Suicidal or Curious of death?

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by TGIF, Mar 24, 2010.

  1. Sure, i have been through tough shit in my life. Bad break ups with women i thought i loved, deaths of close friends, bad shit. I do consider myself a fortunate person though because i live in a 2 story house with a large backyard and 2 pain in the ass (but lovable) dogs.

    Sometimes i do wonder though, what is death? What happens? Does your mind just turn off and its like you never existed?

    I've tried incredible things to find the answer, one of the craziest was learning astral projection. I would project and try to conjure up and entity and ask these questions, but the entity just stares back. Is that a sign?

    I've tried asking beings on salvia what death means but they never answer in reliable meanings. It always says "Your playing a game" which leads me to visions of balls of energy playing games like sims lol.

    If i ended my life and my mind just left, it wouldn't matter anyways right? There might be judgement from people i know, but who cares, im already dead.

    Sorry if this is all kinda depressing but i have always been so curious with death and how it works and WHY it works. Just had to get my thoughts out because i like to talk a lot when i smoke kief bowls, and i dont feel like bothering my buddy because he is already way gone

    peace friends :smoke:
     
  2. I think a bowl is needed for an appropriate response, too bad I'm dry atm. :(
     
  3. Your right that probably only made sense under the influence. Sorry your dry man it happens to everyone lol
     
  4. I am curious about death, but I don't think to much about it. I am ready to face my mortality when the time is right, but I will never force my own mortality, if that makes any sense.
     
  5. Your ready to pass but you wont pass by your own doing. Makes perfect sense to me :smoke:
     
  6. I think like you I like my life and am grateful for it, But I need to know what if anything is on the other side. To bad I don't have the balls to find out. Research into DMT and get some if you can it will open your mind
     
  7. just curious about death. trust me every one has those thoughts.
     
  8. I have these exact same thoughts, everyday. There not suicidal, as i don't yearn to die, but like you am curious of whats next. These thoughts are probably healthy as long as you don't WANT to die.

    I say though, don't end this reality prematurely. Live this world up as much as you can, do whatever you wan't as long as you aren't negatively affect yourself or others. Death will come eventually, and you will find out soon enough :eek:.
     

  9. I kind of want to die, but yet I don't. I guess I want to die because I hate cliff hangers, surprises, suspense. I can't wait to die so I can have that question answered, I mean the suspense is killing me;). <--- joke. I don't want to die because.....I want to live just a little bit longer.
     
  10. i know exactly what you mean



    its like watching a long movie, and you've been tapping your foot waiting for it to end, Just show me the damn ending, the conclusion, wrap it all up so i can move on!

    not that i want to die or anything, but its just so peculiar
     
  11. 8-Circuit Model of Consciousness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Your should read this, especially the 8th circuit. Its basically the separation of mind from body, into an eternal non material world. It can be achieved by meditation techniques, or strong psychedelics. I think you could find some answers by achieving this state of mind.
     
  12. hey, ever heard of the movie the Flatliners? i think you should watch it. [​IMG]
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  13. i love that movie
     
  14. When you die 1 of two things happens. It's like falling asleep, except you don't wake up.

    Remember that exact moment last night where you lost consciencessness? Didn't think so.
    OR

    Your spirit lives on in a seperate world where it awaits to be judged by God.


    There is nothing in life that I fear more than death. Pets, friends, family dying I cannot even comprehend. Both my parents have health problems and I know I am not going to have them for very much longer. I cannot imagine being alone in this world, with not even family to talk to. You only have 1 life. Only 1. You will never be a child again, no matter what you do, you cannot get a second life.


    You have 70, maybe 80 years here on Earth and then you're gone, forever.
     
  15. What if the 70-80 years is like hell though. Always full o conflict and pain. Some joy, but more pain. Maybe when you die you live an eternal dream that resolves every single conflct you had in your life. That would be the shit
     
  16. You need to comprehend the fact that after this life there's nothing. It's like falling asleep, and you don't have another thought ever again. Like I said...do you remember falling asleep last night? Did you remember what it felt like to be asleep? That's what it's like to not exist. Its scary because you go to sleep every night and that feeling of not existing suddenly becomes real.

