Psychedelic classification

Isnt a Psychedelic like mushrooms or acid or something?

I thought weed was psychoactive, not an actual psychedelic?

 

some newbs claim they "trip" off weed, but they don't they are just acting a fool.

 

correct

 

as johnny said it's a psychoactive, not a psychedelic

 

as in

.........entheogens
........./..............\
Psychedelics .....(cannabis, PCP and ketamine, Salvia divinorum)

as in, cannabis as those others are in the same group (entheogens) as psychedelics, but is not a psychedelic itself

they are all psychoactive though

 

not to mention that wiki is comprised of submissions by any shlub (is that a word?? how bout we use scrub instead) who feels that they think they know something. This means that the info could be right or wrong.

just thought I'd throw that out there ^_^

-Q

 

The info is monitored, go ahead and try to write an article about how Bush slayed 3 million jews, see what happens.

 

i thought psychactive basically just gets you fucked up(weed coke etc..) and psycadelic(sp?) is something that make you trip like shrooms or acid.

 

That pisses me off also : S
When I smoke with someone and he starts talkin 'bout hallucinations :/

 

My first year of smoking I tripped a little sometimes.. Nothing huge but I'd hear shit out of nowhere and see people out the corner of my eyes and see the walls vibrate and shit.. I could probably hit that high again if I wasn't so cheap.. I didn't buzzkill anyone because of it though, hah.

Oh..that's different.

 

I think it is possible to have entheogenic effects with Cannabis, in fact I have experienced it, but not nearly as long as I would have with Mushrooms, LSD, or Mescaline.

 

I can say one thing,people react differently to THC . . .
So maybe it is possible to get a "trip" from weed.
I don't know,i haven't encountered anything like that.

 

well, I have heard the two terms used in conjunction with the experience each substance induces. so, for an example, Cannabis induces a psychoactive response, because it inhibits brain MAO levels and functioning ability. LSD and Shrooms induce a psychedelic experience where brain neuro-chemistry , functioning ability and possible neurological damage may occur.

so. I guess its left to the jury. I say something thats psychoactive isnt as powerful as something psychedelic.

word.

 

a psychoactive is something that alters you state of mind, which is pretty much every drug.
then there's sub groupes like Stimulants (that'd be stuff like meth, coke etc), Depressants (alcohol, morphine etc ), and Hallucinogens (cannabis, lsd etc)
and there's even more sub groups, such as Psychedelic, Dissociative etc

Cannabis is technically in the Psychedelics group

so disregard my old post.

there's a great chart on wiki which shows the different classifications and whatnot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoactive_drug

 

Some strains are "claimed" to have psychedelic effects.. however unless your newbie friend claiming to have "hallucinations" has gotten ahold of some shrooms also... don't hang out with him, hes a fucking waste of time, space, air, energy, and most of all weed.

 

i've tripped a lot in the past. now whenever i smoke a lot of weed, i feel like i'm slightly tripping. no huge hallucinations, but my eyes will play tricks on me, and i react to things as if i were tripping.

one time, i did some shrooms, and then later that night after i had stopped tripping, smoke weed and started tripping again. that time i was sure i was tripping. i barely made it home that night. twas also the only bad trip i've ever had.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoactive_drug

check out the chart.

cannabis takes up three categories
thc takes up three categories, but a DIFFERENT three categories.

Strange, ne?

anyway, the definition of psychadelic, entheogenic, etc. is up for debate simply because the terms are relatively new (after all, Aldous Huxley only coined the term, "psychadelic," less than sixty years ago).


I like to think of cannabis a "pseudo-psychadelic," in that it has some effects that have been attributed as similar to LSD, which I consider to be THE definition of a Psychadelic drug. Marijuana is most certainly not as powerful in terms of its effects on one's consciousness.

Marijuana is also, unlike LSD, a recreational intoxicant, like alcohol, and thusly has some disassociative and depressive attributes (though the degree to which these experienes are felt differs on the drug and the effect it has on the user).

The problem I think with the classification system is that it is very difficult for people to relate an experience as undescribable as the experience of being high. It's difficult because people can't relate something that is felt, in all honesty, differently from person to person. And only a few things that one can say are "universally felt" while high are what we have to go on in terms of classification.

In addition, terms like entheogenic make the matter rather convoluted as entheogenic has been, at least for me, meant to indicate some sort of use of plants/fungi that are used to induce or simply do induce an experience that is relgious/spiritual rather than recreational. This isn't to say that marijuana can't be an entheogen, but I think that in the case of marijuana, which does not always have some sort of profound effect on the mind (sometimes you simply are high and there's nothing special, unique, or spiritual about it), one cannot always classify it as an entheogen.

Nor can it be truly psychadelic as it does not, again, always have a profound effect per use on the mind, like LSD, psilocybin mushrooms, mescaline, DMT, ecstasy, iboga, and others. Though it most certainly CAN, given the right environment, mindset, and circumstances, but not to the same degree/strength that can be induced by some of the above listed drugs.

Hence my preference for the term, pseudo-psychadelic. This doesn't mean it is a "false" psychadelic, but rather that it is not an entire FULL-BLOWN psychadelic experience.