my whole grow was going perfect until about 2 weeks ago when i started to see stunted growth, mild stretching and the tops of the plants started to turn light green, also new growth is smaller and claw like. so i figured out that my plants were rootbound and i just transplanted from 1gallon to 4gallon pots. all the plants im sure were rootbound but the plant with the discolored large fan leaves is what im worried about. anyone know if thats just from the plant being rootbound or over ferted? also, is the light green and claw like small growth, symptoms of rootbound plants? if i let them veg for a couple more weeks will they get better? i know i should wait a weed or two after transplanting to start flowering anyways. im kinda worried that it all might be due to rootbound and maybe MG deficiency. do you guys think they will recover? either way im going to flower in a week and a half, i just want to know if there is anything i can do to make things a little better before i flower. thanks for any and all help guys, peace.
just some more pics. the smaller pots you see on the first pic were the pots they were in before the transplant, which was 3 days ago :S
bump cause I wanna see a pro answer here as well. It LOOKS like N deficiency due to yellow leaves and red stems on affected leaves, as well as possible MG deficiency according to the brown spots...I had these same deficiencies pop up as well OP, would be very interested to know if rootbinding is the culprit to blame.
im having the same issue, just to make sure.... red stems towards the top of the plant on the fan leaves? yellowing and rust spots on the bottom older leaves? i was told it appeared like both a P and K deficiency. are you in flower cycle? maybe you could give her a good feeding? im just throwing those ideas out there cause thats what happend to me. get back to us, what nutes are you using and how often are you feeding?
npk is 12/4/8 i feed every two weeks. i just fed them right after transplant at 1/4 strength ferts. dont need to feed, maybe need to flush? i know you can help MG def. with epson salt and water mix, but i have no idea how to deal with N def. no idea how to fix P or K def. either. if thats what it is. but im posative that rootbound has so much to do with it, they were crazy rootbound for about 2 weeks before i transplanted. maybe this locks out certian types of nutrients im not sure. this is only my second grow and ive learned so much already.
It's a Phosphorous def. P only uptakes in the 6.5-7.0 range, it won't absorbe from a nute bottle if you have a ph below 6.5... and you might have casued a drop in ph by overwatering when you transplanted, it's easy to do.
do you think that what caused the P def. is because it was rootbound which resulted in nutes not getting absorbed through the roots? because they were PERFECT until they until 2 weeks ago when they started showing stress and yellowing, maybe if i transplanted sooner this never would have happened. i guess im wondering if being rootbound makes the plant not absorb as much ferts/ nutes
also, how do i fix this shit?!?!?!?!!!? i want to flower within the next week or so.... any ideas would be AWESOME!!!!!
No, rootboaund plants NEVER show signs of deficiency, i have some OLD mom's, bonzi style and well very very root bound... they are just fine. It wasn't the roots, you probably have either not enough P in your soil, which i doubt as you just transplanted into new soil, or your PH is too low. P only uptakes at a ph or 6.5 to 7.0 and if your soil is below 6.5 you have locked it out. Soggy soil drops in ph, maybe you overzelously feed them with nute water solution at the first sign of problems? If your soil IS'NT soggy, and it's normal by the feel of your hand, then maybe you need to feed them something with more P in it, your nute bottle needs to have a decent amount of it in there. Do you have a bottle of something with some decent amount of P in it? It's hard to tell someone what to do if you don't really know what they did to cause the problem. I would really evaluate the wetness level of your soil first, it's the number one noob problem, overwatering and creating a ph problem with it.
i only have walmart store bought ferts. is there something that you would recomend to bring the ph/ N levels up in my soil?
you could try to find an all N fert most people will tell you to stay away from mirical grow but i know they have an organic all N 8-0-0 fert that i picked up just in case i need a bigger dose of Nitrogen. Me personally, i cant imagine that there is any thing seriously wrong with mirical grow products when it comes to ferts, there soil can be troublesome cause they add slow release nutes to it, but i know that walmart or home depot would have that in stock. now moving on from that, the other poster Skunk Patronous said that its a P deficiecny. i would follow his words and get a ph Pen by hanna or a water type test kit to check the run off water cause hes very right in what he said, you need to get the Ph right or you wont get the proper uptake of essential nutrients to support the plant/s
Your plants looks extremely hungry, they are showing multiple defs which usually means you're not feeding them enough. First and foremost get a ph pen, you're flying blind without one. Make sure you are in range and feed those plants!
skunk and ed are right. I've been dealing with countless problems over the last week--I made sure my pH runoff was a 6.5 or a bit above and VOILA! Problems going away and plants improving. Sometimes it can take a while I think. I stopped using bad water and it took almost 1.5 weeks to show improvements with my plants. It's hard to wait, and you'll want to remedy it with other things, but as long as you're using water with a 6.5-6.8 pH with proper PPM you'll do just fine.
yea im using walmart brand distilled water and it does have a low ph, im pretty sure that my ph is off which is making my plant not get the nutes it needs. im getting ready to flush them and to check the ph. im pretty sure the result will be that the ph is too low. so i was wondering how i can increase the ph without having to repot because im getting close to flowering. i had a few ideas, tell me if they are good please. i thought hmmm, i have dolomite lime in fine powder form, maybe if i mix some in with my water when i flush that might help fix it. i just dont know how much to put in my water, like a cup per gallon... or per quart, i have no idea ill have to experiment. also i thought that maybe this might take longer but would be easier on the plant. what if i just brush off the top layer of soil and sprinkle the dolomite lime on the top layer, that way when i water it will seep into the soil and start to help. any more ideas would be awesome guys thank you all so much for your help.
my lil bro just did some experimenting and with 1/8 teaspoon per 1/2 gallon of water to sabalize the waters ph to 7. do you think this would be a good mixture to water my plants with? let me know what you guys think.
If you use a cup or quart of lime per gallon of water you'll kill the plant Your best bet is apply a tbsp per gallon of soil on the top of the soil and work it in some. Then water. But again, you really should invest in a ph meter so you know what's going on in there. The lime is a good tool to use in the mean time.