questiions on floro and flowering?

Might get a little crowded, make sure you have lots of air moving, probably do some bonzaiing watch out for powdery mildew.

 

i dont think itll hurt them, although if it gets too crowded the lights wont be able to penetrate because theyre not HID. that is unless you did LST. if you havent already (i know its crowded) put some of the flourescents on the sides of the box so you get more light coverage to the lower buds. i had to extend my grow box a few days ago. it was 2'x3' i had to make it 3'x5'. just check up on them and make sure nothing strange is happening just like dude above me said.

this picture has supplimental lighting so that all parts of the plant are lit, which if you havent considered you probably should. except that i use HPS for everything. but youre ok. also check so that they dont look more like a bush or shrub like these...

 

thats good. looks like youre doing everything just fine. best wises on that tasty bud! your plants look nice n healthy too. by the pics it doesnt look like youre doing anything wrong. be sure to let us know how everything is when you finish!

 

oh wow. that really does look like a nice plant. yeah, might as well just keep it going. its always nice to see a successful flourescent grower, because theyre few and far inbetween. i dont see any problems, and this is your first grow? yeah this stuff is VERY addicting. lol sometimes i forget that theres actually a point to all of this. this is the main reason im getting a minor in botany and a major in chemistry.

 

haha nice. i wish theyd allow medical bud in my state. im more than legit to get it because of all of my brain trauma from all the years of mma.

yeah dude outdoors is so different. i used to grow outdoors too. back then things were so much simplier here too. now they have heli's with IR to detect plants. it didnt help when my state was classified as the state with the most indoor grow busts in 2007-08. now growers have to keep >10 plants and insulate the entire grow room so theres no heat leaks they can pick up on.

youll get a decent amount off those plants. i mean youre not like most first time indoor growers. youve at least got knowledge of how to treat your plants, and youre making sure you do everything to get those girls enough light. andd you have more than just one or two lights ya know. im not gunna estimate how much bud you get, but youll be happy ill tell ya that.

you can grow plenty of bud with flourescent. but if i may suggest an idea for your next grow, that might be able you to get a bit more in yeild. if you havent researched the LST (low stress training) method. its a pretty simple method that you start early. basically what it does is it keeps the main stem and fan leaves on the top of the soil, and all the internodes and buds grow up. it maxs out your light going to the bud sites. i know, lol, it sounds really strange but looking at a picture itll be like an ah ha moment. its just a thought for next time. i used it with i was using flourescent and cfl's and it gave me an extra 6-7 gramps per plant.

oh anddd... at lowes&home depot (if theres one near you) they have sales of metal halide and HPS "security" lighta when the manufacturer changes color and style of the lighting. they have 70-150 watts. like a month or two ago all the ones near me had a sale, and the lights didnt sell even at $20, so they put them on clearance for $8 per 70 watt hps. so i bought all 13 they had left. if you come across any on sale like that...grab them. you have to know how to wire them to a cheap extension cord (i say cheap because you have to cut it). and even if you dont know how to wire it, id be happy to tell you as many people on here. its pretty easy as long as you know a little about it.

even if you cant find them and stick with flourescent, youll tweak the ways you do things every grow which will produce you bigger yeilds. the buds you get will be just as tasty as anyone with HID lights P:

 

haha hell yeah, its better growin, but where i am if youre middle man you get as much "satisfaction" (you know what i mean but ima follow the rules) as a grower its just more work and more risky. i live in FL. the saying that you come on vacation, leave on probation, and come back on a violation aint no joke either. its really fucked up because since were also the state with the most prescribed roxi's and oxy's the 5-0 are trying to bust everyone for anything. shit, even im prescribed synthetic morphine.

yeah see if you can borrow that 400 watter. the best part is that it makes your buds a lot denser, but it doesnt really change how good your buds are. personally when i buy bud, i like to buy bud grown under flourescents and cfls because it looks like you get more and it being more fluffy it pretty much just vaporizes when you smoke it so you get all THC. but from the grower aspect its better to have denser buds if you know what im sayin.

just a thought, since you have the 2 tube flour. and the single tube flour in the corner, if put your healthiest and quickest growing plant in that corner. if you can at all, try to put your plants as close together as you can and bring the lights closer together so you concentrate your light. its just a thought. they look good as they are, im just throwin you a couple ideas out there. and i mean if sometime you have $20 extra you can spare, go grab one of those 2 tube T12 ballasts from lowes (theyre $10) and 2 GE residential flour. tubes. theyre only another $10 and each tube puts out 3150 lumens. thats what i use for my clones. and i put it like 1cm from the tops of them and i drape mylar over it so its like a little grow room kinda. if you can, take some clones from your plants. that way you ahve a jumpstart on your next grow, they grow much faster, and you know theyre female. again im just throwin some ideas out there. but if you do that i suggest getting a good cloning gel/powder/liquid. you can buy a very small amount (you need very little for each clone). i bought a good amount of gardentech rootone powder for $9.

i cant wait to see the buds you pull off those. lol, if i have to ill bump this thread so i can keep you up there.

