See I’m thinking it’s the other way around… Out of all of the countries in the world there is only what … 11 that can claim to no wars? So that means according to you guys there’s 150 or so genocidal countries in the world - out of just under 170. You are correct… The writing is on the wall - conflict is reality and has been basically since the dawn of time. But you are in luck though; that’s 11 countries you could potentially be happy living in. I would never dream of living my whole life unhappy… And if I was that unhappy I would think I’d have one of two choices; do something about it or live to somewhere else that made me happy. I certainly wouldn’t stay if there wasn’t anything I could do about it or I don’t want to do anything about it though. J
I simply don’t understand the thought process behind countries that go to war automatically being listed as performing Genocide. That means probably 95% of the countries in the world should be in this category, correct? And what’s up with the “way to show your validity “ crack? I’ll say I had no idea where the Posi rear end comment came from either. Confusing. I am glad to hear at least, that you feel Lucky to be born on American soil. Too many shit on it that have no right . J
A long, long time ago; humanity was enslaved on this earth. The way we were enslaved was by the creation of money. "Someone" decided that if a person was indebted to them, they had control over said person. We never had hate. We are taught hate. Now we use money to judge, and empoversh. War is not only a violent, bloody, morbid thing; it is a strategy. So when you say you don't understand, I can only try and help. I ask you, if there was no religion, would there be no war? If there was no money, would poverty exist? Everyone wants to help others. We must stay vigilant towards ourselves, also. Or are we being blinded by so many symbols, it's subconscious? I side on the latter. Once you see the world for how it's made, you see the true evil taught in men. Sent from my LG-SP200 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
“way we were enslaved was by the creation of money“ You think? I’d have to say that that’s not true. What money does for me is to give me a comfortable home to live in; food and clothes for my wife & children and the power to pay for my car so that I can continue going to work to make more money LOL I’ve given up on the wealth thing. Money actually holds zero interest for me - at least until I don’t have any lol I never pay attention to the bills or the bank etc.… I let my wife dealing with that. I know there’s not much in the bank but as long as the bills are paid and there’s food in the refrigerator and gas in the car then I know I’m doing what I can and the people that count on me will be OK for another week “We never had hate. We are taught hate.” Can’t you say that about every emotion? Selfishness? Even kindness? I got to tell you what - I pretty much hated my big brother a lot of the times when I was a kid and nobody taught me that but him when he was mean to me. “Now we use money to judge, and Impoverish” Who uses money to judge, dude? Does the poor Spanish family down the road use their money to judge with? Do they use it to impoverish? Do YOU? Kind of stretching out here a little bit aren’t you? “So when you say you don't understand, I can only try and help. Oh, I understand just fine dude - I think you misunderstood me. What I said is that I don’t understand your way of thinking . “Everyone wants to help others. We must stay vigilant towards ourselves, also” I definitely don’t mind helping others - as long as they actually deserve my help at which point I am minute to the end, but If they’re just slackers then they can rot. “Once you see the world for how it's made, you see the true evil taught in men” See - You’re losing me again dude. How was the world made? Wait… Are you trying to teach me religion LOL J
Money actually holds zero interest for me - at least until I don’t have any lol ~I hope you don't view life this way. The rest of your statement about you living life is irrelevant. I pretty much hated my big brother a lot of the times ~Hate is taught, it's not an emotion. It is the product of misguided jealousy or despair, emotions. Who uses money to judge, dude? Does the poor Spanish family down the road use their money to judge with? Do they use it to impoverish? Do YOU? ~Employers use money to judge. The poor spanish family down the road is a striving representation of ambition most people lack. And I judge people solely based on their character. See - You’re losing me again dude. How was the world made? Wait… Are you trying to teach me religion LOL ~I'm not trying to preach about religion, I'm talking about the man-made world. ALL the intricacies in religious materials are symbols. Actually, everything is a symbol. We only know life through symbols. So when I talk about man-made world; I'm talking about the language we're using, to the owl on the top right corner of the $5 bill. Did you know the owl, commonly misrepresented as a spider, is a revered animal in the Bohemian Grove? It represents the absolute control possible by such a fraction of a society. Obviously, you know about President Lincoln's assassination. He started printing money by the government, rather than capitulate to the bank's loan shark rates. Look what that got him, an owl defaming his name on the $5 bill, and a bullet. It's all about the money. There's a reason the federal reserve is an ungoverned entity, like the vatican. Money=Religion Now, religion is only an afterthought. Money was the initial enslavement, but that darn hate. Remember what I said about hate? People began to establish a community of equals, through compassion. Religion appeared as a rouse for compassion. It masks itself as a belief one can only find through selflessness. And really, who isn't compassionate towards themselves? This compassion has cost people their lives. I use the word cost only because the people ruling this earth see people according to their "value." You said it yourself, "I definitely don’t mind helping others - as long as they actually deserve my help at which point I am minute to the end, but If they’re just slackers then they can rot." As if, you didn't need to think about it. I never mentioned anything negative. The disgust you have for "slackers" is a misunderstanding of society. Just like socialism.
Defensive wars are justified, the U.S. is constantly involved in wars with nations all over the world. Btw that just supports my contention that governments are evil.
We were not enslaved by the creation of money, money is one of the most brilliant technologies in human history. Think about it this way. I make cabinets and you grow apples. You want some cabinets but I have no use for 300lbs of your apples, what do you do to convert your labor/property into something that I value? You could trade your apples to all the people who have the things I need, or we can use money that is a symbol of value. Maybe I say my cabinets are worth 400lb of apples and you don't agree, maybe you find someone who builds cabinets and values them at 300lbs of apples. That is the free market, we dont have a government dictating the value of cabinets and apples. If you have a bad year growing apples, the output goes down which makes them more valuable. Or if you have a fruitful year and get double the yield, the value goes down, or you start a marketing campaign that around autumn everyone should have good homemade apple pies, thus creating a demand for your apples.
