The ATF has been granted the powers of civil asset forfieture by AG Holder and the Obama administration. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-08-27/pdf/2012-20923.pdf GHEI: ATF's latest gun grab - Washington Times Nothing I've read convinces me this could not be used against recreational or medical cannabis users. You don't even have to be charged with any crimes. Very scary stuff.
Not to get too off topic but this asset forfeiture business is booming at all levels of law enforcement. ISIL -- Civil Asset Forfeiture: The Looting of America One more note: Fuck the ATF.
Don't need one. That's not how politics works. Might makes right, and they got more might than you do.
"After considering the effectiveness of this delegation over the course of the one- year period, the Attorney General may elect to make the delegation of authority to the ATF permanent in a subsequent rulemaking." Any bets on wether he gives them permanent authority after the year is up?
I'd pretty much be willing to bet on the exact date. The day after Obombya wins his second term. That way he's "unrestrained" as he so elequently put it in that hot mic moment. I've gotta say, if murdering American Citizens overseas without due trial and passing bill such as the NDAA indefinite detention act are a "restrained" Obombya....
@Sam_Spade Does your opinion include people calling themselves 'military' and 'police'? Or are they not Americans in your mind? Go play in internet traffic, Sam_Spade.
"the last things americans need are guns" lol Ever see a pig on the way to work? I saw one the other day, in a shitty ford fiesta. puttering along, I thought, ah, that police officer is going to work, get in his nice 15grand+ police cruiser (which in comparison is a racecar compared to his piece of shit fiesta), strap on his baton, mace, handgun....turns into authority man - are you saying cops shouldn't have guns too? Prior to this guy stepping into his cruiser, he's a regular avg joe with a yellow ford fiesta.
Having all the guns off the street will be good. Fuck guns all they are meant to do is to kill people
[quote name='"Alecskates12"']Having all the guns off the street will be good. Fuck guns all they are meant to do is to kill people[/quote] Complete and utter failure of a post... Grow up because you dont agree doesnt mean its a failure. why dont you worry about yourself and let others have thier own opinion. _YODA
My bad, I interpreted "Go play in internet traffic, Sam_Spade" as hostile. If it's a joke, I don't get it. Also I'm curious how you're speaking for others.
How is it trolling to have an opinion? I don't support reckless gun ownership. America has demonstrated it can't use them properly for over 200 years now. The jingoist colonialism, civil war, and anomalously high criminal gun violence and institutional abuses of power speaks for itself. You people are borderline fascists with your groupthink. Part of the same culture of violence if you ask me. The irony is not lost. You're all coming full circle now, and deservedly so. Large sweeping insults will not be tolerated.. Voice your opinion without them, Or dont post _YODA
The new rules don't say anything about people being reckless Sam. It basically says we can take the guns of any pot smoker we want.