So, America. Let`s Talk SOCIALISM. like adults?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Slick21, Aug 15, 2018.

  1. Uh, what? You forget about the whole command structure thing?
     
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  2. yea, maybe I am too optimistic. I lack the wisdom to discriminate what I know and what others know. Utopic Socialism will have to wait until Elysium is up and running, but at the same time, I will continue to do good deeds (and hope society does to) and... probably will still die economically poor, but its not because I don't work. I just don't really care about money so much... and I need to recognize that many don't see it that way (most). Money exists for me to invent the next thing. I still have nice things I think.
    Still need to work no matter what system is there though. And if the government wants to give out money, they can give it to me, and I will invent some new lights for us all :D
     
  3. I’m always up for new lighting!

    Light is good - lol

    I’ve been digging the “Edison” bulbs lately and the artsy way they can come up with virtually any shape you can think of for the filaments. Cool stuff.

    I honestly don’t care an awful lot about $$ money either - I just need to have enough so that I can pay all of my bills, have decent food on the table and continue working on the house. That thing is a money pit lol although I would say that it would be nice as hell to not need to get up early every morning and have to go to work for a paycheck. It gets tiring but if you want to eat you have to work. Someday I’d like to think it will be possible but I’ve still got another solid 10 years before I am at the state where I’m told I’ve paid my dues and don’t need to get up at 3 AM,

    drive 65 miles to work, work a long day & then drive another 65 miles home - and that’s without my daily driving to assorted job sites to make sure things are running smoothly & that the guys are getting the amount of work done that they’re supposed to -
    But I’m getting off track. What you’re
    Saying sounds good (maybe/kinda) but there’s way too many variables - and WAY too many slackers. I don’t see how it could ever work where people win a lot of training would get paid the same amount as a janitor - not fair in my opinion - And there would be no incentive for people to go the extra mile.

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  4. Yes there is a command system in the military as there is in socialism, the state.
     
  5. The ano cap is strong in this one... keep a eye on you we will

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  6. Quantity over quality? Do you know what moral hazard is?
    Also do you think prices will go up or down if its subsidized?
    Let's see that brain work....

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  7. My family struggled as well. But as we worked hard and smart, our biggest obstacle from moving from lower class to middle was the government.
    All the hard work and sacrifices we made sometimes went for not. We would spend our hard earned savings on ideas and services for our fellow citizens and many times lost money. However there was someone who always made money no matter what we did profit or not, who always got paid and that was the government.
    Just take the cannabis industry as a example, are you aware of the amount of capital that is now required by law to enter the market? Laws and regulations pushed by your gods are killing the small growers and creating another corporate takeover. The over 50% tax on it. Not the over 10 million dollar tipity tipity tops.. but the first dollar earned. Then if they are awarded a big enough market share by politicians some of them want 70% of the additional dollars earned over 10 million. You guys are delusionally evil! The over regulation and parasitacal jobs created by the enforcement of laws by beurocrats and voted into by ignorant people who cant put 2 and 2 together is ridiculous. You bite the hand that feeds you svedka

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  8. Great post!!
     
  9. I'm so fucking tired of your meddling with Venezuelan markets gig....
    Does 9-11 qualify as economic meddling? How did capitalism bounce back from that?
    Your socialist dream is always teetering on the brink of human disaster. It's just 6 months away at any given point no matter how rich it seems to be or where it is practiced.

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  10. So much monetary and economic ignorance here its breath taking..... did you steal this from a public school textbook?

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  11. Let's cut military by 50% and taxes equally. And 1 in 5 children are not starving in America. I'm not aware of one single person dying due to starvation in my lifetime. Not one.
    In the United States, children do not starve because of poverty. There are more than enough food resources for children and much food in those programs goes to waste each year.
    Children in the United States starve due to parental choices, often fueled by mental illness and drug addiction.


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  12. The new deal

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  13. Open your window

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  14. Punctuation on point. Memory not so much.

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  15. With no money and no profit how do you know that your are using limited resources efficiently and effectively?
    Or is it just good intentions we are after?

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  16. Children die because of the state brother, many starve because their daddy's have been locked up for Mickey mouse crimes by a twisted and oppressive state.
     
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  17. I think it was Shapiro who explained that even if you feel that way, There will always be a Stalin behind you to slit your throat and erase your memory
     
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  18. #720 svedka, Feb 24, 2019
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    This is a classic example of how those who have no idea what socialism is other than propaganda that it caused all the problems in Venezuela (look at Venezuela) not knowing all the detailed steps as to how that country ended up in the state it's in... If they would study the underlying reasons and actions taken by the USA against Chavez and others they could at least speak intelligently about it, not just toss it up as an example of pure (not tampered with from the outside) socialism.

    But i digress... This very short clip from FOX NEWS is a textbook example of facts vs fiction based on decades of propaganda from the plutocrats and oligarchs owning & controlling both political parties and Lame Stream Media... btw, FOX is controlled even more than the others but it has a purpose... If the conned don't get their "fix" of programming the Kool-Aid begins to wear off and bits of reality begin to seep in... Heaven forbid.. lol

    The comment section below the clip is excellent... we could use some clear thinkers over here on GC like those contributing to Youtube imo... Here is one currently at the top that does some up the clip pretty much...
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    "This Fox News clip is the most Orwellian shit I’ve ever seen in my life. Literally every point that woman said is the exact opposite of reality."

     
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