Could anyone here give me some good basic information about Valium? How do I go about getting a prescription? I'd like to try it to see what's it's like, Im not really into drugs that get you all hyper and shit, and from what I've read so far Valium mellows you out. Im not sure if I actually need it for real, I had a panic attack once about 2 or 3 years ago but haven't had one since, and like a lot of people here I tend to be kind of anxious and paranoid(but I hardly smoke weed and have gotten some real paranoid trips while smoking weed) a lot.
It is highly addictive, and can be toxic in high doses. Don't use it. Even as an anti anxiety med, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. As for how to go about getting a prescription..... I'm not even going to entertain that. taking meds you aren't entitled to isn't just selfish and irresponsible, it is foolhardy.
Maybe he wants to experiment. ive never done valiume. ive heard its addicting as well, just go into it knowing your just going to try it, and be responsable, and read up on it. like doses, common doses. etc. what not to do, and i think alcohol is one of them. but like Le said, it is kinda irresponsable if you dont know what your doing
Yeah, mixing pills and alcohol is just bad news. I also know that Valium can help a bad trip, I don't know if it's the fact that I hardly smoke weed at all that makes me paranoid. The times that I have gotten high sometimes I really have tripped bad.
If you are already experiencing paranoia, the only sensible thing to do would be to avoid any other potentially psychologically damaging drugs. Like Valium. And anything else used to treat psych problems. Frankly, the fact that, despite the paranoia, you are even thinking about putting more things you don't understand in your body makes me want to stick pins in my eyes. Go and read a nice book, instead.
I think you are preaching to the wrong quire(sp) here dude. This website is devoted to mind altering substances, and in every thread you seem to be putting people down for trying to obtain knowledge about a certain substance that they wish to try. The aim of this site is to inform not to scorn. Go hit the dare website, they would be glad to hear your input im sure.
Erm, no; this is a site for dope smokers, not juveniles that will take anything to get out of their box. Big, big difference. I think you will find, I inform before I scorn; scorning without reason isn't what I do. It stuns me that, even with the information, many either choose to bury their heads in the sand, or assume, 'it won't happen to me'. I'd love to know how many people that post here have OD'ed on the strength of 'advice' they have read here, posted by some spotty oik that gleans all his knowledge from erowid and drunks in the pub. Interesting that you should use the term 'scorn' as opposed to 'discouragement', for example..... that tells me that you probably would sniff rotten cabbages if you thought it'd get you high, too. The reason I add scorn is threefold; 1) I have seen so any talented, intelligent people messed up on things they think they can handle just because they asked a few questions. In real life, btw, not online. I'm older than many that post here, and, like it or not, experience and associated wisdom comes with age. 2) It is sad and irritating in the extreme that the taxpayer should spend God only knows how much putting people through school etc just so they can waste their time and our money, naively taking God knows what because they either can't be arsed, or lack the strength of character to pull away from peer pressure to get a proper hobby, and then in a few short years after that, the taxpayers money goes to get the same sillies off the stuff their peers claimed they'd never get hooked on. 3) The amount of misinformation and guesswork on this board about drugs that show nothing but utter naviety, apathy and ignorance indicates to me that most of those posters aren't even old enough to be here. In sort, the only people that lambast my criticisms of this 'wannabe junkie' culture thing are those that appear to be a part of it (when did it become cool to be a waster, anyway?). I also get many lovely PMs and kudos point thingummies from people that agree, and these far outweigh the negative feedback. Oh, and for the record, I'm not a 'dude'. I'm a lady.
Actually besides alcohol I have been straight edge for the past 4 or 5 months so no I would not sniff anything to get high. He did not ask you for your opinion about the perils of drug abuse, his question was simple, tell me about valium. There is warning a person, then there is ridicule and belittlement, you chose the latter. Stop comming off holier than thou and inform the person about responsible use of the substance at hand, I think you will get better results than telling a person not to do something. Heck my parents told me not to do drugs and ive done more than any person should. You cannot protect people from themselves, only inform and hope for the best. You are correct about one thing though, experience and associated wisdom comes with age. I may only be 20 but I have learned one thing, miss information is the leading cause of all the drug related problems I have witnessed in my 8 years of drug interaction.
