I am just ranting here, because i am so pissed off about these seed companies. They fucking rake poor stoners like us over the coals for like 5 fucking seeds. I have been buying seeds from the internet for all my grows and i am fucking sick of this shit that i have been putting up with. I have probably ordered about 400$ worth of seeds so far. I have had probly 30% of my seeds actually finish. If you consider the fact that i buy mostly female seeds that is pretty fucking shitty. One time i spent 90 dollars on riserva privada og kush seeds and 0% success rate on those things. Every other time i buy female seeds half of them are fucking hemaphrodites anyways which is even worse then males because they can trick you and rewin your whole crop with seeds without you even noticing. The other problem is.. it seems like these retards mass produce shitty seeds to keep up with demand of their "cannabis cup winning strains" and end up sending white premature seeds that dont even produce good plants when they germinate. And the part that bugs me the most about this is the fact that they charge 50-150 dollars for 5 seeds!!!!! 5 FUCKING SEEDS! You know how easy it is to make 5 seeds? You can get upwards of 1000 seeds from one plant! That means the seeds they make are worth more then the bud.. WTF??? I just want to know why my bagseeds continuously outperform these cannabis cup winning POS seeds. Im not saying i have never got any good plants, but what i am saying is im fucking sick of these jackoff seed companies that think they shit seeds are worth so much fucking money and idiots like us pay for them just because its illegal to sell in the US. Female seeds are a joke, do not ever order female seeds. Also why do my plants only match the description of the seeds like 1/2 the time? These people in the UK who make these seeds are obviously baked out of their minds living it up getting free cash from us Americans. I want my fucking money back....... BTW if you have to order seeds the least shitty company is barneys farm.
haha thats sad man, your typos make me feel like your not an american, where you from? how long have you been growing weed for?? your getting the most horrible luck ever??? and i feel for ya.. but I've had a lot of success with reserva privada in the past and I know others who have to, maybe u should e-mail them? cali connection recently had a seed recall and resent all customers of the violating seedbanks new seeds from a fresh batch
I had issues last year also. Not sure if this is common but it was similar. First order most did not germinate (3/30) nirvana seeds. The second order I got seemed better. Few early noticeably bad genetics and 3 I had to wait till budding. 1 that didn't start budding till EXTREMELY late and I ended up just letting it die. Nothing was very impressive to say the least. Though I did order some this year (autoflowers) because they can't be found as clones. I have heard of others have great success though and little or no troubles. I never had a hermie though. Descriptions tend to be off also. Edit: I'd also like to add I heard about some seed mix ups in the past and hope that this was one of those times.
Pick better breeders and you will do fine. Last germination: 29/30 germinated and sprouted. Google and look at journals, heat/light leaks are a big deal on hermies so it's not always the breeders fault. But some of these mainstream dutch seed companies are a joke and Not worth the time or effort. Have always had great results with ( no order ): Gage Green Riot Seeds TGA Subcool Sweet Seeds Reeferman seeds Next generation seeds Barney Farms Non Fem only: TH DNA/Reserve
those are some nice picks. i have been scoping some of those breeders but, no fems. which of those breeders would you say you get the most consistant female plant ratio with?
stay away from nirvana's fems & autos. A LOT of people have had bad luck with THOSE. fems in particular are going to be a lot more problematic than regulars as they're created by STRESSING female plants & apparently some breeders do it better than others, i've had nearly 100% succes rate with nirvana and i've bought bubblicious, pure power plant, california orange, H19 skunk, stinky white castle from them with great results across the board as well as with my mixed sativas & full moons (although the fussy ass pure sativa full moons are extra fussy and want lots of soil & time to bud. the only trouble i've had with their beans has been recently where i've had trouble with EVERYTHING which tells me that the problem is enviroinmental and my best guess is that it's related to trying to germinate seeds in the cold. that's why people make heating cables which i want to get. if, like me, you're having trouble with EVBERYTHING, either you're buying from a sketchy bait & switch seedbank (no point in switching nirbvanas as they're the cheapest seeds you can get) or you're the one fucking your plants up to put it bluntly. i've had universally great results with: nirvana sativa seeds mandala barney's joey weed serious seeds soma seeds & spice brothers (out of biz) with mutant vancouver island seedbank's burmese beong the only schwag that's pissed me off as one can't get pissed about freebies. i've had 1 $100+ order from doc go missing, but i don't blame him as i've had 5 previous orders that were ine with awesome freebies in some and i've had all 5 of my $18 mekong hazes refuse to pop, but that was when i was having trouble with everything and chalked that up to their being tiny seeds and fussy sativas at that. SOMETHING i did fucked it up i'm sure before you point the finger & blame every bank you've ever ordered from, consider the possibility that you're the one causing the problem. even with what i think is cold stunting, i've still gotten better results from some strains than others that were previously 100% on other orders. stick with trusted breeders AND trusted seedbanks and do yourself a favor, go read the "trusted seedbanks" stickey yesterday. i bet if you just get heating cables and a humidity dome, you'll start seeing much happier plants. seedling as weak and vulnerable, they have to expend their own energy to pop & root. (well, actually water pressure makes them pop) once a plan't rooted though, it can put up with more stress. now take a deep breath, relax, and let us help you work through your grow probs. whatever the problem is, it CAN be fixed and the entire seed industry isn't out to get you although there ARE sketchy breeders out their like DJ shorts and if you get some forum knowledge, you'll learn to stay away from MOST, but not all dutch banks like greenhouse etc. barney is an exception though. his gear is SOLID! his LSD was too stoney for me, but it was a compact, sticky grapey little treat that did offer some psychoactivity & euphoria in the trade. take some time to try and pinpoint the problem, and you'll be swimming in green leaves in no time. i bet a nickel your kids got cold stunted just like mine. cold slows chemical reactions (lifeforms... same thing) down. just try stepping outside in winter naked and try to get a boner. LOL
My problems have only been from online seeds not clones. Various companies with various issues. I think it was a mix up other then the first bad nirvana order of seeds that didn't germ (heard other people had the same problem and others have great results). I hope to see better results this year with the autoflowers though I am not going to expect a prize gem because of the ruderalis.
