Resolving issues before transplanting

Discussion in 'Sick Plants and Problems' started by Fostergick, Jun 7, 2023.

  1. my Zkittlez going on 94days. im transplanting her to a 10gal Fabric pot from a 5. I’m still trying to figure my shit out but I believe she’s rootbound . Never looks happy and watering every other day is what I’m going by. I didn’t mean to go this long wont bore anyone with the details. I’m ready to flip to 12s and figured 1-2 weeks after transplanting would be fine based on how she looks. Anyone have any tips or advice on my scenario. I also could bring her outside to finish but worried that would really throw her off. Any feedback is greatly appreciated. I’m growing in foxfarm happy frog soil and would be using the same.
     

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  2. its all in the boring details!

    I'd clear the nute burn before potting up or better add 50% perlite or clean river sand to the soil mix
    then 2 weeks later a light feed of calmag and (K) +(P)
    as I always advise adding perlite to any FFOF grow
    looking good

    good luck
     
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  3. Fox Farm happy frog is not soil........................its compost ORGANIC matter.. not earth.
    Most bagged potting soils are actually Soil less,.
    Compost soaks water like sponge, your issues are most likely cause by pour drainage
     
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  4. So they are lying by labeling it soil? It has minerals in it so its gotta be classified as soil. :watching:
     
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    UNDER THE SOLANO SUN
    Seasonal observations of the UCCE Master Gardeners


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    All Bagged Soils are Not Equal
    Published on: April 29, 2019

    Now that spring is here, the garden centers are adverting, potting soil, garden soil, and other bagged soils on sale. But be aware that not all packaged soils are the same. There are generally some basic differences between the types of soils, and in the different types of similar soils and ratios of contents. Let's first take a look at the different types of bagged soils you'll encounter. Note that there are no legal definitions for the various types of bagged soil, so it's important to read what's in the bag to make sure you're purchasing what you believe is in the bag, and it is what you want.

    Potting soil. Bagged potting soil usually does not contain dirt. Generally used for container gardening, it usually is a mix of peat moss, composted pine bark, and some other organic materials. Water drains out from potting soil easily.

    Garden soil. Garden soil usually contains a percentage of dirt in it. It retains water and is used for in-ground planting.

    Topsoil. Topsoil is technically the upper ten to twelve inches of soil. Thus the natural topsoil ranges depending upon location. As stated earlier, because there is no legal definition for bagged topsoil, what's in the bag can vary greatly. Bagged topsoil can be clay or sand or loam or other types of soil mixed with compost and or fertilizer. Never make any assumptions regarding what's in a bag labeled as “topsoil.” You need to read the contents on the bag.

    Seed starting mix. These mixes generally have no dirt and have a finer texture than potting soil. These mixes usually contain peat moss, perlite and/or vermiculite and coconut coir fiber.

    Planting mix. These mixes are usually targeted for growing shrubs or trees and contain extended-release fertilizers. They frequently can contain peat moss, bark, and loamy soil

    Happy Frog® Soil Conditioner - FoxFarm Soil & Fertilizer Company
    Is considered a soil conditioner read the front of the bag

    Potting soil - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potting_soil
    Potting soil or growing media, also known as potting mix or potting compost (UK), is a substrate used to grow plants in containers. The first recorded use of the term is from an 1861 issue of the American Agriculturist. Despite its name, little or no soil is usually used in potting soil. See more
     
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  6. YEP that pretty much it :love-m3j:
     
  7. What is Potting Soil : Interesting Facts That You Should Know - Soil Minerals : Everything about Soil, Plants, Gardening, Lawns,
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    HOMESOIL FACTSWHAT IS POTTING SOIL : INTERESTING FACTS THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW
    What is Potting Soil : Interesting Facts That You Should Know
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    have you ever wondered what is Potting soil? Did you know that Potting soil has little or does not contain soil at all?
    Yes, potting soil is specially made for plants that grow in containers either indoors or outdoors. The contents in the soil should be changed according to the type of plant and vegetable that will be grown in the pot. Knowing the right soil mix will help you to give your plant the best performance. In this article, you will learn more information about potting soil, Mix, Use, and many differences.

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    What is Potting Soil?
    Potting soil is used for many soil types, specially designed for plants and vegetables in pots and containers. The soil is lightweight and fluffy but also holds moisture with its potting mixes.nIn simple words, Potting soil is Potting Mix with soil The potting mix contains Perlite, Peat moss, Fine barks, vermiculite, and compost. The soil mix can be done according to what plant is to be grown in the pot.

    What are the Uses of Potting Soil?
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    The primary use of potting soil is for potted and container-grown plants and vegetables. The best use is for seedings.

    What is the potting soil made of?
    • Little or no soil.
    • Perlite helps in collecting the excess water in the soil.
    • Peat moss is used for acid-loving plants and provides water retention along with good air space.
    • Barks come from paper waste. With this, the life of Potting soil is extended.
      Compost is made from recycled plants and food waste.
    • Vermiculite helps in holding nutrients in the root of the plant.
      Coir from coconut husks acts as a good fertilizer.
    • Pumice is volcanic ash, a lightweight concrete used to add extra porous to the soil.
    • Mineral and organic matter: Plant waste such as leaves, twigs, and such. Animal waste such as cow dunk and pet waste.
     
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  8. I'm still lost on your point / perspective. But first to make sure we're on the same page on happy frog......there is happy frog soil, and happy frog conditioner, where the former can be direct planted and the latter is an "amendment"

    Can you better explain your position. Bagged soil isn't soil because it doesn't have dirt?

    What is the difference between dirt and soil?

    The Soil Science Society of America defines dirt as "displaced soil." This means that dirt is soil that has been moved from its original location. For example, dirt that has been dug up from a garden or construction site is considered dirt.

    There are a few reasons why scientists might distinguish between soil and dirt. First, dirt is often less fertile than soil that has not been disturbed. This is because the biological activity in dirt is disrupted when the soil is moved. Second, dirt is more likely to contain pollutants than soil that has not been disturbed. This is because dirt can pick up pollutants from the surrounding environment, such as from construction sites or roadways.

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  9. Guess we don't agree , nothing new
    There is little to no soil in potting soil and its repeated over and over
     
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  10. what is soil? Im trying to understand.
     
  11. Ya gotta make your own!
    :metal::passing-joint:
     
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  12. Still trying to understand what point you're trying to make. Are you just debating semantics and definitions or is there an actual intelligent reasoning to your mantra that potting soil isn't soil.
     
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  13. Again I ask. What's the point you're trying to make on this topic that bagged soil isn't soil.

    Is there one or are you just talking semantics?
     
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  14. Soil, commonly referred to as dirt or earth, is a mixture of organic matter, minerals, gases, liquids, and organisms that together support life of plants and soil organisms. Some scientific definitions distinguish dirt from soil by restricting the former term specifically to displaced soil.

    Soil consists of a solid phase of minerals and organic matter (the soil matrix), as well as a porous phase that holds gases (the soil atmosphere) and water (the soil solution).[1][2] Accordingly, soil is a three-state system of solids, liquids, and gases.[3] Soil is a product of several factors: the influence of climate, relief (elevation, orientation, and slope of terrain), organisms, and the soil's parent materials (original minerals) interacting over time.[4] It continually undergoes development by way of numerous physical, chemical and biological processes, which include weathering with associated erosion.[5] Given its complexity and strong internal connectedness, soil ecologists regard soil as an ecosystem.[6]
     
  15. Based on above definition, potting soil is soil.
     
  16. Now that we have that settled. :GettingStoned: So U can grow shit in it? I'm glad that soil/dirt question has been addressed. :rolleyes:
     

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