Sandy, Evan, Oswald... Weather Warfare?

Discussion in 'General' started by subhumn, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. I have been doing quite a lot of research into weather and environmental modification and I would like to invite people to read the articles provided. I believe that Sandy, Evan and Oswald may have been manufactured.

    Article #1: The unusual nature of Hurricane Sandy

    Governments are using and testing weather modification technology without our knowledge. This is due to the fact that ENMOD banned the use and not the research or possession of environmental modification techniques. The problem we have is that it is easy to cheat this prohibition. Weather modification has no source. You know someone is responsible when something gets bombed, but how do we know someone is responsible if a city gets flooded?

    Article #2: Why am I so concerned?

    NASA states that:

    “Even small changes in the abundance or location of clouds could change the climate more than the anticipated changes caused by greenhouse gases, human-produced aerosols, or other factors associated with global change.“

    Weather modification has a great deal more of an effect on climate then carbon. Why isn't this effect discussed publicly? Why isn't the effect of weather modification on climate part of the climate change debate?

    Article #3: Cyclone Evan and the Carbon Conspiracy

    Article #4: Cyclone Oswald and ENMOD

    It is important that we expose the effect of weather and environmental modification on our planet. In time we could expose the unusual nature of storms and then possibility that storms may be manufactured. I am sure we could do this slowly, without pointing fingers, without starting war, but I think we need to do it now. The longer it takes, the worse it gets.
  2. Hi, I'm from Florida.
    I've seen a lot of hurricanes, tropical storms, and tropical depressions in my time. I know all of the science behind it, and a lot of the history.
    I didn't read your post/articles, but the title was enough for me.
    I would like to give my response: No.
    Have a nice day. 
  3. #3 subhumn, Jun 1, 2013
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    In April 1997, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen stated in a United States Department of Defense news briefing that:
    (Source: Department of Defense News Briefing: Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen)
    <blockquote>“Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.”
    Convention on the Prohibition of Military or any other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques – United Nations Treaty (Signed in Geneva May 18, 1977)
    The treaty created a list of phenomena that could result from the use of environmental modification techniques (this list is sourced from the United Nations Treaty above):
    “earthquakes and tsunamis; an upset in the ecological balance of a region; changes in weather patterns (clouds, precipitation, cyclones and tornadic storms); changes in climate patterns; changes in ozone currents; changes in the state of the ozone layer and changes in the state of the ionosphere.”
    Marc Filterman, a former French military officer, outlines several types of “unconventional weapons” using radio frequencies. He refers to “weather war,” indicating that the U.S. and the Soviet Union had already:
    <blockquote>“mastered the know-how needed to unleash sudden climate changes (hurricanes, drought) in the early 1980s.”(3) These technologies make it “possible to trigger atmospheric disturbances by using Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) radar [waves].”
    </blockquote>Sourced: (Marc Filterman, Intelligence Newsletter, (December 16, 1999) ( /
    “Malaysia to Battle Smog With Cyclones“, by Chen May Yee, Staff Reporter of the Wall Street Journal, The Wall Street Journal, Thursday, November 13, 1997, page A19.
    “KULA LUMPUR - Malaysia's war on smog is about to get a new twist. The government wants to create man-made cyclones to scrub away the haze that has plagued Malaysia since July. ‘We will use special technology to create an artificial cyclone to clean the air', said Datuk Law Hieng Ding, minister for science, technology and the environment. The plan calls for the use of new Russian technology to create cyclones - the giant storms also known as typhoons and hurricanes - to cause torrential rains, washing the smoke out of the air. The Malaysian cabinet and the finance minister have approved the plan, Datuk Law said. A Malaysian company, BioCure Sdn. Bhd., will sign a memorandum of understanding soon with a government-owned Russian party to produce the cyclone. “Datuk Law declined to disclose the size of the cyclone to be generated, or the mechanism. ‘The details I don't have', he said. He did say, though, that the cyclone generated would be ‘quite strong'. Datuk Law also declined to disclose the price of creating the cyclone.”
    Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025 – (Research paper presented to the United States Air Force)
    <blockquote>“Weather modification offers the war fighter a wide range of possible options to defeat or coerce an adversary… Weather modification will become a part of domestic and international security and could be done unilaterally… It could have offensive and defensive applications and even be used for deterrence purposes. The ability to generate precipitation, fog and storms on earth or to modify space weather… and the production of artificial weather all are a part of an integrated set of military technologies.”
    Beware the US Military's experiments with Climatic Warfare – Michel Chossudovsky (Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and editor at the Centre for Research on Globalization,
    “‘Climatic warfare' potentially threatens the future of humanity, but has casually been excluded from the reports for which the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) received the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.”
    The evidence is there...
  4. Thanks for the copypasta, it was delicious.
    Welcome to the forums, by the way. I'm sure we'll enjoy your presence.
    My counter-reply is as follows: No.
    No problemo, ill give you some more copypasta regarding the unusual nature of Sandy. Hurricane Sandy was a weather anomaly and had many unusual occurrences which are sourced on the website provided...
    #1 – Hurricane Sandy was the largest Atlantic hurricane ever recorded. (as measured by diameter with winds spanning 1,100 miles (1,800 km)).

