I am referring to tobacco, but you're welcome to post about your adventures in rolling joints as well. I'm not much of a blunt smoker as I've posted in some threads on the subject, but I am very much in love with the art of rolling perfectly cylindrical cigarettes, joints, and spliffs. I can't stand most rolling machines out there because i can easily roll better smokes and I also prefer to roll slimmer cigarettes because I use DRUM rolling tobacco, which is VERY dark and more potent than even most rolling tobaccos I encounter (cept for American Spirit, but I don't like the flavor of the Spirits). But I also just enjoy the slightly more sophisticated feeling of holding a slimmer j or cig (which is why when I buy pre-rolled I usually go with Nat Shermans, but those are too expensive for regular purchase/consumption). For those of you who buy pre rolled brands like Marlboro, Camels, Chesterfields, or pretty much any other, I want you to know that if you roll your own you will save MAD money on cigarettes. First and foremost, in the states, rolling tobacco usually runs for 1.25 oz. for 3.50 bucks plus tax plus tobacco tax. Now, most rolling tobaccos come with rolling papers, but some states don't issue papers with them, so you may need to buy your own. These are usually the short wimpy kind, but they roll a nice simple smoke and are easier to roll than the wider varieties. I stick with 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 in. rolling papers and I try to use the thinnest papers I can find. I'd prefer to find some RAW papers, but Hempire is the closest I can find and it works rather nicely, barely adds any flavor and burns smooth. Hempire's harder on joints in my opinion due to its thin consistency. ANYWAYS, in addition to this, rolling tobacco is cured and processed better for a more distinct tobacco flavor and is much more prominent than Marlboro or Camels which taste adulterated and like paper to me, I can't have those now, they just taste really really chemical. Not only that, but rolling tobacco also is much more potent in the nicotine amount and thusly, you smoke less. You can roll a filter into the smoke, but it's much harder to roll and the cigarette never quite draws right. Anyways, one way or another, you smoke less, not necesasrily healthier, but something to consider when your sucking through a second smoke in one session, which I can't do with rolled tobacco. Anyways, I'll post pics of my seven hempire DRUM tobacco cigs later once I get to a better computer. They are pretty much perfectly cylindrical slims, unfiltered. I would have rolled more but I ran out of hempire papers because I used alot of them on joints for the past two months.