This is a conversation I just had with an ex cop.. Me: nub Him: hm? Me: that game lol nub Him: Ill bitch slap ur ass Me: nope.flv Him: bitchass.py Me: nopeagainwithatrollfaicthistime.flvagain Him: not_anotherfoot_inur_mouth.axxes Me: police raid the cannabis cup Him: Lawls Him: <- A cop Me: theres nothing lawsly about raiding something that has been such a peaceful and non violent event for over 25 years Me: but since your a cop, you beleive that weed is bad amiright? Him: Nope Him: Only reason I dislike it and I'll give it to u straight Me: Him: 90% of the weed you receive comes from Mexico and that fuels for arm deals and weapons that enter our streets Me: yup Him: I dislike it because it comes from Mexico and thats my only reason Him: It isn't the drug itself it's the people behind the market Me: haha, the only reason the cartel makes any money off of it is because the fact that it is illegal Him: Not true Me: how so? Him: Reason they make money off it, is through human traffikking Him: Bringing mexicans Me: *rolleyes& Him: They pay nothing to bring it over and nothing to make it so they ly pay the guards Him: only* Him: Thats why they make a profit Me: yes exactly, because there is a black market, if weed were legalized for adults over 21 in the us it would cut down on the black market for weed drastically.nstead of trying to get rid of the cart Me: el we could profit from it Him: Not really, like all american leaders we will fall under more debt to try and buy it from Mexican cartel leaders Me: simple fact, were not winning the drug "war" and were wasting billions of years on fighting marijuana crimes alone from all the other drugs Me: hold up Me: how will we fall under more debt? Him: Then we will be like Mexico as they are now Him: in a crisis Me: i dont understand how we would fall under more debt and restrt to buying it from mexico Him: Ok who is our world supply right now? Him: Mexico Me: mexico :3 Him: To build and make a farm to feed american needs for weed would take over 10 years Me: what? Him: it will only take 2 for the cartel to over power the government of america Me: how would that take over 10 years? Him: To product a cash crop for the substance Him: Produce* Me: i dont understnad LOL Him: Ok lamens Me: are you saying it takes 10 years to grow weed? :3 Him: No Im saying it will take 10 years to produce enough to feed the american needs Me: I don under stand your lagic behind this Him: How much do you think the cartel sends over every 3 to 4 days? Me: ENUF lol idk a lot? Him: Last big bust was 114 tons Him: Thats the world record atm Me: :0 Him: Now how many workers would be needed to farm it? Me: idk :3 Him: How much land would be needed? Me: not much lol Him: How much would it be to quiet the protestors Him: The radicals Me: lets not get off topic to protestors, lol Him: Nah don't plan on it Him: It isn't logic that I get it from Him: It's Statistics Me: I understand, you kno that over 50% of americans favor legalization Him: Based on calculations Him: Nah much more then that Him: prolly in the 60's Me: yea thats why i said over 50 lol Him: Let me ask you this. Him: When we confiscate all these drugs where do we put it? Me: burn it, sotre it Him: We don't burn it. Me: sometimes we do Him: Nor do we store it Me: i can prove you wrong xD Him: we "did" at one point Him: But what about the hemp converse Me: the other week they were burning it down the street Him: Or the plastic made wood in hardware stores Me: What about hemp? Him: Not hemp Him: Hemp is in converses Me: hmm Him: But not in the wood Him: Based on a plastic made from THC Me: Yup, did you know that plastic is 5 times stronger than steel Him: Yup, now this is the question. Me: ok? Him: Did you know we resell it to the public without you knowing it? Me: resell? Me: what? Me: the weed Me: ? Him: The wood, shoes, perscription drugs, and most computers use the plastic made from the THC, Him: We sell it back to the public alrdy Me: not made from thc, made from hemp Him: But the thing is, we make more from doing that then the standard product. Me: I'm a little confused because we are getting ahead of outselves Him: Not really Me: lets take it sloww lol Him: I'm jsut stating facts I know Me: yes, and i like to hear them Me: lets go back to the gov making money off of weed if it were leagalized Him: See I'm an Ex-cop so trully I don't care to bab Him: If we