Interestingly, there are parallels between Yahweh and debt. You are born a sinner (in debt) and must pay off your debt. But the debt is infinite and you cannot pay an infinite debt, so you must believe Jesus paid your debt for you. As with the world bankers wanting to tax us to pay on the government debt, I reject that I am in debt to Yahweh or the banks. I am free, not a slave to either.
How can you say money is one of the most brilliant technologies, then claim to not be a slave to banks? If you use money, you are a slave. Don't be fooled. It's ubiquitous, and plastic now, too. Oh the irony, people valuing a piece of plastic that's literally worth nothing. Sent from my LG-SP200 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
Federal Reserve Notes are not money, they are a facsimile of a facsimile of money. It does not reflect value in the market, which is evident in their printing money with zero backing. Money is one of the most brilliant technologies, but it has been bastardized and manipulated into an instrument of evil. Like I said it allows people to trade when the two parties don't necessarily want what the other person has to trade.
It was much better back when the money was actual pieces of gold or silver… Something that had an actual value Even when it was backed by gold - but now... Still - you’re right - I have no use for all those apples so we need something different to barter with and that’s where $$ comes in. $$ doesn’t necessarily equal greed - I’m not greedy at all. I just want to live quietly and comfortably and have always worked hard in order to do so. J
No it isn't greed in most peoples case. I think on some level we realize that our money isn't worth what our output is, and this is true, which is inherent in the scheme of this kind of currency system. I am glad people realize that the money system is corrupt, but it isn't the fault of capitalism or the technology of money, it is the corruption of money. (I am talking to anyone interested, not just saying this TO you). If you think about a circle that represents the total value of human energy (what we have created/fuel/buildings) and divide it up say 1 trillion times, we could use a dollar as being 1/trillionth of the total human value. Say you have 1 million dollars, you have one millionths of the total pie. Now if some bank issues the money and they print an extra trillion, that doesnt doduble the human energy output, all that does is devalue all the money and literally steals your energy. Now your 1million is worth half what it was before, because it is 1 million/2trillion instead of 1million/1trillion. Once you understand how basic it really is, then it should become clear how all of these complex forumla the stock and bank people employ are really just fraudulent and literally vampiric, which is why I refer to it as black magic. When they are able to devalue your money/purchasing power, which represents your portion of the pie, they are ipso facto stealing your energy. This is why when you look at the purchasing power of something they cannot as easily manipulate, like silver, its value relative to the dollar has gone way up over the last 80years. The dollar used to be worth an ounce of silver, now it takes $15 dollars to buy an ounce. So the dollar has been devalued 15x compared to silver. Say you make 90k dollars, if they paid you in ounces of silver your purchasing power/value compared to silver should be $1.35million. This is why I agree for people like you and me, this isn't anout greed, it is about reflected value. It seems at the subconscious level people realize their purchasing power is way lower than it should be. But, calling for $15 per hour is not the solution, it only makes matter worse. If they froze the printing of more dollars and raised the wage to $225dollars per hour, then you would be earning closer to what you are worth. Imagine that, being able to work 1hr vs 15 and still have the same fraction of the pie? Again, since they divided the pie into more smaller pieces, you have to work 15hr to be worth 1hr back when silver was $1per ounce. So even in a place as wealth as the U.S. you are still being screwed a LOT. When people try to pull the "you are lucky to live X because it is worse everywhere else" it is a poor argument that 1. Lets me know they don't understand what is going on 2. Dont care that most of their value is being leeched. So while this is a "first world problem", solving it will help the entire worlds economic situation. Sometimes I feel like I am wasting my time and should be focusing on helping the worse off, but when I remember the broad picture, nothing would help them more than for us to fix this monetary system. I dont study this stuff so I can feel/seem smart, I study it because I want humanity to be free, happy and healthy. P.s. perhaps some of you can now realize why government healthcare, minimum wage, etc isn't a solution because it is not addressing the problem, it is addressing the symptom.
Btw there will come a time when this fraud starts to implode, people will not accept u.s. dollars for good because it is becoming less and less valuable. When the dollar collapses the only things of value will be your labor and assets. If you are old, you won't have much labor left to offer, so hopefully you have assets. So you can imagine what will be valuable. Food, salt, sugar, tobacco, cannabis, herbs/spices, rice, energy (propane, gasoline etc), wood, tools, medicine etc. I think they will have to do one or all of these things to prevent it. 1. Mine asteroids 2. Increase actual size of the pie (colonize space, unleash a new technology etc) 3. Switch to a new system. Number 3 would probably still cause a temporary recession or depression, but that is unavoidable since we have collateralized the future (which is what debt reallt is).
Don’t care what anyone says if there is a heaven that shit sounds boring leave me on pleasure island.
My argument against the argument that religion is all about fear based control, is that a saved Christian has nothing to fear, especially no hell.
I suspect that is why Christianity is so heavily under attack, from the inside and out. Imagine getting baptized/drowned and inducing a near death experience, and overcoming the fear of death and thus fear of anything. Elites definitely cannot have an army of 1billion people preaching love, anti war and not fearing death!
Damn son, is that how that went down? Anyways, Christians don't fear nothing. We're human, we all have our fears. But I do get you that overcoming the fear of death is kinda like an ultimate elimination.