Septoria or Cal deficiency?

Discussion in 'Growing Marijuana Indoors' started by ___disillusion, Jan 5, 2020.

  1. Hey GC, what's up guys?

    So I'm nearing 3 weeks veg right now on my first grow, things have been going pretty well for my lack of equipment and funds until recently. Just about two days ago I noticed some spotting on my 3rd node's fan leaves. Nowhere else.

    I have tried to extensuvely research this to try to figure out a solution. Realized actually right before the spots that my feed did not have calcium or magnesium so I got the ladies some Roots Organic Elemental and that is when I noticed these bad larrys.

    What do you guys think?

    Edit: about a week ago I did a foliar spray of water, dish soap and cayenne to remove two stray aphids I spotted. 0104202025d_Film1.jpg 0104202025a_Film1.jpg 0104202025b_Film1.jpg 0104202025c_Film1.jpg 0104202027_Film1.jpg

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  2. What's your water source
    And ph levels

    Elemental is good stuff .
    If its calcium deficiency give it time to work

    I just read you sprayed with soap .
    Could be burnt .

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  3. check your maganese levels.
     
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  4. Water is from tap at a very consistent 6.5 pH tested multiple times in different ways. I figured that could be a big factor especially comsidering the 7 blades weren't out yet when I sprayed and they are fine.

    Gonna give some time to let the Elemental work and see what happens.

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  5. I watered twice with 0.05% chelated Mn. Not sure how to check the level though?

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  6. looks like excess Mn. to me id lay off. and go normal watering. you can test ppm and go by the numbers of every nuit added wich im no soil expert so i see how much of what ove added and go with proper according issue heres a pic to help out more
     

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  7. With his Manganese Tester?

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  8. no such thing as mag tester i meant by how much hes added.
     
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  9. Im guessing theres not too many home growers buying manganese & adding it to their soil.
     
  10. cograts you learnt something new today. however im not interested in your remarks.
     
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  11. I prefer mayonaise. 2 tbsp per gallon.
     
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  12. A ml of mustard too

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  13. To each their own - but I really hope you use Hellmans because that Miracle Whip tastes like ass.

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  14. I did! My brother hooked me up with an excellent fresh Thai curry paste recipe earlier to break in my new mortar and pestle -

    Wait... did you mean - here?

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  15. Wow that chart is actually pretty nice... I have been using another one that is not nearly as detailed.

    I actually cut all of my nutrients all together for the time being besides top dressing with Elemental because I have seen signs of n-tox as well. I am absolutely guilty of over-feeding.

    Hopefully it doesn't spread... This one is my nicest plant.

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  16. This may or may not interest you but just figured I’d throw it out there as an optional gardening method - and if not then just disregard. It personally took me over 20 years of chasing assorted “deficiencies” before I said “I’ve just had enough” and took the leap -

    what I’m referring to is organic gardening:

    1. No bottled nutrients
    2. No checking PPM’s or TDS of any kind -
    3. No checking or adjusting pH
    4. No “flushing”
    5. Never, ever a “deficiency”
    6. No special “Veg” or “Flower” nutrients - imagine that?
    7. Simple, tap water used to keep your soil moist once or twice a week depending on your container size.
    8. Insanely healthy and vibrant plant growth

    This is achieved by the ridiculously easy method of buying a few basic components and mixing your own soil from scratch - stupid easy to do and can be used on all plants in all stages of plant growth - a soil based on quality compost and Vermicompost, several basic organic soil amendments and aeration is added and the soil is set aside for 3-5 weeks in a warm location to allow the soil microbes contained in the compost and vermicompost to spread and break down the various organic soil amendments added into their basic elemental forms which can then be used as plant food -

    Long story short; anything needed is added in the beginning during soil construction for your plants to thrive from start to finish.

    This is ridiculously easy. 99% of soil manufacturers add a minimal of nutrition to their mixes to force the gardener to have to go out and buy additional bottles of nutrients. This is bypassed by you adding everything in the beginning.

    YOU CAN MAKE MUCH, MUCH BETTER SOIL THAN YOU COULD EVER DREAM OF BUYING.

    Some basic reading - if you’re interested.

    No-Till Gardening: Revisited

    Easy Organic Soil Mix for Beginners

    Indoor gardening without bottled nutrients

    If you did decide that this would interest you, get back to me and I could help further.

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  17. Believe it or not, I actually have been reading those threads for some time now, haha. The only reason I didnt try it for this grow is because of funds. I just purchased a house, but didn't want to wait so just used some soil I still had leftover from when I planted some sunflowers with my girlfriend last year.

    This no-till soil is something I absolutely want to try though. I'm actually wanting to attempt most all styles of growing so that I can choose what I like best and continue. I have one of your recipes written in my grow information book actually, lol.

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  18. Let me know if I can be of further help.

    For what its worth, an organic soil can be considerably less expensive than a bottled nutrient grow once everything is figured in - and a basic organic soil can utilize a half dozen items and work great.

    Also, never really a need to wait. A mix only very lightly fertilized with organic amendments to get your plants started while the main batch nutrient cycles.

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  19. My only is problem is that I live in the middle of nowhere...

    The only store around only carries perlite, vermiculite and kelp meal. Everything is liquid organic fert which is only FF Big Bloom and they have pre-made soil as in FF Light Warrior and Happy Frog aside from ProMix BX.

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  20. Ive gotta get up early but I’ll guarantee youve got what you need nearby - this does NOT need to be anything complicated whatsoever - even though many make it out to be.

    lets talk tomorrow - If you’re interested that is.

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