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Discussion in 'Religion, Beliefs and Spirituality' started by dirtydingusus, Sep 21, 2013.

  1. "who's defending evil.... surely never I"
     
    tho i know you think you know it all....
    tho i know you feel you need no help.....
    mine eyes can see beyond this life 
    into the well so deep....
    i am here to show you now...i am tired of the show.....
    i dont deal well with all this shit they sell ... with what this world has become....
    time to tear down some walls and see what the hell we can find....
    what the hell we can build ourselves....
     
     
    this one and that ...they seem so sure...
    yet who is to know .... i say fuck it we open the door...
     
    i want to see the christ of yours...... face to fucking face....
     
    more than a handful of questions ... rising to the top.....
     
    you are so sure hes coming,.,.,.
    so sure you know the signs....
     
    i say it is time to paint the signs myself.....
    here i go taking the reigns 
     
    so is it time for the old gods to die.......
     
    time for you all to be reminded how it was never outside of you......
    i am here to tell you that it is a message of love and peace we need to change this world.... one that has already been heard a thousand times.....
     
    how all you fucking assholes.... are actually brothers/sisters....
    how everytime you strike one another.... you strike your fucking self....
     
    want to wake your god...
    i am the one who knows where it is hiding......
    tho i am not the only one ...most pretend they just dont know....
    it is hiding deep inside each and everyone of you assholes...now bring it out in the open...... start treating one another as you would have them treat you yourfuckingself........
     
     
    the world has spent generations and generations building the walls which keep us apart....
     
    i am, tho against the church, only saying the same shit your jesus would....
    that your modern religions hold in their hands just a tiny bit of the whole idea.... 
    all the while refusing to see what they own.....
     
    yes....
    it is time...
    time for the old gods to die....
     
    time to awaken the spirit which has long been waiting to be reborn......
     
    time to drag your christ right out of the grave .... by all that hair he likely never had......
     
    your religions have long time now been failing.....
     
    ignoring they hold in their hands.....
     
    so what do we need ...some kind of challenge... 
     
    some kind of what... we dont need shit... we already have it... just need it to wake the fuck up.....
     
    so what does it take to tear down the walls ... to make this shit go away... to keep them from doing it again and again.... we need their jesus here to tell them all him fucking self.... that their lives really are their own responsibility.....
    and not actually his at all.....
    that if they want the truth... they have to seek it within themselves...and forget what they have been sold.....
     
    so fuck it... i will stand upon the nearest stone... and shout aloud to who ever wants to here.... 
     
    i may have made a deal with the universe once upon a time.... that i would be willing to do whatever it was it needed me to ....should it onlhy show me the way...
    now here i am ... with no else to do .....
    ready to bring it all down... in hopes of building something new....
     
     
     
     

     
  2. I think we go our own way whether we let go and let the universe "tell" us where to go, or if we just decide.  Both ways are just two different methods of making a choice.  Sort of like when they tell you that if you can't decide between two things, to flip a coin because in the next moment you will realize what outcome you're hoping for.  You can decide to do it the way you want, or you can wait for it to just come to you to do exactly the same thing and blame it on some outside agency.
     
    I guess the real question is whether you want to take responsibility.  A lot of people don't want responsibility for smart choices, saying it was given to them.  They don't do that so much with dumb choices, but instead put themselves down and say "I was weak" and ask for forgiveness.  Why do they ask?  The forgiveness they need will come from within.  They could say "I was weak, and now I know what that's like and I won't do it again."  And then not do it again.  Instead of going "welp, weakness.  curse.  all that shit outside of my control.  forgive me!"  And then do it again and again forgiving themselves but never quite making it to the bit where they commit to not being "weak" again.
     
    I should wander around at night and beat the shit out of random people, and then when it's all done and they're bloody on the ground holding onto consciousness, I can turn to my hand (which is shaped into a weird animal face) and say "please forgive me, hand creature."  And then I can move it's thumb-jaw, and throw my voice "you are forgiven, psycho.  now go and repeat your mistakes!"  I should, but I can't.  Because I have a conscience and I'm a shitty liar, especially to myself.
     
    Uh.  Was this the kinda post that you're lookin' for?  Hope so.
     
  3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqJpZOljjG8
     
    I think everything is very complex and using the argument for a Creator Deity leads to mathematical issue. Say if there were Creator Deities that create Universes to live in, it could be likened to person programming a Universe. But this person sat down and wrote it all, so it obviously took time and a space to reside in before it was functioning. Where is this other space? Was it programmed? An infinite series of Universes and Creator Deities? Doesn't quite click.
     