legalized it for personal use Him: We would need 80% more then we have Him: To feed the american needs Me: how so? Me: i still dont understand this part lol Him: Let me explain Me: we can grow weed Him: Thats not the point Him: We use weed alrdy and make a hefty sum out of it Him: If we go and put it to a McDonalds type outet or chain Me: this is gonna be good xD Him: We would need 80% more of an increase to feed the american needs Me: well you do know that it doesnt cost much at all to grow weed? Him: And still make the products from weed that we alrdy make Me: and it grows fully in about 3-4 months Me: the US doesnt produce anything from hemp Me: we buy stuff from other contries that makje stuff from hemp Him: Thats not the point 60-70% of americans smoke weed and to produce that much would send us to another crysis because we wouldnt be able to make enough Him: If it legalizes then chains and outlets would be buying it up Him: The increasing the price to compete with Taxes, and other expenses Me: Alll you have to do it put a seed into the ground and grow weed, i dont understand still how it would costs soo much and how we wouldnt be able to feed americas needs.. It would create hunderds of thousands of jobs Me: It would also cut down on the cartel if we just make it cheaper than the black market price Him: Like I said we would buy it from Mexico for the first 3-4 monthes Him: If that happens then we are screwed Him: Sec let me show you a pic Me: Maybe we would, but the years after that we could grow out own.. it takes about 20 cents to grow a weed plant if you just feed it water.. We could still tax the hell out of it and make a hell of a lot more money off it than trying to keep it illegal Him: http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:...gRaMbcuXQnd_JcvLMmDAWJTc-EHjPFjfXbcsLfFzWIdOA Him: Just a pic of mine Him: Thats a few tons of pot Him: Now tell me this Me: Look at it this way, sure the cartels can make a lot of weed and send it over the obrder for very little costs, but the us can grow their own weed at very little cost. They can then take this weed and sell it for a cheaper price than reguar prices. Weed currently is 200% over priced on the black market.. Even if they add a lot of taxes to weed they would still porfit from all the jobs it would create and the money they could make from selling it Me: hold up hold up Me: THAT Me: Is more than a few pounds Him: I said tons Me: oh xD Him: thats about 4 tons Me: Ok. Him: I did this bust Me: nice Him: Now tell me how many days,weeks,monthes,oryears would it take to get this much how many plants and how much water? Him: This is a small shipment Him: They do about a 11 a day Him: Of these Me: it would take about 3-4 months. About 5000 plants, and idk how much water Me: it doesnt take years to grow weed man, it only takes a few months and a little water everyday. Him: What Im saying isnt that time it takes Him: Im saying the sheer volume of weed is much more then you might imagine Him: To keep americans happy Me: Ive seen my fair share of weed my man Him: You sure? Me: so sure Him: One sec Me: im not going into details with a former cop, but ive seen a field of weed Me: grown in a short amount of time. Me: So what im gettting from you is that to supply america with enough weed would be impossible right? Him: What im saying is that we use about 80% of the weed now to produce other produces Him: Products* Him: Redirect Notice Him: http://mexicoinstitute.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/marijuana-bust.jpg Him: Thats the money and the 114 tons of pot Him: This is 1 shipment Me: yes Him: Ok now think of it like this Him: we have about 10-20 thousand workers right now Me: yes Him: Milling and making other products from weed Him: If you legalize it Him: about 3k lose their jobs Me: how? Him: If the product doesnt come it Him: in Me: it will come in, let me explain Him: To mill it and instead shipped to the americans for the houshold use Him: Would make people lose their jobs and this is including the jobs it will make Him: What Im saying it Him: is* Him: We have 20k jobs just milling the stuff into something else Me: im pretty sure i get the message your saying.. if weed were legalized they woudnt have any weed, but let me explain why they would Him: Do you think america doesnt have a weed farm?