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Second Grow - Fuckups all the way

Discussion in 'Growing Organic Marijuana' started by ka_tet3tr, Apr 22, 2020.

  1. #1 ka_tet3tr, Apr 22, 2020
    After my first grow which was pretty painless and successful till the end of the process, I re-amended my organic soil and started my second grow.

    Well, nothing has gone like my previous grow so far. First it seemed like it was stalling, then I got light burns lately and immediately toned down my QB which is not even that close to plants.

    I think somehow I did something wrong when I was reamending the soil, maybe I put more humus than I was supposed I don't know, I really thought I calculated the amounts correct but here we are.

    Today is V58. I mean should I even continue, do you guys think these are salvageable?

    Temps around 75F, humidity 55%
    240w qb

    2x 5gal Mandarin Cookies

    Watering them every 3 days with tap/bottled water mix which is exactly what I did on my first grow as it's organic soil.

    Seeds were different on my first grow, I mean it can't be just the genetics, right? I tried LST as much as I can, but it's growing so slow, I don't know what to do anymore.

    Regarding soil:

    Original soil was prepared according to Easy Organic Soil Mix for Beginners 7 months ago

    For 1 cubic foot soil

    1/2 part peat moss
    1/2 part humus
    1/2 part perlite
    1 cup lime
    1 cup kelp meal
    1.5 cups dry organic fertilizer
    4 cups of your rock dust

    Mix was cooked for 5 weeks. First grow was great. Had zero problems. I just watered this soil with tap/bottled water mix.

    In the same page under re-using organic soil, to amend the soil lightly it says;

    additional humus 1 part humus to 4 parts old soil. (1 part equals 5 gal) I had 2x 5gal soil (2 parts), so I added 1/2 part humus (2.5 gals)

    additional perlite ''add about half as much additional aeration amendment as you do additional humus''
    so I added 1/4 part perlite

    kelp meal: it says ''1 cup per cubic foot of soil.'' I adjusted this measure according my soil amount.

    dry organic fertilizer: about 1/4-1/2 cup per cubic foot.
    liming amendment: approximately 1/4 cup liming amendment per cubic foot of soil

    First I was watering every 4 days, now every 3 days according to the weight of the pot.

    On first grow, I was watering every 3 days. I could easily dipped my finger and feel the dryness. Now I'm also watering every 3 days. I'm taking the pot and feeling the weight, it feels way lighter. But from the beginning of this second grow, I've never been able to understand how dry it gets by dipping my finder into soil. Because it feels always moist even though the weight of the pot is obviously very light. I mean it gets really heavy after watering.
    It's like humus is not getting dry, but then how come the weight of the pot is getting that light.

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  2. #2 Mr. Handy, Apr 22, 2020
    I haven't mixed this exact soil before but I would guess the ladies are just underfed. Definitely could use nitrogen from the paleness.
     
  3. #3 Skunk_e_Bud, Apr 22, 2020
    I think you need more biology. I'd suggest top dressing with earthworm castings and water in with a compost tea. It's difficult to tell what is going wrong, but in my experience, no problem is too large for biology.

    Totally salvageable, should bounce right back.

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  4. #4 falconfalcon31, Apr 22, 2020
    I'm with those guys and additionally I think you're under watering possibly. Don't bother sticking your finger in there - use the weight. Weight doesn't lie - your ability to sense moisture could. Also what are temps? my room is at 75-80F and those size plants and pots would drink 1-3 quarts daily for me if all was well. Give a EWC slurry as suggested. If you feel you can't tell by weight get a good moisture meter until you figure it out.
     
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  5. #5 Taoist Farmer, Apr 23, 2020
    If your pots feel light start watering every other day with some aloe juice mixed in, organic soil needs to stay moist to stay alive.
     
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  6. #6 CrazyGardener, Apr 24, 2020
    Thank you for a quote I plan to repeat often:
    "No problem is too large for biology."
    That's some wisdom right there.

    I stumbled upon this thread while looking for information on adding aloe to my watering. Score! Chopped some off, into food processor with some water. Whirl. Dilute into watering can.

    I'm subbed in.
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  7. #7 PaddysBuds, Apr 24, 2020
    Do you know the ph of your soil? My guess is lock out ,considering the whole plant is yellowing instead of the undercarriage .

    Also that soil looks very compact , so much so your fabric pot is peeling away from the soil when wet .

    This is just my guess though , not gospel .
    Best of luck


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  8. #8 ElRanchoDeluxe, Apr 24, 2020
    There is no shame in mixing up soil and only using it for a single run. Once you have a soil mix that works for you it’s the most reliable and foolproof way to go. With a new soil mix that you’ve used before you can listen to that voice in your head that says “I know this will work”. Or you recycle it and hear that voice that says “I don’t know, but I hope this works”.

    At the same time you can also recycle your old mix and gain experience. Imagine what would have happened if one of your plants was in fresh soil mix and the other in recycled? Or better yet, both were in a fresh mix and you also put a plant in a 1 gallon container of recycled mix?
    Adding liming agents to a recycled mix should really only be done if you are also adding an acidic material along with it or if for some reason the pH of your mix is low. I also think adding 1 cup per cf of kelp on a recycled mix is heavy handed.

    If you really want to use a recycled mix no matter what, the safest thing to do is nothing at all. This will provide you with the knowledge of working with teas, topdressing, and how to read your plants. Usually the worst case scenario is your plants may fade early and yield may be reduced a bit. Remember it’s far easier to add than to take away when we add things to our mix.
    HTH
    RD
     
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