The BLOWBACK Syndrome - Official thread on knowledge..you aren't supposed to know.

tflga · Aug 3, 2012

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5SoE9vBc6I]The BLOWBACK SYNDROME: Oil Wars and Overreach - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldgbOxDX6DE]Is Ron Paul serious? Blowback in 1979 from a 1953 coup? - YouTube[/ame]

Chalmers Johnson, author of Blowback, Sorrows of Empire and Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic , talks about the U.S. 'military-petroleum complex,' the overextension of the American military, nuclear proliferation, and the decline of Washington's credibility abroad.
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Blowback - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Blowback is the espionage term for unintended consequences of a covert operation that are suffered by the civil population of the aggressor government. To the civilians suffering the blowback of covert operations, the effect typically manifests itself as â€œrandomâ€ acts of political violence without a discernible, direct cause; because the public-in whose name the intelligence agency acted-are ignorant of the effected secret attacks that provoked revenge (counter-attack) against them.[1] Specifically, blowback denotes the resultant, violent consequences-reported as news fact, by domestic and international mass communications media, when the actor intelligence agency hides its responsibility via media manipulation. Generally, blowback loosely denotes every consequence of every aspect of a secret attack operation, thus, it is synonymous with consequence-the attacked victims' revenge against the civil populace of the aggressor country, because the responsible politico-military leaders are invulnerable.
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=292r5W-nSVU]Where does Crack Cocaine come from? This former LAPD officer knows... - YouTube[/ame]

CIA and Contras cocaine trafficking in the US - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

xmaspoo · Aug 21, 2012

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-W_kAfRLlQ]Pakistan After Bin Laden - YouTube[/ame]

ArtilleryShell4 · Aug 21, 2012

Speaking of Ruppert i reccomend anyone new to these subjects looking to learn up on them in a proffesional manner watch Collapse by Michael Ruppert

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7WLCEUi7vk]Collapse by Michael Ruppert - YouTube[/ame]

If you dont have much time i reccomend skipping to 6:00 for talk about oil and how it controls everything.

trixman22 · Aug 21, 2012

ArtilleryShell4 said:

Speaking of Ruppert i reccomend anyone new to these subjects looking to learn up on them in a proffesional manner watch Collapse by Michael Ruppert

Collapse by Michael Ruppert - YouTube

If you dont have much time i reccomend skipping to 6:00 for talk about oil and how it controls everything.
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After watching collapse I was shitting bricks for a month or two trying to figure out how to not go down the hole of a life without plastics. Then I realized the end of fossile fuels is going to be a beautiful thing. To my research the only thing that comes close to fossil fuels would be HEMP! Everything you make from oil you can make from hemp so there is no worry. It will shake shit up for a while but eventually people will have to come to terms that hemp is the best replacement. I know he talks about ethanol in the film but I don't believe he dove into hemp and ethanol.

trixman22 · Aug 21, 2012

Sorry off topic post. Back to the blow back. This stuff counts right?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib4ZNRTlBSk]The US armed Iraq with bio and chemical weapons - YouTube[/ame]

phyer · Aug 21, 2012

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY2DKzastu8]Wes Clark - America's Foreign Policy "Coup" - YouTube[/ame]

tflga · Aug 21, 2012

Great appreciation guys. Lets do it up in this thread. much needed info here.

tflga · Aug 22, 2012

can you say, blowback!?!

phyer · Aug 22, 2012

Not a video but definitely some important material right here.

Page 131.
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11696.pdf

Good thread idea btw. Its good to have a singular place to open peoples minds to the corruption of governments.

Noxnoctum · Aug 22, 2012

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hjQOMlpH9A]Antiwar Radio 01/10/2007: Scott Horton Interviews William Lind - YouTube[/ame]

It's interesting to note that William Lind is considered by many as basically a modern Clausewitz in terms of defining modern combat doctrine. And here is talking about how disastrous our foreign policy is.

A good article by him:

Parting Thoughts, for Now by William S. Lind -- Antiwar.com

tflga · Aug 22, 2012

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQHeo-CMQyc]The Bases Are Loaded: US Permanent Military Presence in Iraq - YouTube[/ame]

TheDankery · Aug 22, 2012

How about the US-backed death squads in El Salavdor?