> Him: We have 3 Me: ive seen a weed farm Him: *blanked out to keep it a secret :3*. Him: the big one Him: the other *instert number here* cant tell ya Me: blasemy! Him: Now why is it shutdown to the public? Him: And I've givin you the answer Me: so from my understanding your saying we couldnt grow enough weed to supply these people working and making profit from the weed you confiscate Him: Yup Me: and americans Me: now let me explain Me: to grow about 114 tons of weed in that picture it would take about 100 aecers of land. you kow how much land we have? i just dont understand how we wouldnt make prfit from something so easy to grow. not even talking about all the money we could stop wasting tryint to bring down the cartel Him: Let me say it in this term Him: Cops make it illegal so we can take it from you for free, fine you for it, and gives us a reason to do so. Him: If u legalise it. Him: It would mean a closet sized crop would support a family, the cartel wont ship any, and we lose the product Him: and we go into a crysis Me: you lose the product from the cartel but you can grow your own for way cheaper than the costs of busting everyone Him: Not really Him: We make far more then you think Him: We just deport them and they do it for free Him: We take more mill it and rinse and repeat Me: i know all about it man, but you still gotta pay all the cops working Him: 114 tons of pot is 225mil, if 114 tons of pot is milled, it makes over 4 tillion Him: Billion* Me: So basically all ive gotten out of you with this conversation is that cops are crooked and wrong. We couldn't profit from growing it ourselves because we make more moeny arresting innocent people and finening them for a plant Him: Pretty much. Reason I'm an ex-cop Him: It isn't logic in business Him: It's statistics Me: Hmm, i already knew this was how it played out and the reason they keep it illegal i justhad to get it from you Him: Cause it's worth more Me: a lot of people know this. Him: Reason it will never be legal Me: lets get off the cartel talk and lets talk about medical marijuana. Me: what are your thoughts on medical marijuana Him: I know nothing of that Me: so i have the upper hand > Him: No this is the part where I say "I can't tell you anything." Me: do you think weed has medical benifits? and also lol Him: All I will say. Him: Cause I know but at the same time I can't say Him: So I know nothing. Him: Nice chatting. Take it easy. Me: just because you dont know about medical marijuana doesnt mean you cant coment on it.. come on.. do you think weed has any medical benifits or are all the medical marijuana pateints just weed smokers trying to get a high? Me: WAIT!?"!?! Him is now Offline. Yea, so.. I just couldn't get through to him..
Well idk if he is or not lol. Idk why you read it haha. It's just a conversation I had over steam with an ex-cop.
It takes 10 years to grow weed man, and the mexicans control our economy in two years. The man is right, legalization wouldn't help.
[quote name='"Pass the dr0"']This is a stoner forum no one wants to read that log ass story[/quote] Speak for yourself lazy! If what he said is true then wtf? I'll add this to my list of reasons to move out of the US. lol. If we're really getting that much weed from Mexico, it would be hard to suddenly start producing that much on our own. You were right about it being easy and fast, but to set up growing operations for THAT much weed would take a while and we probably WOULD have to import it for a while.. Idfk know man, crazy stuff. I'd like to talk to that guy myself. Oh btw just tell us where the weed farm is!!!
I couldn't tell you why I made this thread. Maybe you should've been there at the time man, we were really bringing the definition of bromance to a whole new level - POSI-VIBES BRO! Balls touched.
Most cops still think weed causes drain brammage... Actually the reverse is true: Weed makes people smart enough not to become cops.
lol i could see them taxing it per plant or some shit so it would still cost you $100 per plant to grow it before nute and soil costs.
that just blew my mind. medical marijuana is certainly the right choice for americans. making it full out legal would mean the government has almost no control over it. Making it medical would mean they can still regulate it strictly (in terms of who they prescribe) while opening up another legal market while at the same time keeping those thousands of jobs open for Americans.
