Blades, Continuing the weekly discussion's focus of using alternative forms of media, I present the following: Yes, that's right. Marvel Comics has Captain America infilitrating evil racist tea party groups as part of the "Two Americas" story arc, stating in this current issue (#602) of Captain America. Under Bush, Captain America turned anti-government (and sorta anti-American too, if you ask me) and was much-concerned with thwarting evil-doers who... um, were like trying to kill terrorists and stuff. But now, under Obama, it's safe to uncritically trust the government again, I guess. Bet you didn't know that when you were indulging your right as a citizen to protest your government that you were a dangerous white supremacist that wants to destroy the country, did you? Bet you didn't realize that your reverence for the U.S. Constitution was a subversive thing to do, did you? And I'll also bet that you never imagined that you'd scare the little blue panties off of Captain America! More can be found here: http://www.publiusforum.com/2010/02...ca-says-tea-parties-are-dangerous-and-racist/ (I took a paragraph from the original article and a paragraph from ace.mu.nu) So, your thoughts?
Wow, that's a trip. It'd be funny if it wasn't so obviously promoting a certain agenda. I've never quite caught on to this whole Tea Party Protesters = Racist White People notion. Where's Spider-Man at? That was the only comic I was really into as a kid. Maybe Spider-Man should be trying to expose the global warming bullshit. He could have an epic battle with Al Gore and The Green Goblin. Wait... is John Edwards going to be involved?
I dont see anything wrong with ol' capt. america thwarting evil doers that are attempting to assasinate members of certain Islamic sects. What people seem to forget in the U.S. is that terrorist attackts (such as sept. 11) are responses to American attacks and unwanted occupations in the middle east, not just some zealous attack on freedom. It all started when The U.S. took a functioning soviet government with free healthcare, education and all kinds of other programs and replaced it with a knowingly corrupt Taliban government that was oppressive(especially towards women) and that the people didnt want. All so that we could trade with them for oil. Then we bombed an embassy in the middle east and killed some innocent people. And now, because of that and the fact that US wouldnt leave saudi arabia after the gulf war those same leaders (osama bin laden) we put in power and gave arms to turned on us and attacked. We think they attacked our citizens personally, but really they were attacking the the mistakes of our government. So instead of apologizing and making things right with our arab brothas we were manipulated through fear and ignorance into allowing our gov't to invade, bomb, and continue killing(like terrorists) thousands of innocent citizens of afghanistan and iraq. Those that are attacking us are doing so because they dont want to be suffocated with the U.S.'s post-colonial oppression. no one seems to get this....... So that's why Im really down with the new slant on captain America. But I do get where youre coming from Sir Elliot, it definately seems Marvel has alienated a large audience with what theyve done. However I dont really think that pointing out the fact that the Tea Party IS primarily a group of white middle and upper class conservatives, and saying that a black guy from harlem wouldnt fit in, neccessarily implies racism. I mean white capitalist culture has traditionaly and still does oppress and exploit minorities in order to keep the status quo. It doesnt make white people racist just means our lifestyles are dependent upon the exploitation of other groups and recources. Sorry, Im a fat socialist. cant help it.
Thats strange dude. But realy put it in prespective. Its just the people who make Captain America comics political views. Its dumb but Who cares.
tru dat. Being able to freely express different opinions is far more important than which perspective is "correct"
Damn captain america for subverting young minds to the leftist agenda and damn him even more for defending muslims when we all know they are all terrorists!!! It's un-american
lol, I dont know, I think while it's noble for a hero to defend his country against tyrants, it's even more noble to defend it from becoming a tryant itself.
I.. don't really care. It's (arguably) art, and a political bias in art is more likely to be a good thing than a bad, especially when it offers insight, unlike this example. It's not like I stopped watching V (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(2009_TV_series) - The re-imagined series has been interpreted as an allegory of the presidency of Barack Obama.) because it had a political bias I disagreed with; although I probably should have, since it was pretty mediocre. As long as it maintains the status of fiction, the political bias simply makes it more interesting, and as long as it doesn't claim credibility, I'm indifferent. The Meghan McCain comment is the most recently well publicized suggestion of it. Racist protest signs + Tom Tancredo are pretty popular too, but I'm not familiar with relevancy. I'd argue that anyone who considers themselves represented by Sarah Palin has the same credibility as the "racist white people" argument says they deserve. I find her hypocrisy and ignorance appalling..
You realize you're referring only to GOP celebrities and images that are plastered on the corporate news networks? Dude, you watch Keith Olberman, you have zero credibility as an objective opinion. Look around the internet at all the different groups that comprise of the anti-big government, anti-bailout movement known as tea partiers (or "teabaggers" as your people call them) and you'll see a different picture than the one Keith shows you.
Yea- because the media as a whole is defining Sarah Palin as representative of the tea party movement, and she claims to be such a thing. If they don't want to be associated with mainstreamer such as palin, I would suggest they rebrand themselves again and again until the GOP stops jumping on their bandwagon. Either that, or tell the GOP to fuck off when they come knocking; if you don't want to be associated/represented by someone, you generally make it clear. I linked Olberman because that was where I heard about this. I've actually never seen the show.. ever. I got the clip off reddit. To some extent, I completely agree; the media (and especially manipulative talk show hosts like olberman) has very little value, has destroyed its own credibility, and is deplorable for pretending to maintain that credibility while being extremely biased, often doing little to no fact checking, and pursuing partisan agendas. Now; as for the reality of the makeup of society it's going to be mostly interpretation and guesswork. First, I think the "redneck" portrayal of teapartiers is valid; at worst, they can be ignorant, racist, completely irrational and religiously motivated.. but the fringes of every political group are ugly. The problem, imo, is that the tea party is a fringe movement, and has drastically changed since it began, and has been coerced not by manipulation, but by the majority of new members reveling in ignorance. In my opinion, these are the people that voted for George Bush. They want the leader they can have a beer with, imagine attending church with, and one that won't hesitate to act on a gut feeling. It would explain the numbers, the anger with the current government, as well as the fact that the movement started as a well organized fundraiser and devolved into a bunch of fat white people with misspelled signs. I'm not saying there aren't intelligent people who say there is something wrong with the liberal democratic state we live in; hell, I think that there are major problems, I simply think that any movement fueled by god, guns and small government is going to get the same thing they got the first time: George Bush.
are you shitting me? sarah palin is the biggest piece of shit on this earth and shes leading this new racist group. all this tea party bullshit is just a bunch of racist, rich, white people who want it to be the 1800s again. everything they stand for is evil and insane.
Bush stood for lower taxes, he simply didn't practice it except for the wealthy. Bush stood for limited government, he simply didn't practice it. Bush opposes democrats, the tea party opposes democrats. So.. we've covered all the bases except the stimulus package, which is utterly incongruous, but I'd say that's more likely the result of Bush actually holding office. I imagine if he was campaigning while the bill was in question, his opinion would have been different.
Who reads comic books anyway Please please tell me you're being sarcastic because I can't tell. The tea parties are one of the best political events to happen.... ever BTW the tea party was Libertarian but is now getting jacked by some Republicans