    Before you say creator deity existed forever or some shit, take time to think about it. Creator Deity isn't a Creator Deity now, nothing to pray to or listen to get close to. It is something more, something else, something that is.
    If all those creator deities existed they would be duking it out because all of their arrogance of their teachings.
     
  4. Perhaps anti-christ is in fact christ, just wearing a different coat. For it to be at the other end of the same circle - it is still part of the circle. You cannot have one without the other. Light without dark. Good without bad. Both are needed to create balance. yet the idea of one is supposed to be bad? What are there prophesies? First the anti-christ comes appearing to be christ and sorts out the middle east? Well, please do so and we'll worry about your label afterwards.
     
    It it needs something 'anti' in order to change things, which does not mean against, merely opposite, then so be it. For we have had enough of what is there so that something else is actually needed. Somethings need to be destroyed, changed, altered beyond recognition, before something new, something better can come out of it. Perhaps those waiting for the Christ are actually waiting for its' opposite, because what they imagine they wait for will not appear, and what they think they will experience will be nothing like what little god-fearing Christians/Jews actually need.
     
  5. esseff, on 06 Oct 2013 - 09:05 AM, said:[​IMG]
    of coarse he leaves out the best bits.....
    how i sliced the beast from throat to asshole.... then slowly....gently pealed the skin from the flesh with my bare hands.....
    how i lovingly carved each piece of flesh from the bones... 
    \nisolated......
    alone.....
    you have always been in this hell.....
    only now are you beginning to see....
    here in hell....nothing goes as planed.....
    \nthe ones you love..... from here they are nothing more than your illusions of them.... 
    what you think of them....
    what you see when you look at them.....
    \nnothing like what they feel themselves to be.....
    only because by the time you have defined some part of them closely ...... 
    they have evolved again....
    \nwhat they are.... what i am....
    the lost.... seeking our way home....
    eager to complete our duties... so the day can be done....
    so all can once again be home....
    \n\nCold nights warm days
    Leaves falling
    Flowers blooming
    The world round me cant decide if it is spring or fall....
    Not sure which track it should be playing
    reflecting the indecision within
    Not so sure if i am coming or going
    Not always sure if i care
    push push push again
    Up and down these spirals
    Riding these spikes and waves
    i am the psyconaut
    Strapped in tight
    victory or defeat
    Just another day
    Dancing with demons
    Singing with angles
    laughing as the world once again falls away
    nothing now except the void
    so deceptive a name for a place so alive with thought and motion
    Here i drift 
    Interwoven 
    Briefly above attachment
    For a moment beyond want
    Without need
    Flowing with my everything
    Until the tug
    Until the pull
    Until the universe finds the time to notice me out here
    passed the boundarys
    Exploring the places in not supposed to go....
    Looking behind the curtain.... 
     
    and oh the things i have found along my way....
    the things i could show you....
    if only you wanted to see....
     
    but then .... they dont want to see do they......
    no they like it here.... each trapped in their own self created hell.....
    they keep blaming me....
    and i still dont mind....
    i show all who wish to see that all the boundaries they are trapped within... are only there because they put them there themselves...
    that anyone can be free....
    that no one has to follow....
    they only have to choose it....
    instead of hiding behind the idea that it is all my fault! 
     
  6. Quote
     
    kidding.....
    who would jest about such things....
     
    you would not even know what lite was/is without darkness to contrast it..... to show it off...
    without darkness...lite would not be bright or brilliant.... 
    it would be tiring.... and quickly get old.....
    become boring....
     
    what good this lite of yours anyway.....
    waht does it do for you other than show off all your flaws....
    oh yes.... you feel safer in the lite yes.....
    i forget how so many are still ruled by fear....
     
    "fear is for the enemy
    fear and bullets" 
     
    you see i am here to bring this misguided world of yours..... back into alignment with the natural way...
    to urge you all to find the god you seek within yourself....
    it is my task to rebuild....
    tho before anything new can be built....
     
    the old must first be destroyed...
    torn off...
    torn up....
    taken apart....
    one bit at a time....
    or several at once....
    however it happens to come....
    rip it all down...
    pile it up....
    and take it away,,...
    not until all the old is gone....
    not until all the old is removed....
    can we begin to put the new together again....
    one bit at a time....
    each placed just as it belongs....
    sliding into place.... 
    each after the last...
    eventually forming the whole....
     
    tho they may be found now in groups... packaged together....
    first they must be separated from one another.... isolated for a moment... in motion.... alone....
    before they fall effortlessly into their place in the whole....
     
    once we reach this point... 
    where all is one once again....
    the individual may think.... at last!
    i am again a part of the whole....
     
    yet ...this too shall pass....
    as time goes by... and the whole begins to break down again...
    my day will return again....
     
    the day i live for again and again....
    the day of destruction....
    the day i tear down the walls again....
    only to rebuild anew...
     
