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Speedballs (aka coke + heroin)

Discussion in 'General' started by chronictoker, Aug 12, 2006.

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  1. #1 chronictoker, Aug 12, 2006
    JW, anyone ever tried it? It must be the shit unless u die or something that would be shitty, but seriously is this common at all? Thoughts, Experiences welcome.

    I read this book awhile back for this Cultural Sociology class, it's called In Search of Respect: Selling Crack in El Barrio, by Phillipe Bourgois. Actually one of the most interesting books i've read, this guy's a sociologist from CA i think and he goes to live in Spanish Harlem, NY to get to know crack dealer's get in their heads and what not. Really puts things in perspective, I highly recommend it to anyone with a strong stomach. It's really quite graphic, gang rape described in detail, murders etc etc.

    But these fools love their speedballs and I was just interested in hearing what u guys on GC think about snorting/injecting a mixture of powder cocaine/heroin...
     
  2. #2 BLARNEYSTONES, Aug 12, 2006
    i've heard of people doing "trays" i don't know how they do it, but i do know they smear it all over a peice of tinfoil and then let it dry out and then but a lighter underneath the tin foil and they inhale the smoke that comes off the tinfoil through a straw.
     
  3. #3 chronictoker, Aug 12, 2006
    Yeah, I think that's freebasing cocaine?
     
  4. #4 kevdoggystyle, Aug 12, 2006
    the fools that do it around here heat up the end of a glass tubes, usually a broken off downstem, then snort it, the heroin evaporates before it gets to your nose, known as a hotline
     
  5. #5 BLARNEYSTONES, Aug 12, 2006
    but i know cocaine and herion are involved in that process. whats the difference between freebase and cocaine. or how do you freebase cocaine?
     
  6. #6 Lil Loko, Aug 12, 2006
    i was watching World's Widest Police Chases the other day.. and this guy was on a speedball.. dude was a fucken maniac.. led a long police pursuit, then smashed into a tree, recovered, hit three officers cars on his way squirming out.. later in the pursuit he was caught in a deadend, only a gate blocked him.. he rammed it.. then he got himself trapped again, he rammed over the security gate.. then finally the pigs had him trapped.. and what he do? muthafucker ram over a huge steel gate.. yeah he broke it and took out 2 police vehicles with it, but he got dazed over the wheel and his truck stalled.. then he tryed to struggle with the officers when they were tryna detain him.. unbelivable!

    i was sittin there in dismay!
     
  7. #7 chronictoker, Aug 12, 2006
    Idk, but cocaine needs to be altered to become smokeable. Before crack was invented people freebased cocaine, but I suppose u could combine coke and heroin and smoke both?

    Here is a wiki article about freebase http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebase
     
  8. #8 chronictoker, Aug 12, 2006
    haha those chases are crazy sometimes...ever seen "Video Justice" it's kinda good too and there's always good ol' Cops.
     
  9. #9 triggasmokealot, Aug 12, 2006
    from what i understand...but correct me if im wrong...but this is grass city...grass being marijuana......not cocaine or heroine....my oppinion.....i dont think anyone who does heroine should even be talked to cuz its a bullshit drug...stick to weed...dont be a fag....peace
     
  10. #10 motion, Aug 12, 2006
    That, or smoking H. Shiney side up!
     
  11. #11 ...Spliff!, Aug 12, 2006
    Don't be a dick... -rep

    Although this forum is about mostly marijuana there are plenty of people here who post about other drugs. If it really disgust you that much why take the time to read the thread and post? Just look the other way.. damn these hipocritical Marijuana smokers.
     
  12. #12 thantheman, Aug 12, 2006
    I'm deff. not into coke or h, I've never done anything harder than shrooms or weed, but this is the general section and can talk about anything they want. It would be gay if people talked about weed on another forum and someone told them it wasn't the right forum for that. People can choose what they put in their bodies, even if its not a very smart choice.
     
  13. #13 plumface_2002, Aug 12, 2006
    isn't this how chris farley died?
     
  14. #14 inhale, Aug 12, 2006
    Personally I think it would be a waste to do anything while you're on heroin. What I would do if you had both is use the cocaine and then use heroin during the comedown. Coming down from cocaine is terrible. I'm coming down off caffeine pills now and I feel like shit, cocaine is 100x worse.
     
  15. #15 p_squared342000, Aug 12, 2006
    isn't this more/less a downer and an upper?. while i've never done H, i have done coke. From what i heard about H, it gives a dream like state. i'm guessing that a speedball would be like a lucid dream then, right?
     
  16. #16 Tbika, Aug 12, 2006


    yes, as well as john belushi and river pheniox (sp). I saw some thing on tv where they talked about speedballs. This one guy said "i tried it once, then i knew why everyone was doing them, and then i realized why everyone died from them" or something like that. Its very easy to overdose on them. Cocaine raises your heart rate, Heroin drops it, so not only is it easy to od, but even if you dont it is extremely bad for your body espeically your heart. If you're gonna try it, be very, very, very careful. And triggasmokealot, if you dont like people talkin about stuff other than weed, then stick to the recreational mj forum, cause weather you like it or not, people on this forum do other drugs, and they talk about them, here in the general forum. And even if you dont like that, calling people fags doesnt do anything except make yourself look immature and get you -rep from other members here who dont appreciate that type of disrespect.
     
  17. #17 Predator1, Aug 12, 2006
    this kept me laughing for a good 5 minutes. I dont know why.
     
  18. #18 chronictoker, Aug 13, 2006
    from wiki:

    The term "speedball" was by consensus almost always in reference to an injection unless otherwise stated, but the popularization of the concept in recent years has meant that many people who insufflate heroin and cocaine now combine the two drugs in order to achieve the purported effects. Some people who use heroin also combine it with smoked freebase cocaine (crack); in some circles this is considered a type of speedball, but is usually known as a moonrock.

    Actors John Belushi, Chris Farley, and River Phoenix, comedian Mitch Hedberg, former Major League Baseball pitcher Eric Show, keyboardist Brent Mydland of The Grateful Dead, drummer Robbie McIntosh from Average White Band, as well as Alice in Chains' singer, Layne Staley are all reported to have died after taking speedballs. There is speculation of Jim Morrison's death being attributable to speedballing. Depeche Mode lead singer, Dave Gahan, suffered a heart attack from overdosing on a speedball in 1996. He survived the incident and later gave up the drug. Original Guns N' Roses drummer Steven Adler suffered a stroke after taking a particularly potent speedball. While he survived, he now lives with a speech impediment as a result. Megadeth members Dave Mustaine and David Ellefson also admitted using speedballs in the band's Behind The Music documentary. Ellefson was quoted saying "It was great, the heroin helped you come off the cocaine. Now I knew why everyone did speedballs at that time, but not that everyone DIED from it... I forgot that part...". Red Hot Chili Peppers frontman Anthony Kiedis admitted to doing speedballs in his autobiography Scar Tissue. David Crosby says in his autobiography "Long Time Gone" that in his later years of hard drug addiction, he would freebase-smoke cocaine and snort or smoke heroin.
     
  19. #19 Krypto, Aug 13, 2006
    Naw, when you shoot up(I never have, I work in the restaurant biz and my best friend was a heroin addict, so I know alot about it) heroin you go through these dream states called nodding off. People all doped up will be tlking, then pass out, then wake up again not knowing wtf went on. Its really weird to watch. But cooking up coke and heroin speedballs make it easier for you to stay awake and have a more energetic high... Downers+Uppers=Heart failure
     
  20. #20 rx8purple, Aug 13, 2006
    what about mixing it with cocaine with weed does it have to be prepared a certain way?
     
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