Switching lights for my indoor, need input

Don't consider any blurple lights. Quantum boards are the newest and best technology. Tbone Shuffle can help you - ask him.

 

What he said ^^ I will never buy another bulb or blurple LED again after using QBs

 

I swapped from HID to QB LED's

they are doing great, better then the 400w HPS and MH and using about half the electricity.
they penetrate as good or better then the 400w HID's.!!

they might not penetrate as good as the dbl end 1000, but the horizontal coverage is so much better,
a 4x4 needs around 600 watts of QB's and they will be spread out over the canopy making more weight.!
this would be 60% of the elec. and heat from lights and a reduction in a/c cooling (not 40% but reduced)

 

I also grow in a 4x4.

If you want to just click the order button and don't want to DIY I would go with either one of these. This 600h fixture puts out 19% more light then a single end 1000 watt hps so you probably will run it dimmed. I think 500-550 watt level is about optimal.
Horticulture Lighting Group HLG-600H Quantum Board LED Kit V2

Or two of these.
Horticulture Lighting Group 260 Watt Quantum Board LED Kit V2

Another option if you're handy with some tools would be 4 of these boards. These new qb96 boards are brand new. 4 of them with 650-700 watts is said to outperform an 1100 watt DE hps.
QB96 Elite V2 Engine

and one of these drivers.
https://www.arrow.com/en/products/hlg-480h-54a/mean-well-enterprises

Or this driver if you want up to 620 watts potential.
https://www.arrow.com/en/products/hlg-600h-54b/mean-well-enterprises

Both will need parallel wiring. The 480h has a built in dimmer. The 600h is a b series ready to solder on a remote dimmer. I couldn't find an A series with built in dimmers in stock.

You could also use two HLG-320h-54a's for 4 boards. It's way more power then needed in a 4x4 though. Almost 700 watts at the wall.

Realize that none of these has to be ran at full power either and it's more efficient for the driver and led to run them dimmed. The driver runs cooler at lower then max output.

 

It really only takes about 480-550 watts to fill a 4x4 with those boards. There's cheaper DIY products like the qb120's and qb132's coming around in the next few weeks. With those you could outfit the whole 4x4 for the $400 range.

 

Just so you know many of the people you're talking to have already owned quite a few other brands of leds. I've ran mars, platinum, california lightworks, and HLG. We're speaking from experience after already buying some of those really expensive burple panels.

 

I've grown under hid and Blackdog and qb. That light you have is one of the best. Maybe no longer the best if starting from scratch, but if you have no heat or electricity cost issues I would not swap it out for a qb board. You have virtually no degradation concern because you can replace a bulb every x amount of hours. Hid runs hot but is easily cooled. The qb boards also run hot and need to be cooled. The whole deal with qb is more light for less watts. But 1000w double ended is aleardy top of the line as far as pot quality. I could strongly suggest a 4000k qb board for vegging. It will beat the heck out of any mh. And to be fair, the 3000k is IMO better than any hps in every way. But with your light you are starting from a very high bar and I would not switch unless there is a specific reason you don't like hid.

 

I guess I’ll give my two cents. I run 12 qb120’s in my 4x4 and two of the qb96elite v2 engines in my 2x4.



That said, you have a great flowering light and as @Talkative said, as long as you can exhaust the heat, no need to change. Have you tried any hydro methods like DWC, Hempy, or drain to waste coco? These methods used with your lighting will grow a better crop than soil

 

I would say to save about 400 watts in the flower area along with not having to buy a new bulb 1-2 times a year. Depending on what your electricity cost are saving 400-450 watts is pretty significant. Quality HPS bulbs aren't that cheap. The degradation in leds is neglectable. It's hardly noticeable in 5 years and by then you will have upgraded since more efficient diodes come out all the time that generally run off of the same power supplies. I don't think it's too hard to manage the heat output of 4 qb288 v2's. Remember they're 8% more efficient then the older 288's and 304's if that's what you're running. When you multiply that efficiency gain by 4 boards the larger v2 fixtures run much cooler then the older ones.

 

FYI, qb120’s are back on amazon in 3000k

 

If they can just hold out till Wednesday


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You know they’ll be gone by then

 

I prefer the qb132 for a flower setup but the 120's aren't bad. You can run 8 of them and it's about 500 watts.
You get much wider distribution of leds then any fixture you can buy but you have to build it yourself.
8 x qb120 boards from amazon is $250

1 meanwell HLG-480h-c2800a to run all 8 boards in series. $129.
https://www.arrow.com/en/products/hlg-480h-c2800a/mean-well-enterprises

After you buy some wire, a wall cord, and some frame material you'll be a little over $400.

 

8 doesn’t quite cut it, the spread is lacking. 12 is a better number for a 4x4 but run them around 200-220 watts per 4 board setup

 

How are you liking those elite 96?

 

Only been up since Monday. I’m running them at 162 watts each and getting about 815 ppfd across the canopy at 16” height. 200,000 lux at 6.5”. Here’s the growth Monday through Friday

 

In stock Halloween it says


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132’s 35k and 120’s 4K staggered is great for veg and flower 8 total 4x4 course I’m running them slightly higher than 200 but perfect IMO for my 4x4


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