Rap : Hip-Hop

Discussion in 'Music genres, Bands and Artists' started by mөsh, May 23, 2010.

  1. #1 mөsh, May 23, 2010
    Someone smart elaborate the difference between the two for me please.
     
  2. #2 murdermore410, May 23, 2010
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    Hiphop is a culture rap is it's music

    edit: but some will say rap is the mainstream guys like Wayne and gucci who only talk about money violence and women and that hiphop is more intellectual, lyrical, and real, guys like KRS and Nas
     
  3. #3 Fresh Error, May 23, 2010
    i'll give you a new answer:

    the boundaries are debatable.
     
  4. #4 Schizo-Manic, May 23, 2010
    rap is something you do..
    hip-hop is something you live

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tUaGFI2m5Y]YouTube - KRS gives 9 elements of Hip Hop at Harvard[/ame]
     
  5. #5 Fresh Error, May 23, 2010
    and yes - both the other answers in this thread are true.
    but the thing is.. 'hip-hop music' vs 'rap music' is another story. somehow the two have emerged as different genres. that's what i was referring to when i said the boundaries are debatable.
     
  6. #6 ecupirates, May 23, 2010
    Ive studied this...Hip hop is more of a lifestyle and consists of four main components
    1) dj'ing (which me and my brother do)
    2) Graffiti
    3) Breakdancing (which I do)
    4) Rap or mc'ing (generally when it has meanings and messages

    so in a sense rap is a part of hip hop and its culture..hope this helped
     
  7. #7 Schizo-Manic, May 23, 2010
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoAXsSoEcZw]YouTube - KRS-One: Hip Hop Beyond Entertainment (1/4)[/ame]
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQYr31GWqT0&feature=related]YouTube - KRS-One: Hip Hop Beyond Entertainment (2/4)[/ame]
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1mgPr8X7ls&feature=related]YouTube - KRS-One: Hip Hop Beyond Entertainment (3/4)[/ame]
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab6gfvYzxr0&feature=related]YouTube - KRS-One: Hip Hop Beyond Entertainment (4/4)[/ame]
    [ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjJDhyW2BaY&feature=related[/ame]
     
  8. #8 Beaming, May 23, 2010
    "Rap is a gimmick, but I'm for the hip-hop, the culture. "

    Method Man
     
  9. #9 whh10, May 23, 2010
    It is all apart of the hip hop culture. I guess you could say there is a difference between rap music and hip hop music.

    Rap music= Lil wayne, Gucci Mane, Soulja Boy, Young Jeezy, Waka Flocka Flame, etc.

    Hip Hop= Rakim, KRS-One, P.O.S.,Murs, Atmosphere, The Wu Tang.

    I will admit that some artist in "Rap music" have a good beat or two and maybe a clever rhyme, but every time I have tried to get into that style I get sick of it after a week so I stick with hip hop music.
     
  10. #10 k.smith904, May 23, 2010
    It has nothing to do with mainstream vs. underground.

    I consider "rap" more of an obnoxious, I'm better than you, style.

    I would consider Big L & Wu-Tang more rap. But still, the aforementioned at least had some type of message in most of their songs. Today's mainstream has exploited the money, cars, and insults, and turned it into a whole sub-genre.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOac908VKAA]YouTube - Define: Hip-Hop (Real vs Mainstream)[/ame]
     
  11. #11 whh10, May 23, 2010
    I agree with this guy. Today's mainstream has pretty much stuck with the I'm better than you style and completely removed the message part.
     
  12. #12 Deck-ter, May 23, 2010
    rap is music hip hop the culture... which means krs-on lil wayne,nas,gucci mane are all rap music whether they have a message or not..
     

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