DON'T get autoflowering seeds from nirvana! those are the ones they fuck up! i think that nirvana works with a few growers and that their auto & fem line is grown by a fuckup. LOL get them from a breeder that specializes in lowryders (i have several healthy freebies from short stuff & kannabia growing right now (had 0% dinafem shark shock freebies once too) or a respected breeder. my barney's farm LSD turned out great. that's why barney is a top 10, top 5 even breeder. if you've been getting nothing but nirvana fems, you've just been beating your head against the wall. if you want the HEALTHIEST plants possible, just grow from seed. when my occasional connection saw my garden, he was amazed at how healthy my gals looked as he has trouble with cuttings and parasites etc. he attributed my garden's vigor to starting from seed. every time you stress ANY lifeform, you're going to weaken it a little. femizing plants is BASED on stressing them. shit, i could have just made thai autos using the full moon gal that turned hermie on me for underwatering her and just MIGHT have some fems in a couple of my other gals as my C99 male was yanked a couple months ago and my grow room misted down, yet shit is still getting pollinated. if you're looking to clone and supercrop, just get a bag or two of regular beans, sex them, revert them back to vegging and start filling your room up with cuttings keeping track of which mother they came from as your best plant will be come your keeper for future grows. it's a lot more work, but you'll get better results and nothing is more importan than the end result, right? i find working with plants to be a nice stress relieving hobby. it sounds silly, but i think on some cosmic level, your gals can "feel the love". sure, you can say it's just superior chemistry & care and that they're getting extra C02 from your breath, but it tell you, the BEST tasting bud i ever had was by a fanatical grower who called his plants his babies and that made his own compost. it just tasted so fresh & clean. i know it was really the sunlight suplimented grow room & 5 gallons of pitch black compost, but i'm calling it love anyways! LOL
Never ordered any nirvana fems and didnt order any autoflowers till this year Like I said I think it was a mix up. I did research on my strains before ordering last year and had bad luck with stuff others had great success. Most of my stuff seemed to be miss labeled and uncharacteristic of what i was suposed to get. The only thing that resembled what I ordered was the Trainwreck but still produced a weak smoke (looked potent but eh). 2 diff afghan strains from 2 diff companies and they both were garbage. Big bud gave different issues. Rocklock... dunno even what to say about that.... Like I said I think it was a mix up because I could concievably believe all the issues I had without a mix up with some experimental breeds. Left me wondering if the Single Seed Center just threw seeds in a bag and labeled them something else. Lets put it this way. It's a good thing I grew 80% clones or I don't know what I would be smoking at the moment. On a side note... I wouldn't dream of buying a autoflower from nirvana as I do my research before making purchases especially of such an important nature.
honestly, i wouldnt mind getting a few bad seeds here and there if they werent such a ripoff. I just hate the prices they all charge is mostly what this rant is about. Seeds should be like 50c a piece. It would be nice to throw 40-50 seeds down wouldnt it?
Agreed. 1 bean, roughly 3 oz. Take five clones, average 3 oz. That could be 1 lb off of one seed. To the OP: Baisc economics goes through supply and demand. Google that.
