Propaganda of Fear & Loss of Civil Liberties...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by svedka, Feb 21, 2018.

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  1. OK, i read ya but was also thinking in terms of the former CIA agent in post #45 when he mentions in the video these examples... basically what ever is needed to get the job done. He (not me) used the term currency for shall we say means of "persuasion"... i guess the CIA either think nobody would believe him or he would have been silenced by now... that or it would appear too obvious, like what's in the news again with Putin silencing former spies...

    Shadow Govt. "the currency they use to control includes"
    * Secrecy
    * Fear
    * Intimidation

    Deep State "currency " is:
    * Money
    * Power
    * Greed
     
  2. I mean currency as in what the 100% of us citizens use to pay taxes and what 98% of them would instantly benefit from were they lawful money in lieu of legal tender. My bad on the vids, my data is throttled and I have kids lol.
     
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  3. Yes, can't argue with that but i don't always think in terms of "content" (the chatter in our minds from societal propaganda, what's hot & what's not, what's in and what's a wing)... i've been in a process of disassociation from egoic (i, me, mine, bodily, temporary form) identity over a few decades, still not there but the collective conceptual consciousness brain fog is lifting more lately...

    In other words my take is that our basic reality is "awareness" and all else that we observe, even thoughts and emotions such as fear (in it's many forms) and love (in it's forms) are temporary content in the CONTAINER of Awareness (the True Self) witnessing this play or drama... if i believed i was merely this body or the thoughts and imaginings in my mind, not to mention the same in everyone else i think i would have given up on humanity decades ago... but this battle of egos such as left, right, liberal, conservative is just drama that can never end without individuals waking up to their higher awareness and reality... could take many thousands of years more at this rate, maybe millions as the mind or intellect which we "think" can solve problems or situations created them in the first place.. so unlikely it can cure them... but i digress... this kind of stuff belongs in a topic other than politics...

    Poly = many or several
    Ticks = blood sucking insect
    Politicians = More than one Blood Sucking Insects
     
  4. Awareness, exactly. Like when we go to the bank we are all subconsciously aware that there's no money there...because we have never been denied a loan for lack of deposits.
     
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  5. Sad but true, that is what i call an illusion within the grand illusion... there is no security in strips of paper or little plastic cards, round metal discs you can flip or cyber coins but in a make believe world of upside down thinking, a world if you will that was conjured up and constantly propped up by thought... but i digress...
     
  6. The plot by the corp. state thickens... (for those who can handle the truth of how the so called "freedom of the press" is being silenced in a very covert manner, small unnoticed increments, just like the Nazis did in Germany)

    Building the Iron Wall
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    Jeff Bezos, the owner of The Washington Post and the founder and CEO of Amazon, has, like Google and some other major Silicon Valley corporations, close ties with the federal security and surveillance apparatus. Bezos has a $600 million contract with the CIA. The lines separating technology-based entities such as Google and Amazon and the government’s security and surveillance apparatus are often nonexistent. The goal of corporations such as Google and Facebook is profit, not the dissemination of truth. And when truth gets in the way of profit, truth is sacrificed.

    Google, Facebook, Twitter, The New York Times, The Washington Post, BuzzFeed News, Agence France-Presse and CNN have all imposed or benefited from the algorithms or filters—overseen by human “evaluators.” When an internet user types a word in a Google search it is called an “impression” by the industry. These impressions direct the persons making the searches to websites that use the words or address the issues associated with them. Before the algorithms were put in place last April, searches for terms such as “imperialism” or “inequality” directed internet users mostly to left-wing, progressive and anti-war sites. Now they are directed primarily to mainstream sites such as The Washington Post. If you type in “World Socialist Web Site,” which has been hit especially hard by the algorithms, you will be directed to the site—but you have to ask for it by name. Searches for associated words such as “socialist” or “socialism” are unlikely to bring up a list in which the World Socialist Web Site appears near the top.

