Shit is about to hit the fan!

Discussion in 'Marijuana Legalization' started by MasterOG, May 16, 2011.

  1. A little long but definitely worth reading. Basically re-scheduling is going to happen within the next year!




    A Profound Moment for American Marijuana: Showdown in DC


    A Profound Moment for American Marijuana

    Photo by David Sygall
    The spring of 2011 has brought tension to the air for everyone involved with cannabis in the United States. Federal authorities have unleashed a coordinated attack on political efforts to tax marijuana and they have made war on medical marijuana programs. This has been matched by additional states changing local laws, putting more skin into the game than ever.
    The bets are now in for the biggest cannabis policy showdown in our generation – right in Washington DC. The Schedule I status of marijuana in the federal Controlled Substances Act will either be re-affirmed or changed, likely over the next 24 months.
    Marijuana prohibition has become the most refined and serious states' rights issue of the 21st Century. Millions of Americans are now participating in a multi-billion dollar medical cannabis economy.
    States are taking greater pains to regulate this fast-moving industry. Why? To recognize the will of their residents but also to gain badly needed tax dollars. In some cases, they are getting that money.
    At the same time, Michele Leonhart has led the Drug Enforcement Administration to conduct a major escalation of raids that bring automatic weapons into peaceful marijuana centers.
    If marijuana were moved to Schedule II, III, or IV or even removed from the schedule (that is an option), it would end the conflict of state vs. federal law on all related matters. That means whatever marijuana industry that states decide to authorize (medical, recreational or hemp) could be protected, regulated and taxed.
    When the Controlled Substances Act was created in 1970 a blue-ribbon commission was chartered by President Nixon to study marijuana's proper placement. The recommendation in 1972 was that personal cannabis use should be decriminalized and it should not appear in the scheduling. Obviously Nixon ignored those suggestions.
    Forty years later we live in the ‘Just Say Drug War' era. Still, the status of marijuana has always been overseen by Congress and the President. They have been the quiet players at the poker game thus far. But the increase in aggression by the DEA and US Attorneys has produced an interesting result.
    When the Washington state Legislature recently passed a bill to regulate a dispensary system for patients the fed came down like a ton of bricks on the political process. Governor Chris Gregoire (a former US Attorney in her own right) vetoed the bill. But then she turned around to announce plans to bring together the now 16 medical marijuana Governors in a unified lobby for re-scheduling to category II.
    Gregoire currently leads the National Governors Association. Having the elected leaders of these states actively seek an end to federal cannabis prohibition could be a significant pressure point on Senators and Representatives in Washington DC.
    We are also just beginning to see federal lawsuits filed in Montana by the victims of these DEA raids over illegal search and seizure. Cannabis and money are stolen, bank accounts cleared out; but no one is arrested. Not exactly by-the-books due-process.
    The IRS has now appeared at the table as a major player, staked by the Fed against individual entrepreneurs. Financial investigations of successful cannabis business like Harborside Health Services in Oakland are underway.
    At the same time the city of San Jose California began raking in $290,000 in monthly taxes from local medical cannabis sales!
    The effect of these simultaneous actions has just forced everyone in the game to go all-in. Congress and President Obama are being positioned to make their bets and address the issue…during an election season. And that may be the plan.
    However, supporting the move to Schedule II in the CSA is a safe position, politically. Ever growing majorities of American voters, of all parties, support their local medical cannabis laws. So, re-scheduling is backed by tremendous public support, but groups such as the American Medial Association (AMA) have also recommended the change.
    Moving to Schedule II is a good quick-fix for the current medical cannabis industry as well as programs like Rhode Island and New Jersey that remain on hold. Even the Internal Revenue Service would be mollified.
    Still, there should be a modern congressional commission designated to study full cannabis legalization if re-scheduling is adopted.
    A more disturbing outcome is possible. The current Schedule I status could ultimately be upheld by Congress and President Obama. That would likely signal another significant increase in federal aggression towards the existing medical cannabis industry. This sends everyone down a terrible path. Battles will rage in the courts and in the faces of seriously ill patients just trying to follow their state laws.
    Would some Governors then mobilize their Attorneys General, their police or even the National Guard to protect their state employees, medical cannabis centers and patients?
    We are experiencing the Cuban Missile Crisis in the cold war between the States and the US Federal Government on medical marijuana laws. Moving to Schedule II would pull authorities on both sides back from the brink of violence.
    The move would also allow everyone to split the pot. Of paramount importance, it would directly help the millions of seriously ill residents who access this proven therapy every day.
    Marijuana prohibition has seen windows for reform in the past; none have been open this wide.
    Public support must be channeled because taking the game to Congress is also where the marijuana reform movement has traditionally been the weakest.
    Just a handful of federal legislators are there to champion this cause: Ron Paul (R-TX), Barney Frank (D-MA), Jared Polis (D-CO), Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) and Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) to name the most vocal.
    However there is one place that the marijuana legalization movement is stronger than everyone else, including the Fed: Online. Within the modern Matrix pot reform is Neo.
    This could be the end-game. Everyone online is at the table too, so don't sit this one out.
    Marijuana prohibition deserves a peaceful solution, for all Americans.
     
