I was refering to community colleges as being cheaper. Our community college system here in Dallas is very inexpensive. Typically less than $200 per class + books and class fees I went to Stephen F Austin here in Texas and it's considered a smaller college but still a major one....They did make money by forcing me to live in a dorm and required that I pay for the cafeteria. Then books that were $1oo or more (in 1990) + class fees + parking permit,..You had to apply for an exemption to live off campus as a freshman and this place rarely gave them out
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I paid my dept down to about 36k before being stricken and disabled. Banks didn't give a shit, threatened me, still threaten me, and now the feds are threatening to send me to prison....for being disabled and unable to pay. My bankruptcy lawyer says that there is NOTHING that can be done other than to pay it off somehow...'borrow the money' from someone if I can...(HAHAHHAHFUCKINGHAH ) Last time one of the feds made the threat, I told the asshole to send the sheriff and to put me in prison...just have a bed ready for me in the prisons medical ward so I can get medical care I need, better care than I can get now, and I would have less anxiety over having a place to live, food, medical care, as I would be in prison, and those things would be guaranteed... The line was silent for a few moments then he apologized and said they were not aware I was disabled now...BUT they still would need to collect the monies somehow but won't work towards putting me in prison for refusing to pay, I just can't pay and that's different (i.e..they don't want to spend more on me, via medical care, room and board [prison]). He went on to tell me they would just take all my SS/SSI/SSDI payments (when I start to get them) until the loans were paid off... yep, I am expected to live on nothing...and to hell with my survival...as far as DC is concerned, I can crawl over to a gutter and die, just pay off the bankers first...(I'll be happy to pay them in little pieces of lead, at high velocity ...) what a great country this is huh...thought I'd never regret taking an oath to serve and protect for my military term...today, as a patriot, I would/could be charged as a terrorist for defending the Constitution and Bill of Rights instead of aiding the bankers to destroy the country.
sorry about your situation dude. you sound tough though for being able to live through this kind of crap. i respect that!!!!!!
thanks..ya it sucks, but family came to the rescue and at least I have shelter and food. Mom, dad, and grandmother pay for my primary dr visits (50 bucks + rx cost..so I only go for maintanence reasons like refills for base conditions like RA meds and pain killers) but for the specialist and test I have to goto a state hospital (3rd and 4th rate dr's, long waits...9 months to see an RA Dr so far...if it was cancer, I'd be dead by now) anyhow, my medical issues are nothing compared to the suffering of the masses of students and graduates burdened into poverty via high dept, low pay jobs as a result of the schools reputation/worth not being acceptable (i.e..the school sells degrees, it doesn't teach shit...and the good employers know it so won't hire those grads leaving them stuck with a huge dept, and no means other then min-wage jobs to survive) Dad said in a moment of rare sarcasm, (paraphrased) 'they have assembly lines and are producing robots that THINK they have an education...' classic stuff
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I was excited because I heard there was a group that was going to be protesting against my University so I went down and talked to the group and they were complete and total fucktards. They had no idea what they were talking about, they just kept blaming the rising tuition costs on the private sector (we go to a public university) I tried to recommend that peter Schiff video but the first time I started explaining how it was the federal governments fault they basically said GTFO so I did. whatever.
everyone is too quick to blame institutions outside of the government like colleges and banks. they dont see the common denominator in the equation as being government intervention, but rather greedy people.
Luckily I was able to figure this out before wasting my GI Bill on something ridiculous like a bachelors in psychology. Instead I'm opting for two associates of applied science. First will be welding and fabrication and the other will probably be electrical in nature, should give me the skills to work anywhere in the world.
See I was told study what you love and you're sure to find a job in that area when you graduate. So I studied political science. Now I'm thinking of just dropping that and spending an extra year to get an economics degree because I've realized what a bad decision it was. Your way ahead of me brother good for you!
I've heavily debated getting a degree in astronomy/physics but ultimately ruled against it. My reasoning was relatively sound I believe. I am not a great mind of our age and my relative late start date (late 20's) means that I have a very slim chance of making any significant contribution to either field. Furthermore I could earn more as a welder/electrician than as an astronomer (baring of course a PHD and teaching at an institute of higher education). Lastly virtually the entire world uses products that are machined or welded, as well as using electricity. Simply put, those jobs aren't going anywhere. Jobs in the astronomy field are fiercely competed for, and while I am intelligent there are people that make me feel like Kelly from Married with Children. Ultimately I decided it would be better to work hard for a couple of years (40 hours a week) as a welder/electrician and then I could scale back to 20 hours a week the rest of my life (I am very frugal, as well as already making a comfortable sum from a certain investment). That extra 20 hours a week I am not working can then be devoted to all my hobbies (reading, writing, astronomy, marijuana). Furthermore I have a fascination with building a recycled aluminum yacht powered by wind turbines and solar panels to travel the world in when I get older (if you don't believe it is possible merely look up "planet solar"), both welding and electrical work would allow me to virtually design and build the boat myself. Economics degrees are excellent, but as more and more people get them competition will become fiercer for the jobs. I'd have to imagine long work hours and high stress as well. I value my time and personal freedoms much more than I value being able to spend vast sums of money.
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If your going to go in debt or pay assloads of money out of pocket, I'd say either study a trade, or learn applicable science/mathematics. At least if there are no jobs, if your good at what you studied, you can simply find a problem within the market ( some form of scarcity) and solve it. People can study what they want, but if your field doesn't qualify as a trade, science, or math, I really have no sympathy.
Bad news is, conditions would have to get as bad as they are in the countries the illegals come from before Americans would start taking those jobs. Americans have gotten stuck up and entitled, wonder how that happened?
This is exactly what I've been tryin to explain to my parents, they still believe that college is like they key to success. I can't even pick a major cuz when I loom through the list its obvious there are no jobs for them. I was gonna quit and do some kind of trade thing like welding or cnc programming but my parents wont let me. What the fuck right? I'm 20 years old and my parents wont let me. They're really forcing me to go cuz they're paying for all of it and if I quit they gonna kick me out and I will be fucked for sure.
college wasnt for everyone... just like... owning a home wasnt for everyone... WRONG it is that the systems to get such needs are FUCKED UP. shelter and all forms of education - ought to be right. -not privileged and monetarily based needs.