    There are 10,000 “evaluators” at Google, many of them former employees at counterterrorism agencies, who determine the “quality” and veracity of websites. They have downgraded sites such as Truthdig, and with the abolition of net neutrality can further isolate those sites on the internet. The news organizations and corporations imposing and benefiting from this censorship have strong links to the corporate establishment and the Democratic Party. They do not question corporate capitalism, American imperialism or rising social inequality. They dutifully feed the anti-Russia hysteria. An Al-Jazeera report on this censorship begins at 14:07 in this link.

    The corporate oligarchs, lacking a valid response to the discrediting of their policies of economic pillage and endless war, have turned to the blunt instrument of censorship and to a new version of red baiting. They do not intend to institute reforms or restore an open society. They do not intend to address the social inequality behind the political insurgencies in the two major political parties and the hatred of the corporate state that spans the political spectrum. They intend to impose a cone of silence and the state-sanctioned uniformity of opinion that characterizes all totalitarian regimes. This is what the use of FARA, the imposition of algorithms and the attempt to blame Trump’s election on Russian interference is about. Critics and investigative journalists who expose the inner workings of corporate power are branded enemies of the state in the service of a foreign power. The corporate-controlled media, meanwhile, presents the salacious, the trivial and the absurd as news while fanning the obsession over Russia. This is one of the most ominous moments in American history. The complicity in this witch hunt by self-identified liberal organizations, including The New York Times and MSNBC, will come back to haunt them. When the voices for truth are erased, they will be next.

    The steps to tyranny are always small, incremental and often barely noticed, as Milton Mayer wrote in “They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-1945.” By the time a population wakes up, it is too late. He noted:
    But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and the worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and the smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked. If, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the “German Firm” stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

    And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying “Jew swine,” collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you lived in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.
    (much more at the link)
    Building the Iron Wall
     
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  7. I know I'm on vodkas block list but how the fuck can this guy know so much and be so "awake" and still support state socialism. This is a fucking paradox. Anyone who knows this much and talks this much shit about the state is usually at least libertarian if not intelligent enough to be full on anarchist.

    One of the few not on this ridiculous list, please copy paste this for me to him.
     
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  8. The answer is copy and paste

    "Hey baby, I hear the blues a-callin'
    Tossed salad and scrambled eggs.."
     
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  9. I'm not that tech savvy and don't even have a computer. Just a shitty phone.
    I haven't had a computer in years. Probably don't even know how to work the damned things anymore.
     
  10. Phones can copy and paste too.

    I'm not that tech savvy and don't even have a computer. Just a shitty phone.
    I haven't had a computer in years. Probably don't even know how to work the damned things anymore.

    See?

    Technology is a beautiful thing, too many old folks afraid of it.

    "Hey baby, I hear the blues a-callin'
    Tossed salad and scrambled eggs.."
     
  11. Hey now, I'm not that old! Haha! I love technology and wish i had a good computer and could run it but alas, I don't. I'll give it a try from the old phone and see if I can "hack" this guy into reading my replies. Thanks
     
  12. Well if he has you blocked he won't see the reply. I was suggesting his "woke" status is not a result of his own understanding but rather the fact that everything he posts is scripted copy and paste.

    I find his own posts that he writes to be nothing short of crazy.

    "Hey baby, I hear the blues a-callin'
    Tossed salad and scrambled eggs.."
     
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  13. Ah, I get you now and agree. The poor thing is just smart enough to think he is.
     
  14. The freedom to speak up against a corporate elite oligarchy government is a civil right, yet the NRA demonizes this fundamental freedom while blasting media with false information (propaganda) about the 2nd amendment to the point the majority are duped... NRA is all about firearms manufactures and dealers, not at all about patriotism and the 2nd amendment.
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    How the NRA resurrected the Second Amendment
    Here’s the story of how America’s gun politics got so broken.
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    It was said in 1989 after a gunman killed five children at Cleveland Elementary School in Stockton, California. It was said in 1999 after two teenagers killed 13 of their peers at the high school in Columbine, Colorado. It was said in 2012 after a shooter killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. It was said in 2016 after a man killed 49 people at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, and in 2017 after a man killed 58 at a country concert in Las Vegas.

    “Never again.”