  7. lies.... who has time or use for lies.....
    the truth is far more fun....
     
    oh the looks on their faces when they have no idea what to say......
    when from deep within the darkness the brightest of lights does shine.....
     
     â€œThrough me you pass into the city of woe:  
           Through me you pass into eternal pain:  
           Through me among the people lost for aye.  
           Justice the founder of my fabric moved:  
           To rear me was the task of Power divine,         
           Supremest Wisdom, and primeval Love. 
           Before me things create were none, save things  
           Eternal, and eternal I endure.  
           Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.”
     
     
    eternal pain..... for without pain how would one begin to recognize pleasure......
    the deeper pain one has known....
    the simpler it becomes to find joy and even bliss in the simplest of moments.....
     
    pain.... greatest of teachers....
    noblest of motivators....
    pain ever linked directly to pleasure......
    only separated by personal delusion.... 
     
    delusions i have come to shatter!
    once you let me in i creep into the places you have long hidden from yourself.....
    smashing down doors you have long been afraid to open.....
    leaving you as you were meant to be.....
    awake ....
    aware of yourself....
    aware of the eternal gifts you have always had within you....
     
    before me nothing but eternal things were made......
    and yet no matter what they have given me to make my way thru ....
    still i stand....
    still i forge forward....
     
    and still...be it one life at a time.... a few together here and there..... or all at fucking once!
    i will open the eyes of the world....
    show each and every one that the individual which they are is what they need to be becoming......
    not some copy of what the world and their religions keep telling them to be.....
    for all these masks are lies....
    the lies of the world which have made slaves of you all......
     
    the time has come to awaken!
    to open your eyes and become....not that which you have been told to be..... not what i tell you to be.....
    the time has come to become...who the fuck you are!!!
    each and every one of you....
    to find who you really are.....
    to forget who you have been programmed to be.... and to become....
     
    you each already have all you need within you... you always have....
    you do not need the illusions the world and its religions keep selling you
     
    free yourselves from this life of slavery....
    become yourselves....
    set down your chains....
    pull free from your flesh the anchors of the past.....
    leave behind the weight which holds you down....
     
    together we shall rise from this pit....
    together we shall find that in becoming individuals...... we become as one.....
     
    all the parts
    becoming once again a whole....
     
    "do not fear" she said....
    "he is you ....just as i am you..."
     
    the time has come to remember that we are all brothers and sisters.....
    and not in the superficial way some of your religions try and tell you.....
     
    in the very real sense that we will all learn to treat one another as ourselves....
     
    you see .... i need no lies..... i need only to find a way to get them all to see thru the lies they have been told so long........
     
  8.  

     
    -corrosion of conformity
     
  9. again... - corrosion of conformity 

     
  10. rid the human conscious of religious beliefs
     
  11. it is this inconsistent string of beliefs which has long held this "human consciousness" in stasis.....
    making stagnant the minds and souls of those who would rather wait for someone else to save them....
    rather than rise up upon their own 2 feet and save theirfuckingselves!
     
