Soil/ Hempy Comparison Grow

Discussion in 'Indoor Grow Journals' started by Soil2Coco, Sep 12, 2018.

  1. I was going to do the Clone Wars thing but couldn’t settle on a 4th method and the pain in the ass of dealing with 4 different techniques, I decided to scrap it for now

    So here’s what I decided to do instead. We are going to compare two different nutrient lines in Hempy Buckets, as well as try water only supersoil against a Geoflora organic nutrient amended Happy Frog soil. I will follow the nutrient company’s recommended feed schedules and for the Masterblend I will supplement Flower Fuel after week 2 of flower.

    Clones cut about a week ago. Two rooted well enough to transplant into the 3.5L hempys and got their first drink of nutes.

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  2. Thanks buddy. Got some 15 gallon pots cooking with my supersoil for later. Thinking of throwing some clover on top and doing a couple as no tills?
    What would it take to convert supersoil?
     
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  3. IMO, no till is the best. I might need to start another tent just because I don't have much to do and will have less to do once I get some blumats.

    What's in the super currently? It shouldn't take much to convert to no till.
     
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  4. #5 Soil2Coco, Sep 13, 2018
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    My base is 2 bales Sunshine mix #4 (3-6 cu ft per bale), 20 lbs composted chicken manure, 20 lbs ewc, 1/2 big bag chunky Perlite.

    Amendments are:

    Alfalfa meal
    Kelp meal
    Neem seed meal
    Biochar
    K mag
    Dolomite lime
    Oyster shell flour
    Feather meal
    Fish bone meal
    Crab meal
    High phos guano
    High N guano
    Seabird guano
    Glacial rock dust
    Basalt rock dust
     
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  5. Your base ratios are a bit off. You have 10 (for ease) cuft of SPM, approx 2 cuft of your compost element (castings and chicken shit), and maybe 1 cuft of airation (perlite).

    I would add 8 bags of Malibu BU compost and more airation. Try and find some scoria or pumice as they will stay put in the soil. I would add 6 more cuft of airation. All in all, you are looking for 1/3 of each SPM, compost, and airation. The issue with your base is that it is way SPM heavy.

    What are the amounts of your amendments? Should have 1/2-1cup of each of the meals per cuft, 4-5 cups per cuft of biochar, and about 1-3 cups per cuft of the combined rock dusts. I have not used the guano or k mag so not sure on the appropriate amount.
     
  6. The sunshine mix has coarse Perlite and coco mixed in, About 20% of each. It also has microbes. I should be good with aeration.
    I am way light on compost/humus though. I knew I was a little light at 3 cu for per bale, but didn’t read that the Sunshine mix expands to 6 cu ft per bale. Good catch!!! It’s been cooking for about a month already, and I actually have three plants in use.
    I’m a little light on amendments too. I figure about 24 cu ft total now and I think I put 6-8 cups of each amendment in. Damn.
     
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  7. The soil clones have rooted and planted into one gallon pots of their media. One clone is in Geoflora mixed with Happy Frog and Perlite. The other clone is in a 1/3 layer of Happy Frog mixed with supersoil and 2/3 layer of straight supersoil.
    The ingredients are pictured, along with Biochar, glacial rock dust, basalt rock dust and the base

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    Now, as mentioned above, my supersoil may not be so Super due to ignorance on my part. However, I have some White Shark ladies that are absolutely killing it with Recharge and kelp teas

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  8. Some noticeable growth on both the Hempy clones.

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  9. 10 days into the comparison

    All clones doing well, except the One in the Geoflora amended Happy Frog soil. Looks like it may be a little hot for the young clone. I’ll flush tomorrow and see how she does.

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  10. And the mainline begins. Equal height, equal nodes. One is a little thicker than the other, let’s see if it transitions into a better yield.

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    Subbed
    Doing hempy’s
    In the wings



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  12. Well, the Supersoil is killing it, 10 days since transplant and already topped and beginning the manifold

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  13. The soil growth rates shouldn't be anywhere near the hempies or Coco. I've done many side by sides. I even did percentages of amended soil cut with Coco (20%, 30%, 40%).. I decided straight 70/30 high quality Coco and perlite was my preferred medium.

    I do plan too try some Royal Gold Tupur on a few 20 gallons next Flower Cycle, heard good things. Experiments are always fun though.

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  14. That’s what I use for coco. It’s great and clean right out of the bag.
    So far the supersoil growth is similar to the hempys or better. Hempys have been in 2 weeks, ss plant only 10 days. The hempys took a few days to kick into gear since the roots had to reach the res.
     
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  15. That makes sense. If the roots didn't reach the res yet. Are you using straight Perlite or Coco/perlite with a few inches of perlite in the bottom for the hempies?

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  16. Straight Perlite. Just experimenting. I can’t afford to mess up a harvest.
     
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  17. Hempy should are rocking right along. Got a little hot on the Keygrow Nutes so I backed them down some.

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    The supersoil clone is killing it!! Geoflora is starting to gain some momentum but Supersoil leads all as of now!!

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  18. Dam got enough room.️I used straight bud, all bud, very sticky bud. Not trim


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  19. That’s not their home. Just a nice spot for a photo op. Here’s they are last Sunday , right next to my res.

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