    What the NRA doesn’t like to admit is that guns were regulated in early America. People deemed untrustworthy — such as British loyalists unwilling to swear an oath to the new nation — were disarmed. The sale of guns to Native Americans was outlawed. Boston made it illegal to store a loaded firearm in any home or warehouse. Some states conducted door-to-door registration surveys so the militia could “impress” those weapons if necessary. Men had to attend musters where their guns would be inspected by the government
    (more at link)
    How the NRA resurrected the Second Amendment
     
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  15. ANOTHER RECORD BREAKING YEAR FOR OPIUM PRODUCTION IN U.S. OCCUPIED AFGHANISTAN
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    This suggestion coincides with production data since the U.S. invasion, and with statements made by a former U.S. who in 2015 stated that the CIA was actively involved in the Afghan drug trade.

    “I’m ashamed to say that I have participated in these drug smuggling operations on many occasions. For a long time, I tried to convince myself that we were doing it for the right cause, but this burden is destroying me inside and I just can’t stand it anymore” he admitted before the court audience.

    “The CIA has been dealing drugs since its creation. They’ve been smuggling drugs everywhere in the world for the past 60 years, in Taiwan in 1949 to support General Chiang Kai-shek against the Chinese commies, in Vietnam, in Nicaragua, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg” he launched out during the court trial. “We helped the Mujahideen develop poppy cultivation to fight the Soviets, but we took back matters in our own hands in 2001 when we invaded Afghanistan under Bush” he pleaded. ~John F. Abbotsford, a 38-year old Afghan war veteran [Source]

    If you’re hoping or expecting a sudden end to the opioid crisis just because President Trump has called for the government-funded production of anti-opioid television commercials, you’re hope is misplaced. Afghanistan is a major key in this puzzle, as are the pharmaceutical companies.
    Another Record Breaking Year for Opium Production in U.S. Occupied Afghanistan
     
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  16. #76 svedka, Apr 8, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2018
    Didn't appear to be an "on topic" topic (and it may not warrant a new one) for this so i will place it here as it appears as appropriate as any... not much can be said that hasn't already been or at least thought by most with any degree of clarity...

    we all know that the "1st lady" came out early on to lead a pet project (as all previous 1st ladies did) which was BULLYING of all things... this of course has been the inspiration of many snide remarks, jokes and eye rolls but this view takes it a bit further... and of course i agree without digressing... (yet)...

    Dear Melania, If Bullying Matters…
    Dear Melania,

    You don’t know me, but I felt I needed to reach out to you.
    A while ago you said that you wanted to use your position and platform to stop bullying.
    You said you want to protect young people from violence.
    You said you wanted to prevent cruelty.

    Then you largely disappeared.

    I’m not sure if you’ve been offline since then—but things aren’t good here.
    Your husband’s trolls are incessantly harassing teenage survivors of a mass murder. They’re using their images in fake memes designed to engender hatred.
    They’re deploying armies of bots to call these children communists, and to attack their motives and their sexuality and their love of country.
    They are specifically targeting children and exposing them to harm.

    Based on what you’ve said previously about such behavior, I thought you’d want to know this and to speak out explicitly.
    Given that this was your great stated burden, it seemed the kind of thing you’d be moved by.
    If there was ever a perfect moment for you to use your voice for a cause you claim dear to you—it would be this one.

    I know you have a young son, and I imagine you’re fairly protective of him; that you hurt when he hurts, that it enrages you when strangers verbally assault him, that tears come when he is unfairly targeted by adults.
    And seeing as you’re First Lady, I was hoping you’d be protective of these sons and daughters too; that their hurt would matter, that you would be enraged by the wounds they are sustaining, that theirtargeting would bring you to tears.

    Maybe you don’t see it or you don’t really care or you’re too frightened of your husband to say anything—but you need to say something.
    All I know is that children are being damaged—and that you have the opportunity to defend them with one of the largest platforms on the planet.

    All I know, is that you do have an audience with the trolls and the bullies and the abusers.
    You do have influence with these monsters because of your last name and your title—and whether I believe you deserve the lofty position you’ve been given—you could actually use it for good.
    You could be the best version of yourself, and undo some of the toxic filth your husband is manufacturing, nurturing, and amplifying.

    You could save young people’s lives with your simple words.