    #2 – If you look at the topography, when the storm reaches North America it continues to stay the around the same distance away from the coastline. (It is very rare that coastline effects the path of a storm. It seems that coastline had a lot to play in the track of this storm. Note the size of the North American coastline and this sheer distance of coastline that effected Super-storm Sandy).

    #3 – The storm curves with with the coastline of North Carolina, South Carolina and Florida. (Once again, it is very rare that coastline effects the path of a storm, let alone curves with the coastline of a continent).

    #4 – The storm speeds up just as it heads for New Jersey. (From the start, the storm moved at a steady rate and then just before the major catastrophe of the storm, it speeds up, just before it circles New York City).

    #5 – The storm moves in a circle around New York City (New York City is the business capital of the United States and the world. New York City would be the most likely place for an attack. United States is where the Twin Towers were destroyed on September 11, 2001).

    More unusual occurrences and coincidences.

    #6 – Hurricane Sandy is the largest Atlantic hurricane ever recorded and it hits late in the hurricane season. (You would think that the largest hurricane ever recorded would hit in peak period).

    #7 – This hurricane is very far north in comparison to other Atlantic hurricanes. (Most Atlantic hurricanes hit Florida and very rarely go any further. If hurricanes do go any further, they usually head from west to east because the prevailing winds blow that direction. What happened with Hurricane Sandy was the complete opposite).

    #8 – Sandy had the biggest storm surge ever seen. (The storm surge of Sandy has created some of the worst flooding from a hurricane in a very long time).

    #9 – Hurricane Sandy is very fast for a hurricane. (So, Hurricane Sandy is the largest in diameter, its very fast for a hurricane, its not at the right time, its very far north for a hurricane and had the worst flooding from a hurricane in a very long time. Too many coincidences for me to accept that this storm is a natural creation).

    #10 – Forecasters labeled Hurricane Sandy “Frankenstorm“… If you remember “Frankenstein” was created, he was not born, he was manufactured.

    #11 – Hurricane Sandy sped up just before New Jersey, just before the major catastrophe of the storm. It is very coincidental that Hurricane Sandy was dubbed Frankenstorm the same day the National Weather Service predicted the storm would make landfall in New Jersey.

    #12 – Sandy had the most kinetic energy of all tropical cyclones on record at 222 trillion Joules (the equivalent of 3.5 Little Boy Hiroshima atomic bombs).
  6. #6 Deleted member 42976, Jun 1, 2013
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    I've heard a lot about HAARP and know they say they can steer a hurricane with it but manufacturing them i kind of doubt it. hurricanes happen every year or they wouldn't have a hurricane season. I find it pathetic that since HAARP came out people believe every natural disaster was caused by it, that's a little ridiculous. These types of events have been happening since this planet was created.
  7. OP cannot be serious.  First of all, I'm a meteorologist in training and we laugh at people like you.  You haven't got a clue what you're talking about.  
    #1: Sandy was not the largest hurricane ever recorded, it had the largest wind field.  Why?  Look up the affects of the +/-NAO, +/-AO, ENSO and other teleconnections on the development of tropical systems and the effects on their storm track.
    #2:  It is very rare that a coastline affects a storm?  Oh, I didn't know that.  Wait a minute....because it isn't true.  Sounds like you pulled that one out of your ass.  There is a large temperature change between the ocean and the coast/inner coast.  Do you know what the jet stream is, btw?  Look it up.  It steers weather systems, including sandy.  (in addition with the value of the NAO.)
    #3:  See #2.  The NAO and the PJ squeezed the storm right up the coast (which happens all the fucking time, genius)
    #4:  Do you know what causes a storm like Sandy to speed up?  Not haarp.  Fucking ocean temperature, the amount of instability (which was extreme due to temp and solar radiation anomalies)
    #5:   Do you know anything about probability?
    #6:  Why would anyone think that?  The storms formation and intensity is NOT a function of the month.  It is a function of hundreds of variables that you have no idea about.
    #7:  Are you serious?  Seriously, are you serious.  I'm getting tired of addressing complete nonsense points like this.  Conspiracy theorist ignorance and blind pointless hate for America is the only explanation I have for this one.
    #8:  Big fuckin' deal, it wasn't as high as numerous other storms, so what makes this so unusual?  Nothing.  Do you know what hurricanes do?  Oh yeah, storm surge.
    #9:  Once again, you have to look at what drives themotion of storms.  The size of it has no bearing on it's motion.  It's not some fat guy trying to run, it is a bunch of ultralight fluid and water spinning around due to the forces of nature.
    #10:  Because it WAS usual - the merging, the large wind span, the pressure.  It was a gimmick.  When snowmaggedon hit, what do you think they were trying to kill us with an asteroid and fucked up and hit the snow button instead?
    #11:  I already addressed this and number 12
    Get a life kid
  8. Humans aren't smart enough to control weather and keep it secret.

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