Psychopath + Sociopathy + Political knowledge is dangerous. I hope you're not charismatic in person. That would spell disaster.
Hey, thanks for the post and even more for trying to expand your viewpoints. 1) I spent 20yrs of my adult life trying to "choose to be straight". I was so in the closet and so much in denial, that I had to do the whole straight marriage and kids. It didnt work out that way, and i am very happy being gay. lot less work. 2) Its a gianormous stereotype about the girly voice or effiminate characteristics. Not all gay men are like that, not even most. its just that it is more visible, and rememberable. 3) tl:dw 4) done. cheers
A little exercise in reality: think about all the male celebrities, sportsmen, news anchors and politicians that have came out in the last ten years and tell me how many are "girly"? Another exercise: go to a gay club, where it's safe to assume 95% of the guys are gay, and tell me how many of the guys there act "girly". Gender roles are artificially created social constructs. Why can't we just stop "boxing" and "labeling" people? There's nothing wrong in being a macho alpha male. There's nothing wrong with being a "sissy". And for the great majority of us -gay and straight- who fall somewhere in between, let's just be ourselves. If you like hunting while listening to lady gaga, guess what? It's ok. No infallible being has ever said hunting is manly, while lady gaga is effeminate. It was US, fallible biased human beings, that ascribed unnecessary qualities to those activities. Pink was originally a manly color, and 50 years ago jeans where solely men's clothes. Remember that what humanity has built, humanity can tear down.
I have a gay friend with one of those "high voices" and effeminate mannerisms. I just figure because he hangs out with chicks all the time he is pretty much a chick with a dick haha. I don't care though, he introduces me to some fine women!
quoting this man so I can remember to rep it when I have rep to rep empathy is my shit man, I got Oodles of it. I found this enlightening thanks
Also, preppy or any other gay guys, I've always been a bit curious regarding the sex thing. At a young age when you realized you were attracted to men, how did you feel about the physical act of sex with a man? The idea of anal weirds me out, even with a chick. I don't know if I'm really open minded or if I'm maybe a bit bi (like people in this thread suggest) but I've always been able to say that some males are good looking. or even downright beautiful . I also see no reason why I couldn't ever fall in love with a man (although its never come close to happening). But if I did, I simply wouldnt be able to have sex with a dude. Hahah so I guess I'm straight. Or maybe I just don't like butt stuff. I guess my question is just erm. was butt sex weird and you got used to it? Or were you a 13 year old at summer camp thinking "I wanna fuck a dude in the butt" just like I was a 13 year old thinking "I wanna fuck a chick (but not in the butt)" P.S. in the interest of full disclosure, I would probably give Ryan Gosling a handjob if I happened to be in love with him. But it would be really weird
Actually wait I guess my question really is this: is butt sex a way for you to express your love for another man? Or is it like woo butts! Sorry if I'm coming from a totally ignorant mindset
There's a little bit of "woo butts" (or woo penis!) but it's also as intimate as any penetrating sex. 1. I should say that I am bi, although sexually I lean more toward men. I had big crushes on women all through my childhood. I wanted to hold their hands, I wanted to kiss them, I wanted to have a girlfriend. I was always an ass man though and didn't care much about breasts. After I started having sex, I became more interested in men. I had already been masturbating to gay porn since I was about 15-16, but had never had a real life crush on a man until I was into my 20's. I was way too into girls to mess with boys. Then once I started having sex, I found that I like the WAY men have sex more. I have never met a woman who is like, "yay, cock!" but I've met TONS of men who would love to get at it. I think if women fucked like men, I would be about 50/50, but since women suck in bed I'd rather have sex with a man. Anyway, I guess what I'm saying is that sexual attraction is very convoluted. I've been in more relationships with women than men, but had more sex with men. 2. I do not have a feminine voice, although usually after people have known me for 6 months to a year they start to suspect something from my mannerisms. This is actually a good question and I don't think there's one answer. Some men are more effeminate and some women are more masculine, and in SOME cases it seems to be related to sexuality. But keep in mind, for every "queeny" acting gay dude you know, there is another one that you would never guess. They just don't get as much attention. 3. Louis CK: Faggot - YouTube Not offensive, because his joke is ABOUT the offense. If someone calls me a faggot in a store because I'm holding hands with a dude, it's offensive. If you refer to gay men as faggots, it's offensive. If you make a joke about how absurd it is to try to make someone feel bad about themselves by using a harsh word, then you are making fun of the dick holes who say faggot. He's a brilliant comedian. No one should be offended by him ever. If we aren't smart enough to differentiate meaning and just get pissed over the WORD, we aren't winning. 4. I think straight people CAN answer these. Just take your own experience, and imagine that it was about men instead. We're all the same assholes underneath.
