Right of Secession

Yes, people should be able to live independant of a government and society if they so choose. I don't believe anyone has the right to say "You must stay here, you're not allowed to leave. You're here and you play by our rules, against your will - we know what's best for you though, so it's all good!"

That said, my sentiment more runs on the individual - there should never be a problem with an individual, their family or whoever else leaving the state to do their own thing. I can see problems with groups with questionable agendas seceeding. It's like others have said, it's an easy way out of society telling them that it's unacceptable for, say, a cult to indoctrinate their children into participating in sex rituals - or for a militant politica/religious group to seceede who very clearly want to invade and take over. I mean, I don't believe we should supress them and their beliefs/lifestyles, but having a mass of violent revolutionaries using secession as a base to literally build their base!

So, yes, I definately think you should be able to seceede - but there are circumstantial limits that would be unacceptable...

 

People should be able to do what they want so if they can gather together and secede go ahead.

But it shouldn't be viewed as a right, more like a responsibility. But at the same time you'd have to be responsible about using it. It's like nuclear arms codes: you can push the button and wipe the slate clean, but you better know the consequences first.

At this point in our collective career I don't think humans can handle the responsibility of secession.

 

Mr. Penelope and I will be seceding to Belize or Costa Rica in a few years.

 

You make a valid point... I would think that if you want to go off and do your own thing, that's all good - you're not entitled to Government services though. Think of the person as a bit like a pioneer, a hermit or whatever. They're leaving society to do their own thing, that means leaving behind the good things provided by society with the bad things driving you from society. However, my take on this is going to be different to other people's on here, because I have a different belief in what the 'state' should do and provide (libertarian socialist), so what I say and mean certainly doesn't represent 'you guys' around here.

 

Yes.



























That is all.

 

all people have the right to self determination. the state is a slave owner.

 

It wouldn't be a "union" if it wasn't voluntary.

Though I think the other States should step in and try and solve the matter. I also think that if the succeeding state was beating children, the other states should step in and say, "that shit is fucked up, you better fucking stop that shit."

I, however, do not think that that role is better applied to a single "Federal Government" because that type of disconnection leaves a small amount of people with a large amount of power. States having to agree checks and balances. There should not technically be a "Federal Government," there should only be states working together in order to achieve the minute actions desirable by a "Federal Government".

 

huhwhatcantreadthatmushmouthtalk

 

Secession is treasonous. Suddenly a state can seperate from the "United" States and make itself an enemy of America if it so chooses.

I'm all for state rights being respected but allowing random states to secede is like turning America into divided colonies that can't compete on a global scale. You're moving backwards.

 

What happens when you don't like the new leaders in your state and the new shitty laws being enforced by your state government?

You can't move to another state without going through the immigration system.

What a nightmare that could become. You'd be fucked.

 

In a purely free society, human beings would have the right to prevent this type of ownership.

 

If I don't like one state's direction or rules I can freely move to another.

Too bad you guys take this completely for granted.

Fight for state rights not secession.

 

I voted yes, but I view secession as a tool for expressing your rights rather than a right in itself.


Assuming a human being has the right to resist oppression, I condone any act not based on aggression as a proper means of procuring freedom. If secession is the route a group of people wants to take in order to resist oppression, then I say let them do it.


I don't see why a seceded state would need to give up interactions with the government it seceded from. Give them no power over that government for sure, but there is no need to cut off relations with those people all together.

 

Wow, 87% of people voted for getting stuck in a state they might end up hating.

Damn grasscity.

 

Well, if the seceded state/s actually follows the Constitution, instead of just pretending it was a pretty piece of paper, but not really worth following the ideals our forefathers laid out in it, this wouldn't become a problem...

 

Why would they be stuck?