Thanks for the -rep zpyro, really appreciated. I would happily help anyone who needs help or help those who are ready to help themselves. There is nothing more annoying than a new grower coming onto a forum and reading really bad info, like what was post in this thread (especially at a really critical stage of growing). On this thread alone, look at how many members who made the mistake of transplanting their germinated seed upside down. That's listening to people who's probaby never grown a plant before. If members don't know what they are talking about, they shouldn't give out information on that subject! Theres plenty i don't know, but i'd be willing to sit back and learn before i'd stick my oar in. So if i get upset, and challenge bad info, then members like yourself are going to be busy giving me negitive rep.