Stop Online Privacy Act (SOPA)

Discussion in 'Politics' started by iMarihuana, Nov 17, 2011.

  1. Hey GC. I've just recently started reading up on this new bill the gov is trying to pass. I somewhat get the gist of what's going on, but could someone dumb it down for me please and explain how this would affect my everyday life?
  2. it makes it illegal for sites to allow copyrighted material on it, and those can be closed/ "blacklisted" aka redirected or blocked. this could become dangerous to youtube and facebook, as well as twitter, and these sites were key in the current revolutions and protests. basically, it is big media lobbying the government to close things like "moxnews" and not allow any sort of copyrighted material on the web, without a trial to discern if they are in fact, infringing copyrights.

    I think this is correct, but i could be missing something or wrong
  3. this bill would save JOBS. and it's "PIRACY" not "PRIVACY"
  4. #4 Arteezy, Nov 18, 2011
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    Under SOPA, the government could attempt to block access to certain "pirating" sites; however, any attempts to block access to a site will most likely be circumvented fairly quickly, especially by the "pirates" who tend to be more internet-savvy than your average Joe.

    SOPA is just the government using the threat of internet "pirates" so that they can begin regulating what sites mainstream America can access.

    For further reading:;content 2-pager final.pdf
  5. We could pay people to murder too. Would you endorse that bill?
  6. like china, right? do you think the majority of america would be oblivious to such things? do you not think they are aware of such consequential backlashes if the government starts censoring sites they don't agree with? things wouldn't go over too well, and they know it
  7. Incrementalism is the name of the game.

  8. Some people dont realize that government never willing hands power back to the people, or stop that power they have from growing further.

    First its stopping Piracy, then its stopping porn/"offensive", then its stopping the drug traffickers(grasscity gone anyone?) then its Facebook\youtube if we ever start protesting this bullshite.

  9. Too late for that .....

    RIP Steve. :smoke:
  10. Is JOBS the new pandering catch phrase?

    People don't buy digital & physical media for a reason, the MPAA and RIAA are a dying breed.
  11. #11 Arnack, Nov 18, 2011
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    well firstly, piracy is illegal- pornography is not. if they make such a jump to ban pornography or "offensive" content (note that china barely censors porn these days), would you not expect an uprising in the USA? i sure would.

    i was quoting what a GOP cosponsor said about the bill in the senate haha, so i'm sure it is

  12. arnack i am surprised to hear these words from you.

    pornography is legal for now. drugs were once legal too, keep in mind.

    they wont ban pornography outright. just certain types, then increase restrictions, then "derogatory" then none.

    step by step.

    the underlying trend is what to look for in government actions.
  13. sorry, i just don't see the need to promote fear mongering about an anti-piracy bill (which will be delayed, like its predecessors). i think the debate should be about copyright laws and what intellectual ownership actually is... not some rambling about how this could evolve into a china-esque censorship system... american society simply wouldn't allow it, no matter how small the increments might be.


    now, the government will be able to:
    a. shut off the radio
    b. shut off the television
    c. shut off social networking sites

    and you let it happen because you didn't think about A and B.
    and now you're fucked. you just lost the game.

    meanwhile, they can:
    a. snoop on everything you do
    b. write their own warrants
    c. assassinate you if you are a "terrorist" with no trial
    d. beat the living shit out of peaceful protesters
    e. lock up "persons of interest" in a G-Bay for americans at the president's request
    f. take unlimited money from private donors

    and you're fuckity fuck fuck fuckity fucked because all you looked at was A and you ignored b-f while claiming people are "fear-mongering" about A
  15. the revolution would be much more swift and decisive if this happened and i don't think it's in the best interest of a government who wishes to stay in power if any of those abilities were abused.

    i don't necessarily see how the following is related to the thread topic, but i'll reply regardless.
    you mean online? if you are doing something illegal online, then yes, law enforcement will indeed "snoop" around and try to get the evidence to use against you in court, that is, if it's worth the money (computer forensics is a big and booming business, but not cheap). but if you're trying to say the gubbermint would snoop on an average internet user, that's simply not time effective nor even possible, unless subpoenas are filed against the corporations that have the data they want (which is also costly).
    warrants should be issued for violent criminals only, in my opinion.
    that's what war is.. the world isn't a perfect place. if it is confirmed you are actively plotting to kill US citizens, then we should be able to kill you first. in the case of anwar awlaki, i personally believe he would be more valuable if he was captured. but we both know i am admittedly against imperialism regardless.
    yes that is bad
    also bad
    obviously very bad

    see, we can agree on many things, chill on the caps locks homie :smoke:
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  17. It is certainly possible. As computing power increases, it will only get easier for governments to gather & process information on your average internet user(s).

    Do you think the CIA and other intelligence agencies (contracted by the "gubbermint") are just going to ignore the vast amount of personal information on the web?
  18. #18 Arnack, Nov 18, 2011
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    coming from a computer major and spending my whole life on computer technology, specifically specializing within internet security, i'd say it doesn't have to do with computer processing power, it has more to do with ISP's and social media site's collaboration with the government.

    best thing they can do now is harvest information you've made public online and that's about it. as well as subpoenas like i initially suggested, but that's if it was even granted.

    generally, yes, but definitely not all the time, no denying that. learn safe browsing and internet skills if you're worried about your privacy online.

    and for the record do you think the "gubbermint" is manually auditing every single thing they can find about every single person online? if so, i'm sure there are some jobs available, sign me up! i need one.
  19. Would the cost effectiveness of snooping not go up in correlation to computing power though?

    Kind of like asking IBM 700 series to do anything Win 7 does.
  20. #20 Arnack, Nov 18, 2011
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    If you're using your real name and posting personal information on a website, obviously always be cautious. if not, you have nothing to be worried about, unless you're doing something illegal, then let's hope you're chaining up proxies.

    as far as computer power and it's relation to snooping, it would be most effective if the government is creating "super-spiders" to index social media sites or what have you, though i have not seen any evidence of this yet, at least in my experience

    edit: i certainly hope you guys don't think the government has the abilities to install a keylogger via ISP company or something, right.. ok just making sure

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