    From what I know about the man you’re married to, and from the reprehensible way he’s treated women in the past, you might not feel you can say anything. I suspect you live a great deal of time in fear; that you might be rightly terrified to speak.
    But you’re the wife of a sitting President, and that’s far more power than a 14-year old in Florida has to face the bullies and the trolls and the talk show hosts and the senators.

    That’s a terror you will never experience.

    Like I said, I don’t know you, and maybe none of this means anything to you. These could all be wasted words, falling on deaf ears of someone who (like her husband) doesn’t give a damn.

    But I’m hoping that there is humanity there beneath your detached stare.
    I’m hoping compassion and goodness still reside in the hidden recesses of your heart.
    I’m hoping that the mother in you, understands how sickening it is when children are in danger, and that you really did mean it when you said you wanted to stop people from bullying them.

    And, Melania, children are in danger.
    They are being bullied.
    They are being violated.
    They are not safe.

    If their lives are worth defending—say something.
    https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/03/28/dear-melania/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=facebook_page&utm_medium=John Pavlovitz
     
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  17. This could be controversial but i'm not soliciting heated discussions... Jimmy Dore rants on both the major parties be it the elephants or donkeys... it appears he is dedicated to dig for the truth that MSM or LSM (same) hide by state supported propaganda...

    If anything, at least recently, he defends potus 45 and posting this is not at all about targeting 45 or glorifying him... it's about the motive (hidden agenda) for recent wars, none of which were legal if indeed the case Dore brings is accurate... it does appear very likely and that he did his homework to compile factual evidence...

    It was taken from a live broadcast and runs 13 minutes with CC.

     
  18. Ol' Judah is pretty funny.

    I don't believe it is for oil, it is for power and oil is one means for controlling power.

     
  19. I think this is so over looked. The nearest pharmacy from me is in a town of 5000 people. There is 7 pharmacies i can think of off hand in this town. This has all coincided with the invasion of the ME

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  20. A Most Sordid Profession
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    A few thoughts on our disastrous trillion-dollar military:

    It is unnecessary. It does not defend the United States. The last time it did so was in 1945. The United States has no military enemies. No nation has anything even close to the forces necessary to invade America, and probably none the desire. A fifth of the budget would suffice for any real needs.

    “Our boys” are not noble warriors protecting democracy, rescuing maidens, and righting wrongs. They are, like all soldiers, obedient and amoral killers. Pilots bombing Iraq or Syria know they are killing civilians. They do not care. If ordered to bomb Switzerland, they would do it. This is the nature of all armies. Glamorizing this most reprehensible trades is just a means of usefully stimulating the pack instinct which we often call patriotism.

    The militarily is America’s worst enemy. It does enormous damage to the United States while providing almost no benefit. Start with the war on Vietnam that cost hugely in money and lives, ours and theirs, with no benefit. Iraq: high cost, no benefit. Afghanistan: High cost, no benefit. Syria: High cost, no benefit.

    The costs in lives and money do not include the staggering cost of weapons that do nothing for America or Americans. Do you, the reader, believe that you are safer because of the F-35? Do a dozen aircraft carriers improve the lives of your children? Will the B-21, an unbelievably expensive new thermonuclear bomber, make your streets safer? Then add the bleeding of engineering talent better spent on advancing America’s economic competitiveness. The country has many crying needs, falls behind China, but money and talent go to the military.

    We cannot escape from the soldiers. The armed forces have embedded themselves so deeply into the country that they have almost become the country. America is little more than a funding mechanism for what clumsily may be called the military-industrial-intelligence-media-Israeli complex. Some of these entities belong to the military (NSA). Some depend on it (Lockheed-Martin). Some use it to their own ends (Israel), but the military is the central infection from which the other symptoms flow. Congress? A storefront, a subcommittee of the Knesset or, as P. J. O’Rourke put it, a parliament of whores. Factories, jobs, contracts, towns depend on military spending. If the Second Marine Division folded, Jacksonville NC would dry up and blow away. So would dozens of other towns. Without military spending, California’s economy would crash. Universities depend on military research funding.

    (Continued at link) and yes, i agree with the article or would not have posted it.
    A Most Sordid Profession
     
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