Question about evolution

Discussion in 'Science and Nature' started by KirbyPuckett, May 14, 2011.

  1. No worries brother, after all: your gonna already be carted off to heaven when the Rapture happens a week from now, right.........right?
     
  2. #62 KirbyPuckett, May 15, 2011
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    Nice post. Thank you. Why would some species be more intelligent than others in this explanation though? I guess what makes it hard for me, is the fact we have so many different species of monkeys/chimps. Why didn't each of those different species evolve to different humans? Wouldn't there only be one type of monkey then? (not just monkeys, but other species too)I tend to think the evolution has only created ethnicity/race. Look at the Japanese. They seem to be much more intelligent than my fellow americans. Why aren't they considered a new species?

    When the monkeys changed environments, that is when I tend to think they evolved to a different type of monkey, but not a human. Why wouldn't these different species each evolve into there own human types?

    phire: I don't believe in heaven, other than here on earth.

    edit: for your edit. Where does the dna come into effect with these mutations? You'd think it would have to be in the very beginning? Once the dna forms, what put in the intelligence to cause its encoded form to take shape?
     
  3. The different species of apes, are reflected by physiological differences. Humans are all the same, save for small inconsistencies such as shape of nose, double jointedness, ect.

    It is very obvious that the Japanese are much smarter than Americans, because of the different cultures. The people Americans idolize are the actors, movie stars and athletes. The people the Japanese idolize, are scientists and authors. America would catch up to the Japanese in terms of average intelligence, if we stopped dismissing our geniuses as "dorks" and "nerds", embraced academia and fried our brains a little less, with the non stop sex and violence.
     
  4. #64 KirbyPuckett, May 15, 2011
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    So your saying the different cultures (environments) would cause us to evolve to separate species eventually? But why are there so many species of apes, but only one human form (separate by race/ethnicity, but still one bodytype (besides male/female))? I agree environment can change facial structure, but some apes are very different from other types. Again, why wouldn't these completely different types evolve a completely different creature? Which type evolved into humans? Also, isn't it a bit fishy two beings evolved simultaneously male/female? Maybe not the first creatures, but eventually this change happened? What kind of environment change would cause this requirement?
     
  5. If we are going to evolve further it wouldn't be for a looooong time.
     
  6. again...evolution is not charmander -> charmeleon. When you ask why monkey -x-> human it is because thats not what evolution is.

    DNA is the key to life. It is from DNA that everything inside a body is made. The source of mutations is DNA, or rather, when a normal physiological function regarding DNA (replication, mitosis, etc) goes wrong, mutations occur.

    And phire420 you are 100% correct
     
  7. So how did life begin with dna? Proteins? Where did the information come from?
     
  8. Why are there so many species of apes and only one of humans? Who knows...my guess is their ancestors were given much more time to undergo speciation.

    And by environments I don't meant culture, I mean actual environment.

    Here's an example. In a population there is a mutation that gives the carrier resistance to fatal disease A. In this situation people with the mutation are "stronger" because they have a better chance of living longer and therefore a better chance to pass on their genes. The environment selects for people with the mutation because people without the mutation are more likely to die off and not pass on their genes. After enough time elapses, everyone in the population will have the mutation. Evolution has occured.
     
  9. Are you asking me how life began? I don't think anyone will ever have the answer to that
     
  10. So why are apes still here? They should die off.. leaving dominant species. I know you mean environment, but cultures are what cause our separation in intelligence. Does this mean they are any different from us, just because they look different, and have more intelligence? Were all still homo sapiens if you ask me..
     
  11. Well I already know, but couldn't we agree intelligence was needed to encode dna?
     
  12. I am a Christian, so I personally would say yes a being of higher intelligence (in my case God) was a factor in the origin of DNA. Factor is a bit of an understatement...

    What reasoning do you have for saying that the apes should have died off?

    Evolution only has to do with DNA. Cultures do not affect DNA (unless some culture is very incline to radiation exposure). If you look at the the DNA between a Caucasian, an African, and a Japanese man, there is virtually no difference.
     
  13. Haven't really read the thread, but here we go, again.

    Don't quite know what you mean, here. How do you figure that a contradictory statement is true? "I am here, but I am not." You said we're all the same, but different. Isn't an inconsistancy a difference, meaning we aren't the same? I don't see how you can say that whites are the same as blacks, blacks are the same as asians, and asians are the same as whites. Sorry for putting it so bluntly, but c'mon, now. Humans are NOT all the same; we've simply done so much interracial breeding that the differences are no longer seen as easily. How can you say that a species is all the same, even though they have differences? I mean, the differences came from somewhere, right? When you see an African living in the Arctic, do you think that he belongs there? I'm not saying he can't choose to go, but his family obviously did not evolve there.
     
  14. The capabilities of the universe goes beyond intelligence :)
     
  15. So environments dont cause dna mutations then?
     
  16. #76 KirbyPuckett, May 15, 2011
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    Ours definitely! science=infinite. everything=infinite. infinite=the source. Non-creationists seem to think we are more powerful than nature! lol
     
  17. For the most part environments do not cause mutations, environments affect selection, which in turn may cause evolution.
     
  18. #78 KirbyPuckett, May 15, 2011
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    ok man.. I'm not diggin it though. I think our higher intelligence was playing experiment, until he found the perfect being (through different dna), or realised no more species could survive for a while, so he moved to another planet. I don't see why else we would be the last species to evolve? Considering no difference in homo sapien in this long, I don't see us evolving to another species ever. Remember, humans have only been heavily civilised for a couple thousand years. Why are they spread out, yet not beginning to evolve to another species? (I mean toward the beginning of mankind) I realise this caused ethnicity/race, but that is all I think, just as it caused the different types of monkeys, but not different humans? I don't think our separate ethnicity/races will evolve to separate species of humans.. Does that make sense?
     
  19. The current monkeys are probably estimated to be hundred of thousands of years old. Its takes several thousands of years to see evolution occur with being with such complex DNA codes such as us. Who's to say we haven't evolved in the last couple thousand of years? You'll never know. Who's to say we won't evolve in the next couple thousand? Again, you'll never know....

    We are definitely not the last species to evolve. Evolution is going on right now. Look up MRSA
     
  20. #80 KirbyPuckett, May 15, 2011
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    Yea, but I think the only evolution occurring is ethnicity/race. I don't see us creating separate species because of it, just like the different apes didn't create separate human species. There is only one homo sapien, even though they lived so separate for so long.By now, I think we'd be seeing a change start to form, so what is it? intelligence? Does that make the japanese any different from other humans? African americans cause they were in the sun longer? Hell no. Still human to me.
     

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