Like the Atlacatl Battalion, who we trained in "counterinsurgency tactics"?

Notorious Salvadoran Battalion Is Disbanded : Military: U.S.-trained Atlacatl unit was famed for battle prowess but was also implicated in atrocities.

December 09, 1992|TRACY WILKINSON | TIMES STAFF WRITER \t

SITIO DEL NINO, El Salvador — President Alfredo Cristiani on Tuesday disbanded the largest and oldest of El Salvador's elite U.S.-trained counterinsurgency battalions, a unit that came to symbolize both the most aggressive in fighting and the worst in atrocities.

With air force bombers streaking the sky, the Atlacatl Battalion was dissolved in a somber military ceremony as part of United Nations-mediated peace accords that ended 12 years of civil war.

"You served a transcendental mission in the armed conflict," Cristiani told about 600 Atlacatl infantrymen who stood at rigid attention in a soccer field at the Atlacatl headquarters 20 miles northeast of the capital. "You fought with mysticism, discipline, courage and valor. . . . You will always be remembered in the hearts of the Salvadoran people as heroes."

The soldiers, wearing trademark red berets, put down their M-16 rifles as green, red and yellow smoke from army signaling devices filled the air. The unit's black flag, bearing a skull and serpent, fluttered in the breeze.

The Atlacatl Battalion, formed in 1981 as El Salvador's first rapid-response unit dedicated to fighting leftist guerrillas, was intended as an example of how American money and training could transform the Salvadoran army into a professional fighting force. With many of its officers trained at Ft. Bragg, N.C., the battalion specialized in counterinsurgency tactics.

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They were trained at the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School.

The Battalion was behind the killing of hundreds of people in the 1981 El Mozote Massacre.

December 10

On the afternoon of December 10, 1981, units of the Salvadoran army's Atlacatl Battalion (named after an indigenous fighter who fought the Spanish in the 16th century) arrived at the remote village of El Mozote after a clash with guerrillas in the vicinity.[5] The Atlacatl was a "Rapid Deployment Infantry Battalion" specially trained for counter-insurgency warfare. It was the first unit of its kind in the Salvadoran armed forces and was trained by United States military advisors. Its mission, OperaciÃ³n Rescate ("Operation Rescue"), was to eliminate the rebel presence in a small region of northern MorazÃ¡n where the FMLN had a camp and a training center.

El Mozote consisted of about twenty houses situated on open ground around a square. Facing onto the square was a church and, behind it, a small building known as "the convent", used by the priest to change into his vestments when he came to the village to celebrate mass. Near the village was a small schoolhouse.

Upon arrival, the soldiers found not only the residents of the village but also campesinos who had sought refuge from the surrounding area. The soldiers ordered everyone out of their houses and into the square. They made them lie face down, searched them, and questioned them about the guerrillas. They then ordered the villagers to lock themselves in their houses until the next day, warning that anyone coming out would be shot.[5] The soldiers remained in the village during the night.

December 11 and 12

Early the next morning, the soldiers reassembled the entire village in the square. They separated the men from the women and children and locked them in separate groups in the church, the convent, and various houses.[6]

During the morning, they proceeded to interrogate, torture, and execute the men in several locations.[7] Around noon, they began taking the women and older girls in groups, separating them from their children and machine gunning them after raping them.[8] Girls as young as 10 were raped, with soldiers reportedly heard bragging how they especially liked the twelve year old girls[9] Finally, they killed the children at first by slitting their throats then by hanging them from trees, with one child as young as two years old.[10] After killing the entire population, the soldiers set fire to the buildings.

The soldiers remained in El Mozote that night but the next day went to the village of Los Toriles, some 2 km away and carried out a further massacre. Men, women and children were taken from their homes, lined up, robbed and shot and their homes then set ablaze.[11]
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As Elliston writes,

In December 1981, the inhabitants of a small Salvadoran hamlet were systematically exterminated by the Atacatl Battalion, a U.S.-trained counterinsurgency force. The Reagan administration, determined to preserve U.S. support for El Salvador's war against leftist guerrillas, downplayed reports of this massacre. The White House ignored and deflected reports that hundreds of unarmed women, children and men were shot, hung or beheaded.
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We instructed death squads to use some truly horrific torture methods against the people of El Salvador.

