The 70s

I really like SOAD... one of the bands I grew up with. Lots of their good songs came out in my high school days, Chop Suey, and Toxicity

I think the problem is that artists who do speak their mind and protest the government have now been forced to the underground scene. Sadly, the maintstream stuff you hear today is, needless to say, horrible.

What needs to happen is the mainstream needs to start not being shitty anymore.


This is probably my all time favorite protest song from the 70s

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZCyOWLrRTE]Black Sabbath War Pigs - YouTube[/ame]

 

Why would you want to protest governement? I thought you loved government? Or are you just unhappy with the present tyrants, and would like to replace them with "better" tyrants?

 

Well I think he means protesting the people in government, and the actions of the government.

 

I think both the 60's AND 70's could fit into the category. Since the dawn of humanity we've pushing for equality and justice and human rights act and now we're at the peak. A lot of the music has to do with defeating the "system" of corporate government banker control that literally controls each and every aspect of your life.

That type of music is now censored and hidden from the masses. Money is the main motive, and they have essentially engineered our society to be apathetic and to turn a blind eye to the corruption.

I think another revolution is in the making though, and it will topple both the counterculture of the 60's and 70's, because the younger generations are just so sick and tired of the way things are, just like the 60's/70's kids...

 

Jimi*

 

Ok then, he's just not comfortable with the current tyrants.

" protesting . . . the actions of the government."

Governments exist to coerce, plunder, destroy, and kill. That's good that he's opposed to those things -- so am I. But a new set of tyrants isn't going to change those things that government thrives on.

 

The Vietnam war was very different then the wars we are fighting today.

Like, the draft.

Not to say our wars aren't bullshit, but I would love to see how the 18 to 20-somethings would react to a draft. The 1960-70's generation wins when it comes to living with bullshit wars.

Drugs, alcohol and intoxicants have always been an issue. It really wasn't any more widespread or condoned in the 70's.

The prohibition era wins when it comes to drugs. Our generation- right now- gets a very close second. The 1970's were just another decade of kids who liked to get fucked up- like every one that pre- and proceded it.

Look at the music that topped the billboards in the 1970's. Seriously, look at any week, from any year, during the entire decade- it is a LOT of shit. Music that will make you want to cry, it is that bad.

The 90's wins for music... not that it's subjective, or anything.

 

Every decade has music that is shit. We just remember the good stuff, and for the 70s a lot of the good stuff was protest songs.

 

You said a mouthful there.

There's nothing like the possibility of involuntary servitude to focus the mind. I managed to escape it, but it hung over my head for several years.

 

I wonder if the government is afraid of a draft for that very reason.

It probably helps that they have an endless line of lost souls who will sign up willingly.

 

History definitly repeats itself.

 

[quote name='"LSYouTiger"']This moment in US history was HUGE. Our generation and the 70s generation have a lot in common.

1) Vietnam war and the bullshit wars we fight today.

2) Drugs. Huge issue then, returning issue now.

That is all I can think of, but there is much more to learn from the 70s.

Music. Music was HUGE in the 70s, it still is, but not as good. Nowadays, its all about the corporate world and what sells. Artists dont create music anymore, they follow a script and write lyrics that sells.

In the 70s, you had artists who used music to openly protest government. That is the one thing this era needs: Artists who protest with music. Jimmy Hendrix was a huge and influential critic of the US involvement in Vietnam.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJyQqZdjwr4

We need more of this shit.

We got this:

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGoDEebJ_f4

I'm not a huge fan of System of a down, but this is one of my favorite songs. Not only is it fucking awesome, its political as well.

People don't make music the way the used to, its not about the poetry anymore. Lil Wayne used to be awesome. He is still good, but his music hasn;t been the same. It used to be about what he saw and the struggles in New Orleans, that was good genuine music. Now its about fucking bitches and making money.

Its like this with all artists who make it big.

We need more artists who speak their mind, we need more people in general to speak their mind and not let money talk for them.

WE need a huge culture change if we ever want to succeed[/quote]

Well not bitching but that so called great culture hasn't really amounted to much in terms of progress for our country. Idk who raised today's kids to be a Bunch of whining brats who aren't humble about anything and haven't had to strive for anything, besides the people who were in there teens during the 70s ,

Anyways, there are plenty of political motivated music today, and in the 70s there was a bunch of pop shit music along with all the good shit, nowadays the difference is that FM radio is strictly pop while satellite and the internet are where you find good music. Back then the radio was a much bigger stage for people to become famous, not as much now.

Also werent songs rotated for a much longer time then than now?


And drugs have been problem before and after the 70s, probably worst in the 80s and 30s (or whenever mobs were huge
)in terms of crime

 

Yup, I guarantee that any of the assholes in DC who are in their 50s or better would never vote to re-instate the draft. The last thing they need is tens of thousands of kids in the street, protesting all over again. An "all volunteer army" sounds so much better. They don't like political instability.

So instead of just taking the cannon fodder out of the population, they entice them with all kinds of bennies, education, etc. -- with OUR money of course.

So far it's worked. But considering the fiscal problems, it will come to a halt someday.

 

Speaking of the draft, remember when they were drafting people to go fight the war and they weren't even old enough to vote yet? Those were the days....

 

[quote name='"Fizzly"']
Yup, I guarantee that any of the assholes in DC who are in their 50s or better would never vote to re-instate the draft. The last thing they need is tens of thousands of kids in the street, protesting all over again. An "all volunteer army" sounds so much better. They don't like political instability.

So instead of just taking the cannon fodder out of the population, they entice them with all kinds of bennies, education, etc. -- with OUR money of course.

So far it's worked. But considering the fiscal problems, it will come to a halt someday.[/quote]

Well aren't they dying for YOU?

I think the main reason the draft isn't used is because draft soldiers suck at fighting., just a waste of equipment,

With a volunteer army there fighting for more than themselves, well atleast they say so..

 

Returning issue? Yes, but not by who you think when considering one of the largest opium trades in the world ends up in little prescription pill bottles handed out like candy by your doctor.

Uh, yeah. So now you know why music today sucks ass. The motivation behind it is about some corporations dime, not your own. Artists don't create music anymore because they are all owned by corporations who tell them what to do. And the only mission left is to make money as quickly as possible in that 15 minutes of fame. On the 16th minute, uh, who the fuck are you again? Sorry, you're not on the list.

And artists have been open critics and voiced their political concerns for decades now. But remember what I said about artists being owned these days. Liability can land you in hot water, and you don't have to go back too far to remember the Dixie Chicks opening their mouths, and the reaction of many fans boycotting and burning CDs. Corporations won't stand for that kind of interruption in the revenue stream, so you may not see as much criticism these days, in song or on stage.