You should have seen the crap I got the second time. It indeed was not a win. Waste of money but the more important thing that was wasted by trying those seeds is time in the growing season I can't get back and problems that couldn't be forseen until budding started. Terrible experience. Thankfully I live in cali and went with mostly clones. Anyways my plant count could have been used much better. There was only 1 seeded plant was I really happy with and yielded over 3 oz (well over). Rest junk. Hopefully better luck this time.
i agree bro...the way its treated you is just wrong...cant really walk in your shoes cause ive had good luck...but whats your alternative...clones if ya can get em..if not..i dont knowgood breeders..what these blades say...i roll with the same gear..its all research..word of mouth from trusted growers and good luck...and grow skill..good luck bro
MAN! you've had the worst luck then! sorry to hear that. i was going to give you +REP for your trouble, but the scale icon is missing for some reason. except for this recent year, i've had almost 100% success with every bean i've dropped except when they get too old. perhaps there's some bigger issue going on then as only recently have my results skydived, right when i'm getrting serious & budding my gals too, i'm getting in the range of 70% or less viability with different strains from different breeders & banks. perhaps the US is nuking mail & fucking seeds up or something security or anti-beans related. if that's the case, i'm glad i still have some reserve stock left and a shitload & 1/2 of C99 beans from half a dozen ladies with the beans bagged by mother for the top 3 gals in both short & tall phenos. THAT will be the base of my never fucking a grow up again as i can have a surplus of plants to sample while the harvesat plants are never stressed. then i can get into selecting my keeper(s) for cloning, but i'd have to build a lightproof 24h room because there's just nowhere in my apt i can run anything more than a shoplight 24/7. i have nosy tweaker fuck neighbors sleeping right next to my closets. anyone else have neighbors they constantly just want to beat the shit out of until your too tired to keep thunking them up? i tell you, i just chop skunky plants down as soon as they start stankin' because of that shit and i'm still not convinced the fuckers didn't snatch my beans from speedy mcfeely. they do not want to let me catch them fucking with anything in my personal space. i will go where this man has never gone before on their asses.
I've only purchased from a select few stores but have usually gotten duds in my pack. But when I tried to pop my last pack of Gage Green genetics's LA Haze, all of them worked and grew really nicely. Had to scuff them of course (they recommended). Should definitely check out their website if you're looking for nice hybrids with guaranteed germination. Pokernaut, funny that your sig says you love 8 miels high, Gage Green's got a hybrid of that too.
for just $35 or less, mandala's 8 miles high kicks much ass and i've yet to see ANYONE show anything less than love for ANY mandala gear home environment plays a part in results too. like i said,m i think i've been having cold related viability issues this year. as this is the coldest house i've lived in (70 degree avg) i can only see that as the explaination why i've had terrible luck across the board too with viability and have had several starts that actually DO grow get stunted like what could just possibly be the only 8 miles high that survived round 2 when all 5 from the same pack sproted quickly just a couple months before. i AM geting heating cables and a humidity dome. just doming the last batch of beans i dropped in peat pellets seemed to help a little i think another part of it is this fucking west coast nothing but bark fines soil. i hate this shit! it dries out way to quick on the surface while being soaked down below. i only just now started using a moisture meter. back east, i'd just get a $2 bag of hyponext (REAL soil!!!), throw in a couple handfulls each of pearlite and vermiculite, add some peat moss and mix in uncomposted cow shit and get great results every time! i could water just by "feel". if the surface of the soil immediately soaks water, water lightly, if it's dried and takes time to absorb, it's thirsty. are you using bark fines too? i hate the shit myself. i can get it to work now with a soil meter, but i still think my plants are underwatered because the sides of the soil are always dry as a bone. even if the center is literally dripping wet.
Ive had pretty good luck with Nirvana. AK-48 %100 germ rate, all female, all producing well. I ordered white widow and they were crushed, so nirvana sent me free ones without charging me. Ive had the same luck with White Widow as i have with AK-48.
everyone i've seen so far loves white rhino i didn't like white castle myself... skunky indica... exactly the kind of bud everyone calls dank. i WISH they still made H19 skunk! i just finished off my high quality seeds' haze skunk and saw that nirvana's version looked way more sativa, but despite some maybe 1/2 strength remaining skunk 1 stone is nowhere near shabby. if haze skunk's indy phenos are that good, the sativa phenos have to be better! they've pretty much divided into nirvana for indicrap & hybrids and sativa seeds for sativas. they were selling their jock horror x oaxican under a different name through nirvana before moving it to sativa seeds as el dorado (unless that's their pure oaxican). they've also moved their durban there as well & added NL5 to it. that you can even get OK bud from $25 beans would be great, but nirvana has shit you can do indoors that's way better than the nothing but stony beasters on every street corner.
listen ive been using DNA genetics strains for about 4 yrs,the germanation rate has been 99% ive only had 1 problem and that was not ther fault,i bought 13 reg,seeds and only one was female,,phoned them up and they replaced them form,,,now thats what i call customer sevice..