    But, if God exists and depending on his mortality (Can he die? If he dies, does he join us? ETC ETC) he may be waiting for us or he might be judging us or he might exist and not interact with us at all. The universe is 14 billion years old, so if God is a life form or a being he is long gone by now.

    And 70-80 years on this earth is not hell. Hell is being born in a hut in Africa...where you will be lucky to live to 16.

    I don't think you fully understand the concept of not existing. Think of everything you know. Think of everything the entire human race knows. Now imagine that none of that exists, at all, forever. That is death, and beyond.
     
  17. The truth is... your chance to resolve your conflicts is right now... this life.

    It is within your grasp... your happiness or sadness is your decision. If you choose (or logically are forced to the conclusion ;) ) to realize that you are creating your reality.

    Basically, if you exist in such a state that happiness is impossible, you must come back in a new form in which happiness is possible... question is, what's stopping you from being happy Now?
     
  18. #18 Insurgency, Mar 24, 2010
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    dude im +1 rep for posting that omg that blew my mind

    will some care to share there input or thought? i read that 8-circuit and it absolutely mind fawkd me

    this was on microsoft word, so i could keep things organized, so sorry about text size

    3. The Symbolic (Neuro-Semantic-Dexterity) Circuit (The Rational-Empirical Mind)
    This fits me perfectly with the description. When it says cocaine, could the form of adderall somehow activate this? “Concerned with handling the environment, invention, calculation, prediction, building a “map” of the universe etc” I honestly am going through this right now and have been for several months now.
    4. The Domestic (Socio-Sexual) Circuit (The "Adult" Personality)
    I didnt see anything that activates this, but i feel like i went through this stage during my first year of college, i still go out and enjoy life, but i am content with just smoking a bowl, relaxing, and just enjoying the moment. but is this suppose to come after 3? Or are these just certain levels you can achieve?
    5. The Neurosomatic Circuit (Zen-Yoga Mind-Body-Connexion)
    There is a marked shift from linear visual space to an all-encompassing aesthetic sensory space.” I was a little bit confused by this statement, but just recently (within a month) it feels like i know my consciousness. Lemme explain. When i smoke, i start to feel “trapped” in this body. Another example cuz that want might not have made sense. Sometimes i feel like im looking at the my surrounds above my body rather then through my eyes.
    6. The Neuroelectric (Metaprogramming) Circuit (Psionic Electronic-Interface Mind)
    I say the drugs associated and i finally thought i was done, but the funny thing, I PLAYED COMPUTER GAMES all the time and still once and a blue moon when i return home from college. I have never believed in luck, always a probability.
    7. The Neurogenetic (Morphogenetic) Circuit (Buddha-Monad 'Mind')
    Fuck i might be done, the only thing i can agree on is “Winner Script: Future evolution depends on my decisions now” i have always thought this but the times i have taken LSD was at festivals and i just cant afford to trip during college so i was wondering is there any way to achieve this?
    8. The Psychoatomic (Quantum Non-Local) Circuit (Overmind)
    Anyway to achieve this other than drugs?
     
  19. #19 verbae, Mar 24, 2010
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    After watching Martyrs, I can honestly say it sparked my curiosity about 'the other side', but not death, per se.

    Well, in the movie this young girl is mentality, and physically beaten half to death. From an outside perspective, it's confusing as to why people would want to do something this cruel. But looking at it philosophically, the work that these monsters were doing are congruent with everyone's pre-existing thoughts --is there 'existence' after death?

    These girls are chosen as 'martyrs', in hopes that they can reach 'the other side' complacent to their near death experience. And during this experience, it is said that they feel an immense amount of euphoria, unknown to any human --incomparable to the most powerful high that any drug could produce.

    This in theory, made sense, but only because it somewhat complies with "the choking game".

    I've always questioned; what makes one's life valuable? What are we holding on to? And what if religion didn't instill fear in our hearts (heaven/hell), would we value our lives just as much?

    .../rant
     

  20. Well my friend, what you got there is a theory. No one knows the answer to "what happens when you die." Because no one has died and come back to life.(Not even Jesus, sorry.) See what I am saying? Basically you know no more than the rest of us when it comes to having an answer.

    By all means think what you want, but don't pretend to know the unknown.
     

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