Tea Party Rally Cry !!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by prez420, May 25, 2010.

  1. #21 Judgement, May 27, 2010
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    and? :confused:

    Really didn't need a synopsis on the effects of Liberal Practices on inner city areas. If you get a chance watch the movie Lean On Me, you will get both a glimpse at my neighborhood, and a glimpse at the effect a community leader can have on a community.

    I'll be the first to agree something has to be changed in the poorer areas of this country, but I believe community leaders and education can do so much more to uplift a young person's mind than some form of Politricks that has been here all the while.
     
  2. I think that we're all being hoodwinked by the liberal promise of progress through wealth redistribution and planned economies.

    It seems your saying to blame liberalism and support a limited government is harmful to the black community and indicates self loathing, which I don't really understand.
     
  3. One question, is your neighborhood still a ghetto? At what point do you realize these left wing economic polices are not helping?

    I have lots of personal opinions on this subject, but I'll keep them to myself for the time being. :)
     

  4. I must have missed out on all that empowerment during 2000 - 2008. I guess I was in the military most of that time but from what I've been told that definitely didn't happen.
     

  5. Lol if not for those left wing policies I wouldn't have eaten half the time growing up.
     
  6. Can you see my signature? Bush doubled the size of government and expanded entitlement programs. I think this confusion over terminology causes a lot of our problems.

    Conversely, if not for those left wing policies you would have had a much easier time finding food, that's my argument. We're not getting our money's worth with this super-centralized monster state.
     
  7. I doubt that.

    Most people don't consider Bush a conservative. Especially after TARP.
     

  8. Totally agree with you on both.



    My best friend is at George Mason working on his PhD in Econ and every time he's home and we go drinking we're asked to leave because the bar is closing and we're still going over politics. Totally understand what you mean by this, don't completely agree that the free market is a greater good at this point.

    But I'm definitely getting my money's worth at this point. I'd be curious to know how little I pay in taxes for all this infrastructure and support that I've received to this point. Maybe the rich don't get their money's worth but I could care less about them.
     
  9. That's where you're wrong, it's the middle class that don't get their money's worth. The rich benefit from all the anti-competitive legislation and subsidies they lobby congress for, while the poor remain poor through inflation and various moral hazards.

    Every time the Fed drives a business cycle the middle class shrinks and the rich get richer.
     
  10. nonono, not at all. The self hate comments I made had absolutely nothing to do with his Political choices, but rather his explanation of why he is who he is, he has a very poor view of Blacks and even his family which upsets. I probably shouldn't have even brought up liberal or conservative.
     
  11. Oh well I don't know anything about the guy so... yea :smoking:
     

  12. Alright, but correct me if I am wrong. It's the conservatives in Congress that support most of the corporate welfare programs thats stomp out competition.
     
  13. Yea, you're not wrong. Everyone in congress has special interests backing them because we've given them so much of our purchasing power. If Congress were limited by the Constitution there wouldn't be nearly as much lobbying and corruption.

    Ever heard the term RINO? Republican In Name Only. The corrupt politician's main goal is to get reelected, and appealing to the corporate establishment is the best way to do that. Take away the incentives they offer and they're public servants again.
     
  14. Def on board with that.
     
  15. #35 Judgement, May 27, 2010
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    I wish this was a simple yes or no answer..

    Yes, but you cannot expect drastic change over night. Joe Clark in the short time that he was allowed to effect change before the establishment came for his head and he moved on, he touched the lives of many youth Many of the people who were at Eastside High during that short year went on with their heads held high and made something of themselves.

    Now nearly 3 decades later our "Ghetto" has only a handful of murders a year apposed to several a day. The climate has become unwelcoming to gang members who have moved out to other cities. A small art scene has moved in, the shut down mills are being remodeled into apartment buildings and charter schools, and re beautification efforts have been underway for some time now, despite the welfare systems, all forms of Government's meddling and their drug laws dragging some efforts right back down to the ground.

    Even if you see my posts as "utterly useless" Dronetek, don't get it twisted.. I do not support the bipartisan system from either side and I am assuredly not a liberal shitting on your conservative values.(the few interactions I have had with you you completely misunderstand what I am saying or just flat out ignore my question) I support my community and have plans to eventually take part in opening a community/after school center once it becomes financially possible. I feel PROPER Education and Community leadership can do so much more for a young person's mind, future and community as a whole than any political ideology will ever.
     
  16. It's not about change over night it's about changing for the good in reasonable amount of time. Things never seem improve under liberals they only get worst and worst. People get more dependent on the government the quality of life degrades etc... Liberals talk a big game but the only that ever happens is life gets harder and harder. You want me to half way believe the case ure making then show me a example where liberals have raised a community up to be self realiant and free from dependence on the government. The truth is once the liberals have a person in their grip its very hard to get free.
     
  17. #37 Judgement, May 27, 2010
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    Never going to happen since nothing I said has anything to do, at all, with anything good ever coming out of liberalism..

    edit:: or any ism

    edit2:: and I did not imply an expectation of immediate change
     
  18. #38 prez420, May 29, 2010
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    Well through this thread you have made quite a few statements that imply you support socialism/ liberalism. Even ure mind set about Lloyd Marcus shows u dont exactly disagree with the policies of liberals. I mean really has it not crossed your mind that he might blame progressives/liberals for the problems in the getto ? You should really step back and look at your views because if you really believe nothing good comes from any ism as you say then why is it that your views support socialism. You said Lloyd Marcus is confused but I say he is seeing the world alot more clearly than most people in the getto for the simple fact he understands the only ticket out of the getto is for a man to stand on his own 2 feet and stop looking for someone else to give him something.

    Giving help to the needy is one thing but not giving people incentive to better themselves is what keeps the gettos gettos. Really he is telling people that they can do w/e they want they just have to reach for it. He's right too because you goto the getto everyone wants to be a rapper or sports star but very few people want to be doctors lawyers chiefs etc... Just think about that for a moment to be a rapper u have to rely on someone else to sign you to be a sports star you have to rely on someone else to sign u. Do you see the pattern ? He is telling people blaze your own path dont wait for someone to give you ure big break stop blaming everyone but yourself for your problems. Again I say take a look at yourself because you believe far more in socialism than ure willing to admit to.
     
  19. After witnessing you somehow misconstrue a question I answered as a "case I was making", I can honestly say that this post does not surprise I in the least. It is a little bit confusing of course to try to figure out how far up your ass you had to shove your arm to pull some of this shit out, or even how rap and sports found a way into your post.

    What views of mine exactly spawned this post may I ask? Please do tell how this bizarre post came to be.
     

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