Regarding Religion and Revolution

Discussion in 'Politics' started by MountyBounty, Jan 28, 2011.

  1. As most of you blades know, revolutions and regime changes are sporadically occurring throughout the middle east. All the Western sponsored dictators are flying to Europe to flee their subjects and the people are taking charge of their own nation.

    Now the part that really gets me is that I kind of agree with the Ayatollah of Iran on his recent statements.


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    My knowledge on middle east history is sub par at best, but I know the role that religion played into the developed of the secession of the American colonies from British rule during the American Revolution.

    yeah, most people will say "Our founding fathers were deists" but you gotta understand where they gained the philosophy of deism.

    I'm make a quick history on religion in Great Britain and if I left something out fill me in


    Basically, the people of Britain at the time lead the change from a highly centralized religious international organization (the Catholic Church) to a national church (Anglican Church), and finally to religions like Protestantism which removes the structures of centralization of power by removing the idea of bishops and implementing the self interpretation of religious text. This happened over the course of about 2 centuries but the role of religion was a major factor in the American Revolution.

    A quick article I found...



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    Religion was a massive factor in the American Religion and by watching the Protesters in Egypt to take the time to get their 5 prayers in for the day the religious undertones are obvious.

    Now the big question is whether the people of the Middle east will move to a more centralized religious authority or a to a more secular democracy. The Ayatollah of Iran thinks this is a victory for the Islamic Religion but he quickly forgets the protests Iran has recently faced. The young Muslims in Iran want a more secular democracy and used Western culture of Facebook and Twitter to organize their resistance.

    Even though they are throwing out our puppets, I think these revolutions are for the best and that many young Muslims want to experience a more liberated secular democracy instead of devolving back into theocracies... so does the Ayatollah got it wrong or right blades? :smoke:
     
  2. I think that the middle-east sans Israel will form together at some point and create a New Caliphate centered around the Umnah(A form of Government based around Islam with a Caliph as Head of State)

    But that's as far as I know on the subject in all honesty.
     
  3. I stopped reading after I saw the quote, "those who fight religion are doomed to fail."

    Because I already won.
     
  4. Quite hypocritical for anyone in the Iranian government to be talking about democracy....They had that until Ahmadinejad stole the election in 2009 and then killed and raped protesters as punishment when they came out in the millions to contest the election.
     
  5. Its absurd for a few reasons, the most obvious of which is that these protests have nothing to do with religion. Some segment of the opposition in these countries are Islamist such as the Muslim Brotherhood but they are not leading this.
    Their official position is "We do not support or oppose these protests. We have told our members they can do as they wish in this matter".

    The only role religion can play really is that it can give something extra for people to rally around. In other words, you can form a tribe and oppose a different tribe, if the tribal lines are not clear enough to begin with.

    All that said, it would not be surprising if one or more of these countries ended up with an Iranian style "democracy".
     

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