Poll: Political views of grasscity revised.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Apstract, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. #1 Apstract, Sep 14, 2011
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    What do you like? Pick multiples if needed

    here is some discriptions from wiki: (black dots are main categories others are sub categories)

    • Autocracy (The Rule of One)
    o Dictatorship
     Military dictatorship
     Stratocracy
     Despotism
    o Kleptocracy
    o Kritarchy
    o Monarchy
     Absolute monarchy
     Constitutional monarchy
     Duchy
     Grand Duchy
     Diarchy
     Enlightened absolutism
     Elective monarchy
     Hereditary monarchy
     Non-Sovereign Monarchy
     Popular monarchy
     Principality
     New Monarchs
     Self-proclaimed monarchy
     Regent
    o Plutocracy
     Timocracy
    o Police state
    o Theocracy
    o Tyranny
    • Oligarchy (Rule by Few)
    o Saeculum obscurum
    o Aristocracy
    • Anarchy (Absence of organized government)
    o Ochlocracy
    o Tribalism
    • Anarchism (Government of consent, not coercion)
    o Anarchist communism
    o Libertarian socialism
    o Libertarian municipalism
    o Anarcho-capitalism
    o Isocracy
    • Socialism
    o Socialist state
    o Communist state
    o Collective leadership
    o State socialism
    o Soviet republic (system of government)
    • Fascism (Totalitarian Single-Party State)
    o National Socialism
    • Democracy (The Say of the People)
    o Consociationalism
    o Deliberative democracy
    o Democratic socialism
    o Totalitarian democracy
     Dictatorship of the proletariat
    o Direct democracy
    o Egalitarianism
    o Futarchy
    o Open source governance
    o Participatory democracy
    o Representative democracy
     Parliamentary system
     Consensus government
     Westminster system
     Polyarchy
     Presidential system
     Semi-presidential system
    • Republic (The Rule of law)
    o Constitutional republic
    o Parliamentary republic
    o Federal Republic
    • Goðorð System (Private Government)
     
  2. The government should only protect our negative rights.

    It should be funded through user fees and excises, not from individual income.
     
  3. You probably should have put libertarianism...that would have won...but I put anarchism, though I don't generally refer to myself as that. Actually, I don't really refer to myself as anything, usually.
     
  4. I would like to be in an autocracy ruled by me. No I am not joking
     
  5. True Democracy or anarchism for me or combination.
     
  6. democratic socialism!
     
  7. I would accept either of the following, Democratic Socialism, Council Communism, Syndicalism, Libertarian Socialism
     
  8. #8 dubaba, Sep 15, 2011
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    In relation to the US, the federal government should have limited power but be a democratic socialist republic that insures the rights of all, I believe power should be localized to states and counties. Workers should have collective control over there places of work, and people should have collective control over there local communities.
     
  9. Our constitution is fine the way it is, we simply need to follow it.
     

  10. aka Communism
     
  11. socialist democracy, i believe we should support the unfortunate and i think we should all be very happy to pay taxes. Not communist, I dont think people need to be on the same playing level, obviously there will be rich people and poor people but we can all give people the same basic fundamental rights
     
  12. Anarcho-capitalism
     
  13. I choose Autocracy or Dictatorship but only if I get to be the dictator.


    I honestly don't think labels work in politics because you could have a socialist attitude towards one thing and a democratic attitude towards another thing etc.

    I don't even get how people can actually say they are a Republican or democrat or whatever
     
  14. Liberals in America are completely Communist, and our current system is Communist. They just don't know it.

    The 10 planks of Communism as outlined by Karl Marx in the Communist Manifesto.

    1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
    5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
    6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
    8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
    10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.

    And how they apply to us.

    The 10 PLANKS stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are...

    1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
    Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)

    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
    Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".

    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
    Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.

    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
    Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).

    5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
    Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.

    6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
    Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.

    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
    Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned"… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

    8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
    Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.

    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
    Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.

    10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
    Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested !! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.


    “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”

    ― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
     
  15. How about a government where gangja is the head of the state?
     
  16. I have to worry about not having required schooling or some standard as otherwise what of those families that direct their children in strange shit... or lock them in some room and don't teach them at all?
     
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  18. So your saying we shouldn't give a shit about the future lives of humanity?
     
  19. Democratic-Republic

    Yes he is precisely saying that. His kind cares about the most fit humans and secretly wishes the rest will die off
     
  20. True democracy, also, no more fucking undeclared wars!
     

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