For those of you who have no idea what's going on I'll sum it up for you. 1. US ambassador Chris Stevens killed in Libya - as it happened | World news | guardian.co.uk 2. Another protest turns violent outside U.S. Embassy in Cairo - CNN.com 3. Yemen Protests: Demonstrators Angered By Anti-Islam Film Storm U.S. Embassy In Sanaa 4. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM[/ame] If you watched the film you'd probably noticed it was dubbed over at certain parts. It was assumed that the actor didn't know what they were making and the dubbed lines, the hateful newly added lines, were edited in later. Well now its' confirmed by the 80 person crew. The rabbit hole gets pretty fucking deep in this thread. Staff and crew of film that ridiculed Muslims say they were 'grossly misled' - CNN.com Also, the man who claimed to be Sam Bacile, an Israeli/American Jew was suspected of not being who he said it was. That was later confirmed by Israel and Californian records that this man does not exist. But now truth of who this man is might be coming to light. Identity of mystery anti-Muslim filmmaker confirmed | The Raw Story Who Is Sam Bacile? Mystery of Anti-Islam Filmmaker's Link to Libya Embassy Riots Deepens - The Hollywood Reporter ***UPDATE*** Nakoula just a fall guy. Keyman: Joseph Nassralla Coptic Christian leader of organization that produced anti-Muslim film spoke at Pamela Geller's anti-mosque rally Joseph Nasralla Abdelmasih is a "Coptic Christian leader" at an anti-Muslim rally [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEJMRDqsMCE[/ame]
What I don't understand is how one silly movie can spark attacks and protests across the Islamic world. I don't believe it, but I don't understand what role the video really plays. Al Jazeera is saying that most of the protesters in Benghazi weren't even aware of the video, but they also say that people are protesting against the video. This whole thing is just really, really weird. I guess the main thing I want to know is how the attack that killed those Americans is linked to the video.
Do you know that Islam forbids their prophet from being portrayed? South Park and Family were getting death threats from extremists because they were planning on depicting Mohammad. Extremism aside, these Muslims have every right to protest, the problem is this movie invited Extremists/Bad Guys to cause terror, and that's what's happening. Libya is a great example of this. The place is overrun with terrorists ever since the "civil war" broke out. Gaddafi was hard on terrorists and jailed many. During the civil war many of the so called freedom fighters were know terrorist, including their leader. These men freed the imprisoned terrorists and even Al Quaeda planted their flag on Libyan buildings during and after the civil war. So protestors were peacefully demonstrating while terrorist used this as an excuse to attack. That's why finding out who made this retarded movie is paramount, and it turns out a well known anti Muslim guy made this movie. He made it to get an emotionally response from Muslims and to give extremists/bad guys the excuse they need to rain down attacks. There's much more to this story I'm sure, the pieces are coming together rather quickly. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UfXNN1IiNE&feature=plcp]Libya launches probe into US embassy attack - YouTube[/ame] And this just hit the wire, Revealed: inside story of US envoy's assassination - World Politics - World - The Independent
...The Islamist extremist groups were offended by the video, and attacked the embassy in retaliation. They knew that half of america anyway will agree that its americas fault in hopes that we will butt out and let them rule the middle east. What is hard to get? This video was not made by whites just coptic christians who want out of their oppression.
Of course people will protest when their prophet Muhammad is portrayed, especially in a way such as this. I also suspected like you say, that the video and attack on the embassy in Libya aren't related but are simply used as a spark for terrorist groups. But I think this video works like that for many of the protesters too. They have other grudges against the US and this video is just a reason to protest, burn flags, even storm an embassy or two. Many of the protesters that Al Jazeera showed weren't even talking about the video. They also said that in Egypt, football hooligans are clashing with the riot police. So what I'm confused about, is whether most of these people are really protesting the video, or whether most have just joined in to protest America and Israel in general. Also, could you refer me to your information about the leader of the Libyan revolutionaries being a "known terrorist"? Not that I am doubting that terrorists played a part in fighting the revolution, I just wonder who you're talking about.
Because the various muslim brotherhood members, and more fundamentalist factions which they TRUST tell them that America does all of this to them, when it does not. its more simple than it really is, don't give others the benefit of the doubt too quickly, American. Enjoy this, my grassalicious motherfucks! The caliphate is a marvelous wave; the like of which only those who go with its flow may not be sundered of their minds or bodies. It is compelling as it is presented as pure truth and reality. It is a body of peoples which is controlled by a few that claim they are the only legitimate representers of the lot. With death by martyrdom within its first dynasty preceding Mohammed, the dynasties thereafter that imposed the caliphate were mostly shiite (shiite being the ones who will kill you if you disagree, Sunni being the more civil version from a Western standpoint). When Mustafa Kemal Ataturk abolished the caliphate in the 20s, what has remained was democracy and a wonderful standard of living hanging on an unsustainable structure throughout much of the middle-eastern and muslim worlds. This unsustainable structure is hanging on rebels fighting for a revival of caliphate against mostly harsh dictators like more recently Egypt's Hosni Mubarak. Once the harsh dictator keeping order in these regions is removed, what happens after is bullies like Muslim fundamentalists, or socialist ideologies that will overpower a democratic republic of capitalist people. The vast majority of middle eastern peoples seem to have lived under conditions throughout history predisposing them to be loyal to certain canons. The various kings and dynasties organizing the ranks of their blossoming nations since Ancient Sumer, afterwards religion uniting the masses and playing a more crucial role. Before and after Islam much of the middle east is tribalistic. Similarly in Africa tribes remain a way of unique identity. Longing for salvation, security, and sustainability, and happiness... the masses of middle eastern peoples hold to their nostalgic or religious structures in order to uphold these four standards.
I don't feel like finding the article from last April 2011 but Benn Swann brings it up in this video, [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA3ZohJUjuc]Reality Check: Attack On U.S. Ambassador In Libya An Example Of "Blowback"? - YouTube[/ame]
omg you guys stop with this video already blowback shmoback these people who killed christopher stevens deserve to all die themselves, or be taught a strict lesson which they can't escape (like the punishment in clockwork orange)
I didn't post that video for the Blowback point, I posted it, you know, nvm. Just ignore you for now on.
not for nothing, your point isn't visible to me... you've been trying to establish communication this whole time that I'm just not getting, really, enlighten me. What is the point of posting that video again? to signify what?
Be like me and state your point on a pothead forum without caring what other potheads think. fire away, why did you post that damned reality check video. what are you trying to tell us or show us? you think i wont understand you, really? i dont think your understanding me the main point of the 3 minute shitty clip is blowback, and what else... that we are apparently arming idiots with guns? no fucking shit we've been doing that... cuz America is full of wussies like i'v stated before.