Removal and Destruction of Statues and Monuments

Discussion in 'Politics' started by garrison68, Jun 23, 2020.

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  1. "The boogeyman under the bed is coming to get you" nonsense again.

    "The only thing that can save America is voting republican". Jesus Trump and his army of propagandists are getting really desperate now.

    I don't agree with destroying all of these monuments but I do see where those that want them removed are coming from. Stick them in a museum or somewhere out of sight. The US belongs to the American people not Fucker Carlson, Fox News or Trump. If the people want them out of their everyday sight then they are entitled to have them out of view and in a museum, etc...
     
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  2. i know you wouldn't mind if all the historical sites and statues in ireland were destroyed but i imagine many of your countrymen would.

    why dont you give it a break? i cant speak for the rest of my countrymen but i took an oath to protect my country from all enemies foreign and domestic. there are tens of millions living here with same attitude.

    if 13% of the US population thinks THEY are going to take control of our government and our country they are going to be woefully surprised and in some serious pain if "this thing" isnt stopped. the MB's pursuing and pushing marxist BLM and antifa must be stopped. i think that time is coming. once THAT process starts it's going to be real bad to be in America. jmo.

    people of color really need to be paying attention. "whitey" isnt keeping you down, the MB and the NOI is pushing you up and forward to do their bidding. wise up. you're being used.
     
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  3. Did you even bother reading my post?
    I stated very clearly that I don't agree with destroying statues/monuments.

    As for this nonsense about the MB (Muslim Brotherhood) trying to take over the US? That's pure nonsense and nothing but pure delusional paranoia Possum.

    All this childish nonsense about BLM, Antifa, etc being out to get you and other Americans is like something from a comic book Comrade. There's nobody out to get you, what's happening is people are fed up with the status quo and demanding change. If anyone is being used it's you Comrade, you're falling for the fear mongering propaganda that is being spouted by the likes of Trump in a bid to secure his base and win votes.

    Relax, chill out and enjoy life Comrade. You've nothing to worry about.
     
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  4. People who don't understand history or who misinterpret it are now leading the charge. It's all about what non-whites have done for this country now. The white man's accomplishments have no relevance because he's by default racist no matter what he achieved for the country. Those leading these movements have no sense of historical perspective. In order to learn history, you have to understand the thinking of the time in which historical figures lived and how that motivated their actions. Life and history aren't always picturesque. I'm all for removing Confederate monuments, but U.S. presidents and other historically significant people is going too far.
     
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  5. you are one of either very ill informed about the inner machinations currently at play in american politics, or you very feebly attempt to hide the truth. if you are going to try to deny in a public forum the organized influence of the MB and it's downstream organizations in the current american political and societal scene i'm just going to label YOU delusional. lol P, you know it as well as I and tens of thousands of others. dont try to be coy or duplicitous.
     
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  6. No, I don't think any of it was personal. It was a reaction to the continuous abuse and savagery that is being inflicted upon a section of the US population by the state and it's forces.

    How many business owners were killed? How many were choked to death on the street? Very little if any.

    It's interesting that you are more concerned about property than what is being inflicted upon the black population of the US.
     
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  7. Property? I’m more concerned about innocent people being beaten in the streets.
    What you don’t understand is the fact that all people get abused by police. If you resist, you get beaten by cops. If you talk like a wise ass, you’ll get beaten by cops. White, black, brown or green. A lot of cops are assholes but taking that out on the rest of the country will only do more harm to your race.
     
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  8. When is the last time the Muslim brotherhood threatened you or your family directly Possum?
    Is their a chapter anywhere near where you live?

    I think what's really going on here is you cannot bare the thought of black Americans or Muslim Americans standing up for themselves.
    Don't live in fear Possum, it'll drive you mad.

    I've tried and I've tried with you Comrade and it's like banging my head off a wall. Just when I think we're getting somewhere you come out with some crazy ass conspiracy theory about BLM, Antifa or the Muslim brotherhood.
     
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  9. You should be out on the street Comrade with the other protestors calling for change so if you can see what's going on.

    I'd look very closely at who is starting the violence, the boogaloo brigade are out in force at these protests doing all they can to start a civil war. Sure there are black people behaving badly at these protests but it's a tiny percentage and does not take away from what is a righteous cause.
     
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  10. the destruction of businesses is a direct assault on the owner of the business. if the business owner is killed in the process will that put it on more equal footing with "what is being inflicted upon the black population of the US"? the business owners livelihoods are destroyed, goods and services provided to the community are gone, jobs in the community are gone. i imagine people affected are minorities themselves.

    george floyd's death deserves more respect than people destroying the very towns some of them live in. i'm sure a lot of the riotous behavior was being provoked by "others" in the name of george floyd.
     
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  11. Post a video of innocent whites being beaten by looters an it gets deleted. ..
    At least the mods here are not as bad as RIU.
    That place is a radical liberal hell hole.
     
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  12. As I said, it's a small minority that are indulging in violence and it does not take away from what is a righteous cause.

    This thread is about statues and monuments and whether they should be removed, etc... Let's keep it on track and keep other discussions to the numerous other threads.
     
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  13. How many protests have you participated in?
     
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  14. 2 or 3 over here this side of the pond. None in the US but I've watched numerous live feeds, read numerous reports of same, etc...

    How many have you taken part in Comrade?
     
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  15. Let's put it in perspective.
    1. Do not publicly discuss moderator actions it is against the forum guidelines.
    2. That was the fourth time you have posted the same video.
    3. You were given a deletion notice not to spam it all over.
     
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  16. Not sure why “the destruction of businesses “ became the main argument. The couple were beaten with 2x4’s
    It’s also horrible their business was vandalized..
     

  17. i dont have issue with anyone of any race, religion, ethnicity, or (adult) sexual preferences or any combination thereof that wants to live in the US under the laws of the city, county, state, they live in. no problem at all. i take strong exception to those who feel disenfranchised to take to the streets in riotous behavior, who occupy public property denying access to any except those that they accept, and i take strong exception to any individual or group that wants to fundamentally destroy the history of and the constitution by which our country operates. our government has plenty of each and all of those categories of people well ingrained into american society. again, no problem. but when the same people attempt to restruture our US society and our government without due process (the vote), i have huge issues with that behavior.

    Islam is what it is depending on the flavor one adheres to but in the end every "good muslim" supports jihad against the west or they arent a "good muslim". yes/no? do we really want to there or do you want to just readily acknowledge the muslim agenda for the US? the muslim brotherhood, the nation of islam, the council for american islamic relationtions, the muslim american society, and 20 other islamic organizations are all over american politics trying to reshape policy wanting to first usher in socialism later to become "something else" later, then you are correct that we're not going to agree because that denial is just an unequivocal untruth.
     
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  18. Gotcha, wasn’t aware of your first point.
    That video of an innocent elderly white couple being beaten by looters has only been viewed 11k times on YouTube. Google and the media do their best to suppress such violent activity perpetrated by their “peaceful protestors”.
    The video should be seen by all more.
     
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