Pics... Brown spots?

Discussion in 'Sick Plants and Problems' started by ChiefFuzzyNutts, Nov 25, 2011.

  1. #1 ChiefFuzzyNutts, Nov 25, 2011
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    First time grow:

    My baby is 6 weeks and 2 days into flowering.
    Unknown strain ( looks sativa-ish )
    Under 250w 8u CFL with a few regular 60watt CFL's on side
    Had 5 feedings of ProGro ( last feeding of nutes was 5 days ago) * during flowering*
    Resting in a 5 gal bucket of FFOF
    Sex: female
    3 feet tall , give or take

    These brown dots have shown up before in vegetation
    Never in any particular pattern
    I typically chopped em off if they showed these signs
    But they seemed to stop showing up when I turned to 12/12
    After 5 weeks it started showing on the blades coming out of the main cola.
    It is the only place that these dots show
    From my research I'm pretty confident it isn't any type insect
    And I'm pretty sure it isn't the light burning it cause it's 10 in from the top ( further than I've kept the light the entire grow) and when I put my hand on top of cola you cant really feel heat

    Two questions:

    Do you think it'll be okay?

    What do you think I could do to resolve the situation?



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  2. It is a Ca def.
    If your this far along in flower assuming that it ends in a couple weeks, don't worry about it. Next time supplement your soil with 2 tsb of garden lime per gallon of soil to help. If your getting these spots in veg, they are normally related to a Ph imbalance. If they occur in flower this is due to cannabis using the nutrients at a higher ratio than veg.

    You will can find a ppm meter and test your water. If you water is under 200 ppm the your should practice supplement your water with cal-mag. But if you feel the need to practice and cure them now, buy some epsom salt.

    Enjoy, friend!
     
  3. I doubt it's as simple as a single nutrient deficiency.

    Fuzz nuts bro... Switch to organics or BUST ON!!!!!!

    good luck and c ya round organicx

    for the record- FFOF is not organic. thanks,
     
  4. [quote name='"515"']It is a Ca def.
    If your this far along in flower assuming that it ends in a couple weeks, don't worry about it. Next time supplement your soil with 2 tsb of garden lime per gallon of soil to help. If your getting these spots in veg, they are normally related to a Ph imbalance. If they occur in flower this is due to cannabis using the nutrients at a higher ratio than veg.

    You will can find a ppm meter and test your water. If you water is under 200 ppm the your should practice supplement your water with cal-mag. But if you feel the need to practice and cure them now, buy some epsom salt.

    Enjoy, friend![/quote]

    Guess the big question now is should I just ride this out and hope for the best or try to address the problem now. It's about 6.5 weeks into flowering from what I've read I should flower her at least 10 weeks. Maybe 12. This is from gathering info about sativa-dominant strains.

    What you think?
    Or anyone else who has some input.
     
  5. im in the same boat but like 4 weeks before you, im thinking low ph, mines 5.9-6.0, or a cal Deficiency.
     
  6. Sorry I'm not on a lot. You should be fine. But you can run 4 tsp of epsom salt per gallon of water with your current feeding schedule. One application should work.
     
  7. [quote name='"isg1315122"']im in the same boat but like 4 weeks before you, im thinking low ph, mines 5.9-6.0, or a cal Deficiency.[/quote]

    That's respectable bro. My ph is same. I'm going with cal def. But now I'm just trying to decide wether to try to fix it now or just let it go considering she's about ready.
     
  8. [quote name='"515"']Sorry I'm not on a lot. You should be fine. But you can run 4 tsp of epsom salt per gallon of water with your current feeding schedule. One application should work.[/quote]

    It's all good. I'm hoping so. Alright cool, I may do that next time I water. I think I'm gonna pull nutes for now so I don't have to worry about flushing her later. So I may just water with epsom. Good lookin out man
     
  9. So she is 7 weeks 2 days into flowering. Should I just let it be. Or try and fix the problem now?

    Prob flower for at least 4 more weeks
     
  10. how does she look today any sings of change? pulling nutes with four weeks left is a little early i would say unless you plan to supplement naturally. but a foliar spray would help it if you dont want to use nutes.
     
  11. [quote name='"isg1315122"']how does she look today any sings of change? pulling nutes with four weeks left is a little early i would say unless you plan to supplement naturally. but a foliar spray would help it if you dont want to use nutes.[/quote]

    The whole thing,overall, seems great. Foliage seems healthy. Conditions healthy. Buds seem to be progressing well. They just started producing "frost". And are swelling slowly but surly. The problem only persists on the blades sticking out of the main cola. It seems to be steady but the blades are all yellow and brown. The cola seems healthy though. I did notice that the damaged blades sticking out of the main cola seem healthy where it starts to go into the bud (*no spots or discoloration*) so it only starts right outside of the bud and to the tips. I'll post some pics up tomorrow. She's asleep right now. Thanks for looking out man. I think I will ease her back into nutes. It's been about 2 weeks since she last was fed. I think I was scared I wouldn't flush her properly and have some harsh smoke. And now realize I quit too early.
     
