There is a difference between an objectified neural/atomic process and the actual phenomenal experience of lets say red... this is a fact. You can know about all of the physical and structural aspects of color, like about light waves, rods and cones, the retina, etc.., but the actual subjective experience of this allows for a different knowledge of the properties of color, other than the structural and physical process... which are posited by modern science. Scientist cannot refute this, for this subjective knowledge, i.e, the conscious aspect of the color red, its phenomenal nature, is a property that is distinct from the physical and structural properties. U may be know all about the physical and structural properties of a bat's brain, but u will never discover or understand the subjective experience of a bat... there is a reason for this, for there is a difference between the properties of subjective experience, i.e., the mind, and the properties of the brain, i.e., subject and object! And I use "phenomenon" in the Kantian sense of the word. "Phenomenon: an appearance or immediate object of awareness in experience."