Seriously need help!

Discussion in 'Sick Plants and Problems' started by Metalace, Aug 3, 2006.

  1. Yes im having serious serious problems with my babies. I just transplanted a few to there own pots with half mgrow pot mix and half white pellets that are post to help the soil n stuff. Well i noticed now all my plants have these small yellow brown spots on them and some have been totaly consumed with the spots n the leaves are dried n have died. Also there curling down. I have them in pretty big pots i usually water every other day cause it gets alot of sun and the sun drys out the soil fast. I was wondering if you could save them. There about 2-3 weeks old. Thx
    also just checked me looks like the somethings draining the Chlorophyll from them. cause some of the leaves were clear
     
  2. can you answer some of these questions also look for bugs on your leaves, if they are clear or white looking you have pest issues


    ARE YOU USING?

    SOIL:
    What STRAIN are you growing?
    What was the establishing technique?
    (seed or clone?)
    What is the age of your plants?
    What PHASE
    (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
    What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)
    What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)
    What substrate/medium are you using? (percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)
    What Nutrient's are you using? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
    What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?
    What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?
    What method of pH test was administered?
    When was your last water?
    When was your last feeding?
    What size bulb are you using?
    What is the distance to the canopy?
    What is your RH Factor?
    (Relative Humidity)
    What is the canopy temperature?
    What is the Day/Night Temp?
    (Include fluctuation range)
    What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
    Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
    Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?
    Is your water HARD or SOFT?
    Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?
    Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?
    Are plant's infected with pest's?


    HYDROPONICS:

    What STRAIN are you growing?
    What was the establishing technique?
    (Were the seed or clone?)
    What is the age of your plants?
    What PHASE are the plants in?
    (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
    What Technique are you using?
    What substrate/medium are you using?
    (Hydroton, RockWool etc.)
    What is the Nutrient temperature?
    What Nutrient's are you using?
    What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using?
    What is the pH of the "Tank"?
    Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment?
    When was your last watering?
    When was your last feeding change?
    (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)
    What size bulb are you using?
    What is the distance to the canopy?
    What is your RH Factor?
    What is the canopy temperature?
    What is the Day/Night Temp?
    (Include flucutaion range)
    What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
    Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
    Is your water HARD or SOFT?
    Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched
    Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When?
    Are plant's infected with pest's
     
  3. SOIL:
    What STRAIN are you growing? idk bagseed
    What was the establishing technique? seed
    What is the age of your plants? 2-3 weeks
    What PHASE are the plants in? 2-3 weeks growing so vegetative
    What Technique are you using? outdoor growth
    What size pots are you using? 1 small one 4 med size pots n 1 large one
    What substrate/medium are you using? 50% Mgrow potting mix 50% perlite on 4 pots the rest are in just M grow potting mix
    What Nutrient's are you using? *Knowing the brand is very helpful* Mgro all plant food
    What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?
    What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?
    idk havent looked
    What method of pH test was administered? havent
    When was your last water? today i gave them more water then usualy just incase of burns from the light dose
    When was your last feeding? Weds
    What size bulb are you using? outside growth
    What is the distance to the canopy? none
    What is your RH Factor? idk
    What is the canopy temperature? dont have one
    What is the Day/Night Temp? i live in the south so about 80-90 day night 50-70
    What is the current Air Flow? idk wind ?
    Is the fan blowing directly at plants? yes i grow outdoors never seemed to hurt em b4
    Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? yes only when tops are dry
    Is your water HARD or SOFT?
    Hard
    Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? No
    Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when? Mgrow wed small dose lots of water.
    Are plant's infected with pest's? None seen Used sevin dust tho.
     
  4. lol wtf?
     
  5. Ok man spam. I need help. You are not helping so plz dont spam with noobie crap. also if u dont know anything about hard or soft water plz dont post on my thread:mad:
     
  6. Does you MG potting mix have any nutes in it? Something that says time release?
     
  7. Yes it says it will feed up to 3 months. i added some 13-13-13 pellets a hour ago should i go take it off? I thought it might need some nitrogen so i added the 3x13. not alot just a bit on the soil. still need to take it off b4 it kills the plants or?
     
  8. Even though you are growing outside, I still think the time release ferts are bad. Yes take off all fertilizer. Marijane does not need any nutes for the first 3 weeks of growth. I suspect your seedlings are being fed and are suffering from nute burn. See if stitch concurs.
     
  9. yes, your plants most definately sound like they are getting burned by nutrients in the miraclegrow soil. you need to find something WITHOUT time release nutrients that are not available in most commercial garden soils.

    Good Soil brand names that I've seen include:

    Foxfarms
    WhitneyFarms
    Oceanfarms

    etc.

    Bad Soil Brands include:

    Anything with "Time-Release-Nutrients" written ANYWHERE on the bag. In fact, anything with nutes in it are bad to start mj in as they have all the nutrients they need for the first three to five weeks of growth.

    They will die within a few days if they are burning as badly as you say so your best bet is to get them out of that soil ASAP and into a medium without nutrients and a good drink of water.
     
  10. ok ill go take out the x13 right now.
     
  11. sounds like a typical Miricle Grow grow to me.

    what is it? people have no time to fert themselves so take this shortcut?

    you dont need first for a good while even with regular potting mix, MG's slow time release crap sometimes (i should say most of the times) release it too fast.
     
  12. hmmmm idk if it is the Mgrow. Cause i used some cheap wal-mart brand topsoil on the small pot n they were doing the same as the others. But anyways i got 9 plants. I took off the x13. removed 1 inch of the top soil. Super drained em that is i used about 20 gallons of water to wash away all the extra nutrients from the soil. So they should work. ill repost in about a week to let u guys know how it goes. I would hate to lose them cause some are about 7 inches to 1 foot from the soil.
     

  13. peeps stop dissin MG produts, if you fuck up with them its the growers mistake
    ill post pics of the plants i grew using mg prodcuts, my first grow was 7 feet tall!
    growing witha 400 watt hps in a phonebooth style grow room

    the light didnt grow that plant completely you know

    mg is good soil but with the new time released ferts you cant use it bare, you have to mix it down 50/50 with a different kind of soil so its not so strong

    the only bad product made from mg you and other companies you want to stay away from is the moisture control mixtures

    they retain to much water for cannabis
     
  14. Man that moisture control shit is the worst thing ever! i mixed some with half it n half another soil n it still sucked ass! My friend had a plant and it got about 2 foot high then died b/c of root rot.
     

  15. exactly! see what i mean :)

    thats why i stated moisture control sucks lol
    it just retains way to much moisture for cannabis plants... im sure they did that on purpose lol
     

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