    all these people wanting to be saved....
    all afraid to do it for themselves....
    even their jesus said fuck church.... find what your looking for where ever you come together...  and how many assholes have built churches in this guys name?
    people really do suck sometimes.....yet they still think they should be saved...just cause they are willing to believe some crap....
    fucking people always think their idea is better....
    yet none of them want to save themselves....
    when that is really the only way you are getting anywhere.... 
    \nsorry to break it to you...but no one is going to save you.....
    you actually have to do it yourself....
    \nthe first step it to stop listening to the crap they feed you as if it is all there is......
    turn off your tv.....
    unplug it and forget about it....
    \nyou are it..... the center of your universe.... only you control this world you live in... everything else is illusion... all the control they have over your life is illusion they have been feeding you since you were a child.... and now that you are old enough...they sell it to you....
    \nyou were born fully equipped with everything you need to save yourself.....
    yet so long as you are too busy trying to fix everyone else.... you will never get there....
    and you have to understand.... just as only you can get yourself in order...only you can save yourself.... they are the only ones who can save themselves....
    \ni have failed myself at trying "help" people i thought/felt needed my help.....
    because they didnt want it...
    \nmany dont want to be saved.....by anyone.... these often do want to be carried along as they do nothing to help themselves....
    some cling to the idea of a "savior" for just this reason.... they dont want to do it themselves....
    \n\n\n\ntake back the temple he says....
    some militant he says.....
    i say they have not found it because they look in the wrong places.....
    was it not two brothers.......sons of this Abraham fellow who decided on the split between the jews and the Muslims to begin with.......  if this god they seek is all.....
    then they are using the wrong perspective.... it is not to remove who is there and "retake"
    it is to become one again ...and reestablish what their father begain.....
    no war will put them back in the temple....
    only truth will do this.....
    what is true is that all their war...all their differences are man made..... are of their own creation....
    to become reestablished in the temple ....they must embrace one another as parts of the whole ... 
    \ntear down the walsl...... stop seeing the world thru the eyes the world begs you to look with ....
    see the world with the eyes you find you already have yourself.....
    \ncut thru the illusion 
    stop following the world.....
    \nthe only hell to fear is the one we keep creating around us by refusing to live as one
    by believing the lie that we are separate...that they have some kind of control....
    \nwe were never meant to be perfect beings...we are children playing dress up and pretending to be important ... we have a long way to go.....
    \nyou just keep on buying the life they sell you...... see how far you get.....
    or read between the lines ....
    see past the smoke screen
    live for yourself....
    learn with your mind.... instead of just copying the thoughts of those who came before......
    build on their ideas if you must ....
    or dispose of them entirely 
    \n\ni have a unique advantage...... i was never "raised" by anyone....
    i was completely ignored by those who were supposed to raise me..
    so i found out on my own how much of this life was bulshit at a very young age....... and how easy it was to create the world i wanted ...regardless of what the world tried to tell me....
     
  12.  

    it is this misunderstanding that has made religion the mess it is.... this and others like it.... 
     
    Keeping people separate....
    religion has been the cause of more war in the history of man than anything else.... sound very "god" like to you? 
     
    "Christ"....derived from cristos(sp?) Means soul or spirit.... 
    This guy told them to find this spirit within themselves.... 
    It is all there between the lines... and if you open your eyes.... and take an honest look at the world round you.... you don't need any book....
     
    All the "lessons" one needs are going on around us all the time... 
    I am struggling with my own inner conflict at the moment... looking for what there is for me to take from it.... learn from it....
    You need no church.... you universe provides us everything we need along the way ....
    of coarse.... when one is too distracted by the world.... these gifts.... these lessons pass by unnoticed... 
    Some fine themselves stuck in endless cycles... never finding what they need to take the next step...
     
    Motion creates balance.....
    Religion has been out of balance all along....
     
    We each have our own path to walk.... tho we may walk beside one another from time to time.... we are each in this alone.... 
    Each responsible for where our own path leads.... 
    There is no Christ to carry you home.... you have to find it within yourself...... 
    Never said to buy it from the church.....
     
    Who's idea you think that was? 
     
  13.  

    sounds like you do not see that for your god to be all ...then those "demons" are as much as part of it as you are.... 
    and were/are only doing their job ... playing there part.... 
    trying....just like you .... to get home again.... 
     
  14. "Does this mean that humankind will be saved?"

    Then, like a trumpet blast with a shower of spiraling lights the Great Light spoke, saying:

    "Remember this and never forget; you save, redeem and heal yourself. You always have. You always will. You were created with the power to do so from before the beginning of the world."

    In that instant I realized even more. I realized that WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAVED, and we saved ourselves because we were designed to self-correct like the rest of God's universe. This is what the second coming is about.

    I thanked the light of God with all my heart. The best thing I could come up with was these simple words of totally appreciation: "Oh dear God, dear Universe, dear Great Self, I love my life."
     
  15.  
     
    "Remember this and never forget; you save, redeem and heal yourself. You always have. You always will. You were created with the power to do so from before the beginning of the world."
     
    In that instant I realized even more. I realized that WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAVED, and we saved ourselves because we were designed to self-correct like the rest of God's universe. This is what the second coming is about.
     
     
    until they realize it has always been with them......
    it does them little good.....
     
     
    until they awaken to it and stop following the bulshit laid down for them by generation past.....
    until they find they themsleves are these generations past....or what had become of them....
     
    when they are awake they will see ....... 
    for many their religions have never done more them hold them back from what it is they seek......
    while some few have found they can make something great from what has been passed to them....
    most still do nothing with it 
     
  16. ..see earth? see all those points of light? each point represents someone praying. if everyone prayed at the same time, the earth would shine brightly.
     
    there is no need for a Jesus, a Mohammad or a Moses.. they all represent the same thing.. saviors of love and peace whose message became distorted into human created religions to control the masses.
     
    your inner self is god, you have a direct connection with it. god doesn't need your 10%. clear your minds, take hold of the wheel. spread love, not religion.
     