  12. [quote name='"isg1315122"']how does she look today any sings of change? Pulling nutes with four weeks left is a little early i would say unless you plan to supplement naturally. But a foliar spray would help it if you dont want to use nutes.[/quote]



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  13. it seems like shes hanging in there, just a few weeks to go right? looks like she is just using that P up. which isnt a problem especially not if you skipped a feeding by chance.

    so at 2 weeks left i would just use water and some molasses, and she should be ready for a final flush after a week then chop time. have you checked those trichromes? and dont rush it, if you need to go longer for the trichs just start to ween her off the food if you think she needs more time. then follow norm harvesting procedures.
     
  14. #15 SeanDawg, Dec 10, 2011
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    It is a calcium def. looking at some upward curling leaves may indicate magnesium def also. most likely caused by fukked up pH. can fix it with lime.
    and yeah staying organic could have helped that. the bacteria and fungus in an organic soil will usually tend to balance out most pH situations. good luck!
     
  15. #16 ChiefFuzzyNutts, Dec 10, 2011
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    [quote name='"isg1315122"']it seems like shes hanging in there, just a few weeks to go right? looks like she is just using that P up. which isnt a problem especially not if you skipped a feeding by chance.

    so at 2 weeks left i would just use water and some molasses, and she should be ready for a final flush after a week then chop time. have you checked those trichromes? and dont rush it, if you need to go longer for the trichs just start to ween her off the food if you think she needs more time. then follow norm harvesting procedures.[/quote]

    Yeah she seems steady. Although the blades from the main cola look pretty bad it seemed to stop progressing. (as far as the damage) I checked the trichromes about 2 days ago (when she turned 8 weeks in flowering) and as far as I can tell I've got about 80% clear, 20% milky.

    From what I've researched sativa(dominant) strains need to flower 10-12 weeks minimum. I know there are so many angles to this, but considering I have no idea what genetics she is I'll have to wing it. I'm doing the best I can without rushing. Haha. Not an easy thing to do. I'm so ready to sample...but no... I shall wait.

    I did skip a few feedings when this problem arose. But I dipped her back into some nutes. I'll prob give her one last feeding tonight and then just water for the next 2 or so weeks. I've heard great things about molasses...but am not very knowledgable about it. You have any advice as far as applying it (how,when,when to stop, or anything else I should know) considering this is my first grow and would love to not screw it up. Haha. I'll research it as well.

    Much appreciated!
     
  16. Molasses is great food for bacteria not so much for fungi in your soil. If you've been using synthetic nutes throughout your grow (no offense, but it looks like you have been). Then most all your bacteria / fungi are dead already. So you have no real need for molasses. :( sry dude.
     
  17. [quote name='"SeanDawg"']Molasses is great food for bacteria not so much for fungi in your soil. If you've been using synthetic nutes throughout your grow (no offense, but it looks like you have been). Then most all your bacteria / fungi are dead already. So you have no real need for molasses. :( sry dude.[/quote]

    I hear ya...hey bro, you don't have to say you're sorry. Haha. You're just speaking the truth. That's why I'm on here. For good advice and knowledge. I've been using Bitonicare (veg: liquid karma and pro gro; flowering: pro bloom) but from what I can find all 3 of those are organic...not sure
     
  18. Yep as some others have said looks exactly like a Ca problem. Dolomite lime fixed it for me!
     
  19. [quote name='"ChiefFuzzyNutts"']

    I hear ya...hey bro, you don't have to say you're sorry. Haha. You're just speaking the truth. That's why I'm on here. For good advice and knowledge. I've been using Bitonicare (veg: liquid karma and pro gro; flowering: pro bloom) but from what I can find all 3 of those are organic...not sure[/quote]

    Simple way to tell is to look on the back of the bottle. And where is says derived from. If it has a chemical formula. You have your answer. As for how to use molasses, you could brew a simple tea. Bat guano 2 tbsp, molasses 1 tbsp. Let it brew, n good for feed. Or just mix 1-2 tbsp of molasses per gallon to feed whatever bacteria in your soil. I know a lot of other guys that dont like molasses, but thats a different convo. Hope that helps good luck! =)
     

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