Why does no one seem to mention Sheldon Black when talking about water pipes? I think they produce some cool glass. Just curious.
he makes some great stuff. my 2 main pieces right now are a 6 arm bub and a 13 inch grasso with showerhead downstem, both sheldon. that being said he is not as popular nor is his glass quite as high end as some other manufacturers right now.
first off Sheldon Black is as real as Santa or honest politicians....just a name like Jerome Baker (yeah theres no Jerome either). A guy named Richard owns it and a pretentious twat named Paul trained a crew...the work is admittedly relatively clean and solid, however they are overly complicated, overpriced, and impossible to repair most all the time because of the retarded filler hole plugs on the sides(dont kid yourself, its glass, it will eventually break)...send your hard earned money to a different company who would actually appreciate it, and beware as several "American Made Glass" companies are using Chinex and most companies in LA use, lets call it imported labor crews ......oh and a factoid about percs...dont matter how many arms, coils, whistles, slits etc...its about how much water the smoke passes through...27 arms in 1 oz of water isnt as effective as a cooling or filtering medium as more water and same or less slits/arms whatever...percs are more likely to break than a single chambered piece with an ash catcher if you really think a second chamber is gonna do you any good and yes i am a glassblower and lampworker
I'd buy a cheap chinese tube over an overpriced American tube ANYDAY. Please take note that not everyone on this forum has a lot of money.
Doesnt the size of the slits, and number of slits help increase the amount of surface area the smoke contacts aswell as decrease drag?
I love my sheldon and if im not mistake they use schott glass which isnt low end. . .and what does it matter if Sheldon Black is a real person? its sturdy well made glass and its really not that pricey imo. but everyones entitled to their opinion; doesnt make it true, doesnt make it a lie.
youre dealing with airflow fighting static pressure, and the abseloute maximum air entering the piece is determined by the size orifice of your downstem, which is typically 19 mm(14 mm is just plain tiny and i dont know why people are still buying them) so any amount of slits over that potential of 19mm dont hurt but wont help as much as people think. the more bends and chambers you have inrease resistance. people seem to like the look of slits more i think because they have that machine made sci/artistic look, they do make smaller bubbles which makes the piece vibrate and chug a little smoother, but the water is the only component that filters. up to a certain point, the more water the smoke passes thru the better filtration. i always see the multi chamber dealies with trees stacked up and each chamber has a smidgen of water in them which really doesnt work well for intended purposes and trees are impossible to keep intact, they will guranteed break regardless of maker as its a fragile design. dome percs are stronger but less popular. in the end its really just about what you want to look at,but water volume is a very important factor that seems overlooked by most companies. and a beaker or bubble bottom piece will always hit better than a straight tube with a flared foot because of the flow dynamics of a curve vs the sharp pinch of the corner where the tube wall and flat bottom meet. and as a side note, Conviction Glass uses Schott glass, is U.S. made high quality, doesnt employ an all imported work force yet claim to be U.S. made and has a new type of perc that has minimal drag and looks pretty sexy in my opinion and the prices are way better than sheldon or phx etc. the fixed shower head beaker with or without the perc hits great and you cant top the price for the quality and function
Didn't mean to offend you Hippie. I said nothing about multiple percs or chambers. I was just curious as to why no one ever talks about there product.
[quote name='"Madcap79"']Didn't mean to offend you Hippie. I said nothing about multiple percs or chambers. I was just curious as to why no one ever talks about there product.[/quote] "their"
[quote name='"Madcap79"']Didn't mean to offend you Hippie. I said nothing about multiple percs or chambers. I was just curious as to why no one ever talks about there product.[/quote] Their*
oh not offended man, just throwin in my 2 cents...most consumers also dont seem to have the inside on sheldon, the owner is kinda a douche and there are a lot of companies that make a great line of glass that arent arrogant pricks
They make great glass but in the end it is overproduced compared to some brands. You'll see small flaws here and there occasionally . But they stand behind their product! Their prices are somewhat high, especially getting stuff strait from them. But at my lbs and most others the prices on their stuff is spot on. Usually 20% less than SB themselves charge the public. I have lots of SB and love all of it. I can post some pics if you'd like.
[quote name='"HippieChris"']youre dealing with airflow fighting static pressure, and the abseloute maximum air entering the piece is determined by the size orifice of your downstem, which is typically 19 mm(14 mm is just plain tiny and i dont know why people are still buying them) so any amount of slits over that potential of 19mm dont hurt but wont help as much as people think. the more bends and chambers you have inrease resistance. people seem to like the look of slits more i think because they have that machine made sci/artistic look, they do make smaller bubbles which makes the piece vibrate and chug a little smoother, but the water is the only component that filters. up to a certain point, the more water the smoke passes thru the better filtration. i always see the multi chamber dealies with trees stacked up and each chamber has a smidgen of water in them which really doesnt work well for intended purposes and trees are impossible to keep intact, they will guranteed break regardless of maker as its a fragile design. dome percs are stronger but less popular. in the end its really just about what you want to look at,but water volume is a very important factor that seems overlooked by most companies. and a beaker or bubble bottom piece will always hit better than a straight tube with a flared foot because of the flow dynamics of a curve vs the sharp pinch of the corner where the tube wall and flat bottom meet. and as a side note, Conviction Glass uses Schott glass, is U.S. made high quality, doesnt employ an all imported work force yet claim to be U.S. made and has a new type of perc that has minimal drag and looks pretty sexy in my opinion and the prices are way better than sheldon or phx etc. the fixed shower head beaker with or without the perc hits great and you cant top the price for the quality and function[/quote] This post is filled with manure. The point your missing is the agitation of the smoke. Now I agree that if the surface area of all the grids or slits in a single perc is greater than that of the hole through which air enters (ends up being the bowl/slide, NOT the downstem) then it becomes something called diminishing returns. But your forgetting the point of grids and slits. The smaller the percolation holes, the smaller the bubbles. The smaller the bubbles the more surface area the smoke has in contact with the water. Therefore smaller bubbles=better filtration. It is also then implied that better filtration requires less water to achieve the same result as a perc with larger holes/bubbles. A natural perc can diffuse just as well as an SG stemline if you ran the smoke from the natty perc through gallons of water. But as you add more water, you begin to exponentially increase the drag. Therefore more slits and grids allow you to decrease drag by requiring less water to achieve the same or better filtration. It's all about striking a balance with water levels. You have to weigh drag vs. Increased filtration, and each person has their own preference.
Heres some shots: 6-shooter bub, all sand blasted Evan York collab Forte 16" Grasso 7mm 5-arm removable (29mm>18mm low profile joint) w/Gettin High label Double 6-arm bubbler All Blasted 5-arm removeable perc AC 29>18mm joint 5mm Forte Beaker with gettin high logo I have a couple more ACs from them and a double chamber circ tube. If you have any questions let me know.