  2. Tldr.
    Nah j.p :)
     

  3. well you should probably garner attention, cause this affects the whole country
     
  4. #5 Zewz, May 16, 2011
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    I'm british were like 2 years behind anyway.
     

  5. I know i read it :) i was messin with ya'

    :wave:
     
  6. lol alright man, spread the knowledge
     
  7. More knowledge to spread- click that first link in my sig!


    Granny
     
  8. Wow at least add some formatting if you think you need to copy paste the whole article.
     
  9. Can someone translate this into retard friendly for me?
     
  10. This could be big.
     
  11. main points:

    1) "right in Washington DC. The Schedule I status of marijuana in the federal Controlled Substances Act will either be re-affirmed or changed, likely over the next 24 months."

    2) "If marijuana were moved to Schedule II, III, or IV or even removed from the schedule (that is an option), it would end the conflict of state vs. federal law on all related matters. That means whatever marijuana industry that states decide to authorize (medical, recreational or hemp) could be protected, regulated and taxed."

    side points:
    1) "When the Controlled Substances Act was created in 1970 a blue-ribbon commission was chartered by President Nixon to study marijuana's proper placement. The recommendation in 1972 was that personal cannabis use should be decriminalized and it should not appear in the scheduling. Obviously Nixon ignored those suggestions."

    2) "However, supporting the move to Schedule II in the CSA is a safe position, politically. Ever growing majorities of American voters, of all parties, support their local medical cannabis laws. So, re-scheduling is backed by tremendous public support, but groups such as the American Medial Association (AMA) have also recommended the change."
     
  12. lol aptly titled thread OP, i agree! this is a very interesting development. its going to come down to ignorance vs. stone cold facts and my money is on the latter.
     
  13. #14 pearl75, May 17, 2011
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    Basically, if the drug is rescheduled the state doesn't have to fight the federal government to set its own standards. Doctors will have more protection from fed. prosecution for prescribing it. That's very important. Our doctors are getting slammed lately for the drugs they prescribe. A lot of people are asking, what gives the government the right to override a doctor where medicine is concerned? Shouldn't we expect our doctors to know best, and not some suit behind a desk in Congress?
     
  14. is this good or bad? I didn't read the wall of text
     
  15. I think that there is one angle that this very well written article has left out:

    The addition of organically derived Marinol equivalent drugs to Schedule III and the emergence of new clinical trials of Sativex in the U.S.

    If/when organically derived Marinol is added to Schedule III, and if/when Sativex becomes FDA approved for use in the U.S. it will make it much harder to argue the "no currently accepted medical use" angle of Schedule I. While this is not a "slam dunk" by any means, it would be a strong anti-dote to the flawed reasoning behind marijuana being a Schedule I substance.
     
  16. Thanks guys :)

    Even though it doesn't apply to my country directly I'm happy that the biggest influence in the world is starting to make a step in the right direction. Is it 100% certain that Cannabis is going to change classification though?
     
  17. Ahhh, but once proven effective, can you produce your own or will there be regulations?
     
  18. #19 ocsurfer, May 17, 2011
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    Would regulated medical marijuana be preferable to going to federal prison?

    The point here is that marijuana's status as a Schedule I substance has severely restricted the medical community's ability to study the drug. It must be rescheduled (or removed) for any progress to take place.

    Also note that not everybody sees Governor Gregoire in a favorable light when it comes to medical marijuana:

    Group: Washington Gov. Gregoire 'A Liar' About Dispensaries - Toke of the Town

    Many see her veto of the recent Washington state legislation as cowardly. Look at Vermont and Delaware where they recently passed MMJ laws despite the saber-rattling warnings of U.S. attorneys. Governor Gregoire almost certainly knew what the U.S. Attorney's response would be when she "asked" about the pending legislation :mad:


    By no means is it certain. The current petition to reschedule marijuana has been languishing for almost 10 years with no action by the DEA.
     
  19. Of course, but what i meant was once there is a pill and sublingual form approved, who controls production? Big Pharma?
     

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