Also, there was that time when the World Court ruled that the US was guilty of committing terrorism in the case of
Nicaragua v. United States.

Or our full support for the deaths of over 100,000 people during the time of genocide in East Timor.

tflga · Aug 22, 2012

xmaspoo said:

Pakistan After Bin Laden - YouTube
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Just saying, around 8:00, those pakistani girls are fucking beautiful. Oh my GAW. Natural middle eastern beauty..and beautiful english.

tflga · Jan 31, 2013

January 28, 2013

US Action in Mali is Another Undeclared War

President Obama last week began his second term by promising that â€œa decade of war is now ending.â€ As he spoke, the US military was rapidly working its way into another war, this time in the impoverished African country of Mali. As far as we know, the US is only providing transport and intelligence assistance to France, which initiated the intervention then immediately called Washington for back-up and funding. However, even if US involvement is limited, and, as Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said, US boots on the ground are not being considered â€œat this time,â€ this clearly is developing into another war. As usual, the mission is creeping.

Within the first week of French military action in Mali, the promise that it would be a quick operation to put down an Islamic rebel advance toward the capitol was broken. France announced that it would be forced to send in thousands of troops and would need to remain far longer than the few weeks it initially claimed would be necessary.

Media questions as to whether the US has Special Operations forces, drones, or CIA paramilitary units active in Mali are unanswered by the Administration. Congress has asked few questions and demanded few answers from the president. As usual, it was not even consulted. But where does the president get the authority to become a co-combatant in French operations in Mali, even if US troops are not yet overtly involved in the attack?

How did we get to Mali? Blowback and unintended consequences played key roles. When the president decided to use the US military to attack Libya in 2011, Congress was not consulted. The president claimed that UN and NATO authority for the use of US military force were sufficient and even superior to any kind of Congressional declaration. Congress once again relinquished its authority, but also its oversight power, by remaining silent. That meant the difficult questions such as why is the action necessary, what would it entail, and what kind of unintended consequences might we see if the operation does not go exactly as planned, were neither asked nor answered.

When Gaddafi was overthrown in Libya, many fighters from Mali who had lived in Libya and been trained by Gaddafi's military returned to their home country with sophisticated weapons and a new determination to continue their fight for independence for northern Mali. Thus the France-initiated action against Libya in 2011 led to new violence and instability in Mali that France decided it must also address. Shortly after the French attack on Mali, rebels in Algeria attacked a BP gas facility in retaliation for their government's decision to allow foreign military to fly over Algerian territory en route to Mali. Thus the action in Mali to solve the crisis created by the prior action in Libya is turning into a new crisis in Algeria. This is the danger of interventionism and, as we saw in Vietnam more than four decades ago, it threatens to drag the US further into the conflict. And Congress is AWOL.

There is a reason why the framers of our Constitution placed the authority to declare war strictly with the Legislative Branch of government. They knew well that kings were all too willing to go to war without the consent of those who would do the killing and dying -- and funding. By placing that authority in Congress, the people's branch of government, they intended to blunt the executive branch's enthusiasm toward overseas adventurism. The consequences of this steady erosion of our system toward the unitary executive are dire.
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Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk

thought i would revive this

hundredgrand · Feb 6, 2013

If this is all true then 9/11 is a sham and it's all our fault

yurigadaisukida · Feb 6, 2013

hundredgrand;17144980 said:

If this is all true then 9/11 is a sham and it's all our fault
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911 was an inside job. Its a proven fact.

Statists try really hard to refute the doccumentary lose change 911 but they can't because the evidence is overwhelming

Lenny. · Feb 6, 2013

yurigadaisukida said:

911 was an inside job. Its a proven fact.

Statists try really hard to refute the doccumentary lose change 911 but they can't because the evidence is overwhelming
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It's not really 'statist' to be skeptical of the loose change documentary.

You're just throwing statist out there like it's a filler word.

hoboleader · Feb 6, 2013

everyones to busy sucking satans dick to do anything about it.

lightupbong · Feb 6, 2013

This thread is great! I'm learning a lot thanks guys : )

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yurigadaisukida · Feb 6, 2013

lenny88;17145756 said:

It's not really 'statist' to be skeptical of the loose change documentary.

You're just throwing statist out there like it's a filler word.
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Your right. I appologize

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