 

oh man i REALLY wish we could get medical MJ cards here. i dont see it happening any time soon though. i visit marina del ray twice a year because my parents own rental property out there. since the deed to the houses are in their names, and my name is the same as my dad's im trying to learn more about getting the med mj card. im going to try to go out there long enough to get one so that at least when i do come twice a year for two weeks i can get legal buds.

if youre going to concentrate the light and everything, a really good option is going to a dollar store or something and getting those metallic sun visors or cheap fire blankets because theyre very reflective. that way you can make somewhat of a grow box outta them. im not completely sure about home depot's prices but the flourescent ballasts im talking about are "utilitech 48'' T12 ballasts". i know i mentioned the GE residential light tubes, but i just checked on my clones, and its not such a good idea. i found out theyre 4100K and they didnt help my plants. im going to get the "plant light" version tomorrow.
hmm. if i can figure something out about shipping (how much it is) i may be able to ship you a 70 watt hps security light ballast that i converted to a 4 foot remote ballast. its only a 70 watt but its a hps at that and it puts out 6700 lumens. theres not much im going to do with it because its not in the box, so i cant sell it and i have no need for it. ill check up on shipping to cali sometime this week. ill definately be checking up on your thread so ill let you know. if its not some crazy amount because of the weight ill send it to you. i think those flat rate boxes from usps are like $5. no biggie. i just gota make sure they dont charge me for the weight. its in a waterproof housing with a shatterproof face plate. all you gotta do is get a $5 extension cord and twist the matching color wires together. youll get more use out of it than it itting in my house for years. its got a polarlites 2100K 6700 lumen bulb barely used that i got for free (im not gunna say where it came from but it didnt cost me anything) lol.

ill keep in touch for sure.

 

haha yeah i reallly am waiting to see if that legalizing bill passes. if it does, i know its just a matter of time before all the states do it. the main reason is because were in so much debt, they need the money from buds.

nice, ive personally never heard of the nutes, but im sure theyre pretty good. yeah you definately wanna research that.

and on the way to class today i stopped by the ups store and they said that since the dimensions of the entire enclosure is over 130cm id have to pay by weight. so i said if its not in the enclosure and i just ship the ballast, ignitor, socket, and bulb what it would cost. so i can ship it for right around $7. if you wanna send me a private message with where to send it ill send it out within 7 days, im not about any BS, so if i say ill do it, i will. i just say less than seven days because i wanna make sure i dont make a commitment i cant keep. but i know within a week im sure ill get it sent out.

now since its a 70 watt it doesnt get real hot. the ballast will get warm, but not hot. the bulb is the thing you gota worry about getting too hot. since its an upgraded bulb it runs a bit hotter than the original. right now i have my plants within 3-5'' from them, so you can still get it pretty close. sadly, since its a security light, you may want to try to find a reflector for it.

as for the 250 watt bulb, you may want to look online for a 250 watt ballast kit. it provides you with the ballast, ignitor, capacitor, and wires. the kicker is that it doesnt have a socket. buuut, you can go to home depot and for $13 you can get a "clamp lamp" that has a ceramic socket. and you cut the cord in half and connect it to the 250 watt ballast. the ballast kit is usually around $46. when and if you get ready to do that ill explain more in detail about how to wire it.

anyway, hit me up with a private message and ill be sure to send it out, and ill get a tracking number when i send it that i can give to you so you can figure out where it is.

 

You got a nice grow, I am starting my flowering today infact. I have 7 plants in a 4x3x8 closet off my family room. I have been using CFLs with my aero-hydro. grow method. It's been fun so far. Got some browning issues, but think I have taken care of it. It helps to calibrate my PH meter. Once again, nice grow

 

niiice. thats gunna be some good ass smoke. i cut one of my cola buds today because it was more than half ready. now my other buds will start getting bigger. aaand the shit put me on my ass for my exams. lol.

yeah half strength as first with new nutes is a good idea. yeah those sounded like good nutes, and with them being just a liuttle bit less expensive than fox farms i might order them and try them.