I hope no one minds the multiple answers. Haha. I'm actually in grad school studying human sexuality, so I do know a bit of something... Anyway, I LOVE butt stuff. I remember the first time I saw a naked hard penis. It took me 27 minutes do download over a dial up modem and I pretty much freaked out with arousal. It was a while before I saw actual butt sex, but I still wanted it. Porn of course has made it way too commonplace now. I kind of miss the mystery of sex... but that's another story. Anyway, the thing that is intimate about anal sex is whoever is taking it basically is taking what should be the dirtiest and possibly the most private part of the body and cleaning it thoroughly and then making it available for sex. And boy does it feel good. I know lots of gay guys who are wary of anal. Maybe they can't get over the butt's usual function, or maybe they just like cocks, or maybe they are attracted to men on an emotional level, but not quite ready to grapple with the logistics of anal sex. One of my best friends tells me after every time he has sex with his boyfriend, "gay sex is so gross." I don't share his sentiment, but it does go to show that it's not for everyone. Butt sex isn't really easy either. The bottom needs to know what he's doing, and so does the top for that matter. But when it's good, it's SO good. Anyway, when I was younger, just kissing a guy or getting a blowie, was awesome, but intercourse is intercourse.
That was really insightful while at the same time being what I expected haha. I think if I were gay I'd be one of the "gay sex is so gross, lets 69 for 2 hours" gays. I have a bit of a follow up question. You seemed really sure of your physical attraction at a young age to men and man parts but you still, perhaps due to societal norm or just because, were attracted to women and had sex with them. My question is did sex with women ever feel "wrong" to you? I'm assuming it didn't and you just prefer sex with males and so do you think the "wrongness" that most guys (like myself) would associate with gay sex is just due to the taboo nature of it. Or is it just because youre bi? haha sorry this is all very interesting to me THanks for the response, +repd and cheers!
Also, do you find a discrepancy between female attraction to men and male attraction to men? Both you and preppy talked about seeing a penis for the first time and how attracted you were to it. From my experience (very little, I'll admit) most girls dont see a dick and get turned on. For a straight guy, just an isolated image of tits or a nice ass will be enough . Girls however dont seem to just be attracted to the cock itself more what the cock represents. Is this maybe similar to how girls pretend to not masturbate? They don't want to seem to lust for cocks so instead they feign (or falsely emphasize) attraction for other parts of the body, (pelvis, abs, face, etc). I feel like this isn't the case.
[quote name='"Pink_bagel"']Faggot = bundle of sticks.. Well, it used to.[/quote] Used to burn witches and homosexuals.
Good questions. I think I classify myself as bi because sex with a woman does not feel wrong, it just doesn't feel quite as fulfilling. Don't get me wrong, I've had terrible sex with men too, so I don't blame the sex. I DO know many gay men who do feel that sex with a women feels wrong and they are extremely turned off by girl parts. In fact, I would say a large percentage of gay people I know are "eww, vagina" gays. Gay sex felt exciting, perhaps because of the taboo nature of it, but never wrong. More like, "wow, I wanna get me more of that." The first time I kissed a boy it was like Katy Perry's fireworks music video (which is also super gay). For your other question: I do feel like my attraction to women is somewhat different than my attraction to men, but shares some similarities. For one thing, if a guy or girl is in little underwear and flashing their ass at me, I'm going to get sexually turned on. However, for the most part I think I am attracted to women the way women are attracted to men. All of the qualities and what that means, and how she makes me feel about myself, etc.. etc.. all play a part in my arousal and romantic feelings. For a guy, it's pretty carnal, although I eventually had a couple of friends or boyfriends that really made me feel romantic... yet wanting to bang all the time. I think aspects of my attraction to women are pretty socially constructed, but they are still real and not something I can ignore. My attraction to men seems to be somewhat internalized and about vanity and pure arousal. I don't spend a lot of time trying to dig through how I should feel, or how I could feel etc... I just notice how I do feel, and try to live true to that.
True fucking that man, for everyone gay/bi/straight/whatever. At the end of the day that just is how it is. Which sounds weird since I'm asking so many questions haha but I'm just curious (insert ".....BIcurious" joke here ) I totally get what you mean with the contrast between the carnal attraction and the arousal of romance though. Its as simple as porn vs gf. Although what is very very interesting to me is your third to last sentence relative to all this. I guess if you go off the assumption that love would be the romantic sexual arousal then is romantic love a social construct, ie is sex the internal, the natural and romance just "how we feel we are supposed to feel" Obviously this question has been asked countless times throughout the ages I just thought it was interesting how it sort of came up "naturally" to me when I read your post. A refutation would be the fact that romantic arousal can totally trump carnal arousal for me. The best of course is when theres both!
I don't think it makes a person gay if you can tell that another man is good looking or not. I'll be honest, I can tell if another man is attractive just like girls can tell if other girls are attractive even if they're straight. I'm straight. Although I can tell if another man is good looking, I'm weirded out at the thought of even getting too close to another man's face. I would never be able to touch a dick and be comfortable with what I'm doing. That's because I'm straight, I love my girlfriend, I'm attracted to women and when I have dreams about sex they're always about me having sex with a woman (these days it's always my girlfriend). I love having sex with her also. On the other hand, I don't think I would ever enjoy having sex with a dude and if I knew another dude wanted to have sex with me I'd be pretty uncomfortable.
Wow, glad my thread has provided many questions and answers Awesome for different minded people to be able to talk maturely about a subject a party doesn't understand Also, have a question.....I guess women could answer this too.....but does butt sex feel good?? Like on a physical standpoint. Not talking about "givers" talking about "receivers" I understand it probably feels good on an emotional level if its with someone you care about