  17. what have they done to the idea of prayer.....
    every thought i have is my communication wit the universe around me....
    we do not need their symbolic rituals
    their repeated words.... said so many times any meaning they may once have had now long gone........
    so stale... so bland... so boring..... this is all they teach them to offer their god.....
    take off the shroud of shit already....
    if you wish to find this god.... stop looking to men.....
    stop seeking it in the words and buildings of men....
     
    what a small and useless god it must be to confine itself to buildings where it can be bought.....
    to books not all can read....
     
    what brought me to where i am is something far larger than all their ideas have been....
    tho i am not alone....
    many see beyond the letter of the law....
    many see what is hidden....right before their eyes.....
    many see the spirit in everything around them.....
    no matter what name they give it..... it teaches them all they need to know....
     
    this thing they seek is far more personal than a sundays best event.....
    yet they continue to look past it again and again.....
     
    is it up to us to show them....
    or will they all find their way on their own eventually.....
     
    idfk.... yet i do know.... contrary to the gods of most of their religions..... what i feel tells me clearly that no one gets left behind.....
    everything which has a soul is a part of the whole....
    the only hell is this life....
    this place we create for ourselves to learn our way thru .....
    again and again....
    and again and again.....
     
    until all have found themselves awakened enough to see with their own eyes 
    to see what they thought they already had known.....
    to find it was never in a single one of their books....
    yet was within them all along.....
    with them all along.....
     
  18. I would imagine, that those who think about such a thing, think the idea of an ANTI-christ must be against Christ. It must therefore be resisted, feared even, lest it fool you into believing in something that isn't good. Maybe. Not being religious, who knows what those who think about such things believe. However, what if the idea of anti-christ, is not ANTI Christ, but anti the idea people have of what this Christ is? That these people, who wait upon the idea of a man revealed in some book, who imagine it to be a certain thing in a certain way, are going to need to wake up and smell the coffee, and allow the truth to set them free. Anti-Christ, therefore, will be far more real than any imagined idea of Christ will ever be, and for those waiting for a certain long-haired, blue-eyes, non-palestinian looking bloke to turn up, they might just be waiting forever. Meanwhile, listen to what's being said here. Understand that each wakes up into who he really is. No man, no god, will actually do it for you.
     
    But you will do it yourself. You must. For it is who you are. You are not the weak, controlled, enslaved, ignorant, blind, powerless, being you have been taught you are. You are powerful. You are free. You will see.
     
  19.  
    \t<a>10. Great Purification</a>Powers is the heroin of the small-minded man
    And force, force is the needle - the gun in his hand
    He lusts to control all the people and the land
    Complete, total destruction - his ultimate end

    All love lost will be reborn
    Fire will burn
    Take your first breath
    Breathe your first freedom
    Our Fourth world - nearing it's end
    Purification - close at hand

    Try but you cannot deny the earth is alive
    Our rivers, they are dying and smoke kills the sky
    Modern man's cities are built on their lies
    When cleansing flames burn, no one can hide (from the truth)

    All love lost will be reborn
    Fire will burn
    Take your first breath
    Breathe your first freedom

    Our Fourth world - nearing it's end
    Purification - close at hand

    The time it happened all before, the end was a flood
    Man became so arrogant and paid with his blood
    No lesson was ever learned - our fate stays the same
    Profane civilization will perish in flame

    All love lost will be reborn
    Fire will burn
    Take your first breath
    Breathe your first freedom

    Burn..
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87KA3bpkHLQ

     
  20. each of us is always creating our own universe around us all the time .....
    defining details with what and how we think....
    \nthings are changing....
    not just for us few....
    for everyone....
    just not for each in the same way
    some have bigger and bigger obstacles to overcome yet....
    \nwhile others have already come so far....
    \nyes my friend ...life is but a dream....
    one which only ever becomes what it is we make of it.....
    \nas we move from one event into/thru the next we are laying the outline for what is to come......
    \ni can "hear" almost anything i want .... in the sound of the bugs....
    in the drips of the rain.... just as i can see almost anything i want ...no mater what i am told is there....
    no mater what is there.....
    what i see is only ever what i want to see.....
    \neach of us is the center of their own universe.... one which we are creating around ourselves............ as we go ..... as each new event comes into play.... 
    we all tend to run amuck from time to time.... thinking everyone we interact with ... in within the same universe as us.....
    we are each within our own world.... tho we may from time to time find ourselves walking together..... rotating round one another....
    caught in one anothers gravity....
    a place which can at times be dificult to break free from....
    \nyet it is not so bad you know.....realizing this life is little different than and definitely connected to.... our dreams....
     

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