I'm not here to be anyone's therapist; been there, done that, got the mass-produced, proomotional polo shirt. All my info comes from experience, and is fact, not rumour, conjecture or assumption. I couldn't really care a fig who ODs and who doesn't anymore - I'm no longer paid to care - so I present the information here the way I would in real life, and not in the office. I'm a cynical, acerbic, blunt person; you might find that harsh, but people know where they stand with me. I don't see the point in sugarcoating unpleasant facts, or agreeing with things you don't actually agree with, in order to curry favour with people I will never meet; this just feeds the bullshit that gets posted places like this, and breeds an even greater ignorance of substance abuse, by repeating false statements about it. This is a forum, and as such, people will always get replies they didn't expect, or want, but such is the nature of discussion; not everyone will agree with your opinion....and if misinformation is being disseminated, then that is inevitable. I'd suggest to anyone that is offended by straight talking that they shouldn't ask questions that may have disgreeable answers.
With one such as yourself lurking in the depths, I would venture to say it is not safe to ask any question that does not fit into your view of things. Like I said there is nothing wrong with giving warnings, it's when you start to hold your superior level of intelligence over peoples heads that they might get a tad upset. Whatever though say what you will, it's not like I can change your pessimistic view of the world via internet forum.
Where have I done that, exactly? I haven't. That would make me look a bit of a twat and a snob, and I am neither. All this is because I didn't agree with something, and you did. All of a sudden, you are throwing 'intellectual narcissism' at me. That's a pretty bloody nasty accusation to make. You will notice I have made no accusations or assumptions, and have not felt the need to resort to name-calling and petty sarcasm to get my point aross, depsite apparently being all those adjectives you threw at me. And anyway, when did intelligence become so uncool, and so threatening to some people? Surely, you would rather hear the unbiased truth from someone that is well informed, than a best guess from someone that has no idea? If not, then frankly, I fear for the future...it is the blind leading the blind.
so is anyone gonna say anything about valium or just argue? cmon guys seriously I know a person who really digs them, and i dont know anyone who is addicted. id say give em a try, but first erowid it. that place is decent for learning what your putting into your body, and as Le said, Learn first what you put in yourbody. Erowid it.
i dont know how to go about getting yourself a prescription , but id try em. i take em every now and again and i like the feeling , although with any pill i never take to much on a regular basis because i know there may/WILL be a chance ill become addicted. with weed , smoke the hell out of it , but with pills be more responsible. i think you'll enjoy the high though , im also not one for the hyper high's , i like to be calm & chilled.
i'll say something about valium. i think it's compleatly overrated. i have a 50 pill 5mg box (it's not actually valium, it just has the same active ingredient, diazepam so it's the same). i thought i'd experiment as well and decided to take 10 mg, to start out small. i couldn't notice a thing. i just fell asleep afterwards very deeply. i've tried a bith higher doses (though never mixed with alcohol) and only noticed being extremly slow and falling asleep with much ease. i haven't used any more of them, i can't understand what all the hype is about. i'd invest in something else, anything.
Yeah smoking weed with Valium can MELLOW you the fucc out, where you just don't care to say anything or move anywhere... You're just stucc, its a fun feeling.... I enjoy it!
ive never done valium but i got a friend who loves to blow that shit to the dome. he'll blow like 5 or 10 mg and be fucking set all day. he said it just mellows you out and you love everything lol. i guess it lasts quite a while too. ive got some but haven't taken any. i dunno if im gonna blow them or just take it, but when i do ill report back here. sry u couldn't get much info bewb, id say get as much info as you can from erowid and the only way to find out if u like the effects yourself is to try it out. id say ur best bet is to get it from someone who already has a prescription, but if u really think u have a panic problem or just feel like lying straight up to ur doctor go ahead, doctors are overly willing to give out meds cause that shits pressed upon them from all the drug companies. thats why i dont appreciate modern medicine so much. but yea research and experimentation id say. erowids a good place to look. good luck
No idea how to get a prescription. Valium is a really mellow drug though. It was sort of the drug equivalent of your girlfriend giving you a hug and telling you everything is gonna be ok, haha. Just makes everything feel good and then you pass out.
haha jhoppa, yea maybe i was thinking of morphine when i posted earlier but i took some valium, duno what the pill is either 5 or 10 mg and i just feel mellow and... yea mellow describes it pretty well. just like everythings ok and just feels right. haha i feel good but not what i expected. next time im def gonna take more and with some bud. that'll be one chill high