Part of Trump's 2005 tax return released

Discussion in 'Politics' started by well highdrated, Mar 15, 2017.

  1. yes, you kind of made my point about the coverage of things here, including pizza gate. See, it was never about a pizza place, and only when "ping pong" pizza came into it is when it started gaining "attention". However, nothing at least that I've read, has exhonerated John Pedesta of anything at all. Nothings been filed of course, but lets be real, trump can't even get his damn cabinet in place. There was plenty of smoke with it, whether the dems paid attention or not. just because it isn't talked about on the msm doesn't mean it isn't in the news right? There have been a ton of roundups for child trafficking around the country that are believed to be linked to this circle of abuse. That the whole pizzagate thing was/is about. Its no surprise that a known clinton associate wouldn't press charges not only against her, but against her pals right? All that money bought their "protection".
    But I digress, again, the whole point was to show that there is a lot of hearsay and jumping to conclusions with the russia ties. Until its proven otherwise, thats all it is, is an unfounded accusation. If it gets proven correct, I will gladly come back and concede my point, but, again I ask, if every single journalist, not to mention a lot of the intelligence community is looking, and has been for close to a year now, wheres to proof? Why isn't there any? Its just simply not there, and like I said, you don't need a tax return to find it.
    the vault 7 leaks brought a lot of info to light, if you bothered to look. Including, that the CIA absolutely has the ability to do bad bad things online, and then "leave traces" to make it look like its a different agency. That was on the FIRST page of the wikileaks report. But, thats all but ignored over this whole thing. All because the media is hell bent on their narrative, and forcing it down everyones throat. They will, and have, gone to extreme measures already to make it happen, why haven't they been able to close this deal then?
     
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  2. I can go and find lists of known obama associates that had meetings and dealings with the russians, including the clintons if I wanted to. And you know that. So whats the point? There isn't one, and again, the fact that he went over there to talk about some tv station, and that somehow proves that he is in bed with russia? PLease. Grasping for straws. If thats really all they got, they don't have shit. Plain and simple. Hillary tried to get putin to push a "reset" button so to restart better relations with mother russia...where was this outrage then? She obviously had to have some kind of nasty intentions, just like Mike Flynn did, a whole damn year before he was even involved with trumps cabinet. <---sarcasm/irony
     
  3. I'm not sure if you would find anything similar. Why was it kept a secret? Why didn't he disclose this information as he should have?
    As I posted before, here's the point:

    "Flynn's trip appeared to run afoul of rules barring former military officers from accepting consulting fees, gifts or travel expenses from a foreign government"

    Everytime someone in trump's administration does something questionable people rush to point out that Clinton or Obama or whoever else were just as corrupt. How does that help?
    Two wrongs don't make a right. Right now trump's the president and his actions or actions of his appointees is what we should be concerned about, rather than what Obama could've done or did or didn't do.
     
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  4. to be honest, the reason they asked him to resign was because he was dishonest with pence, and left him hanging out to dry. Also, it came to light just a few days ago, that he had to file for a lobbying exemption for doing some kind of consulting work for turkey as well, right up before he was assigned to the campaign. He didn't tell anyone about that, until he was walking out the door. Thats fucked up! lol.
    So heres the thing, I get this may be difficult to grasp, but as president he probably has a list that his campaign people bring to him. You have top cabinet positions, and people qualified for them. Among them trump has a number of high ranking former military officers. Thats not by accident. Flynn was a highly decorated officer, and you genuinely take an officer at his word. Why? Because being an officer in the armed services is one of the highest honors that can be bestowed, and generally you don't get there by being a lying cheating asshole.
    I truly believe the whole thing with the russian tapes on flynn is fucking garbage. And everyone should be absolutely appalled by what the intelligence community did to him, and to the current freely elected administration. There is no denying that Mike Flynn, while a former high ranking official in the armed forces, was retired at this point in 2016. Therefore he is/was a private citizen. There is no doubt that there are supposed to be protections in place so that the government is not aloud to do this to us as private citizens. They literally used illegal wiretaps to bring down a high ranking appointee in the newly elected government. Again, the intelligence community, or at least part of it, is trying to deliberately undermine our president to push their own agenda.
    Same thing with these tax returns from the other day. 100% illegal to do. I believe its a felony as a matter of fact.
    You see, heres the deal with the taxes. Its a complete lose/lose situation for him. If he releases them, they will be picked apart, line by line, and someone will make up a story. "he didn't give xxxx to charity" "his depreciation was off by 1%" "he pays half of his salary to putin as tribute to his great friend and puppet master" "he took losses on xx company for an extra 30 days"....you get the point? Nothing positive would ever come of him releasing them, so whats the point? Thats why his supporters dont give a shit. And to be real, I also think its the distraction from the real issue, which is our healthcare fiasco. Can't believe more people aren't talking about this shit...but its not really trumps plan, its paul ryan. So I guess thats why its not news for 24 hours straight.
     
  5. I agree, it certainly doesn't help, but then again, why did no one give a shit then? Thats why its always pointed out, because of the sheer hypocrisy of this entire thing. The sheer hypocrisy of the whole left/media witch hunt. Literally 85% of the media of this country have a hardon for the guy, and everyone forgoes journalistic integrity just because they don't like him and it is the "in" thing. and of course, even worse, the greasy, slimy career politicians and bureaucrats that are grandstanding, while raping this country and its people. literally and figuratively. pelosi, schumer, most of them are all slimy politicians who dont give a fuck, and only trying to use their "platform" to better themselves. Washington DC is a slimepit, and I certainly hope that trump can keep his promise to get rid of them. If he can win with something in this healthcare bill, and then cut taxes, the dems are fucked..why aren't they trying to work with them, instead of blocking always? Makes zero sense.
    The biggest issue, especially for dems, is where do they go from here? Who is leading that party? Who will run in 2020? Bernie is not the answer, no way his socialism shit wins over the working class. It will be a similar outcome, maybe higher turnout in liberal states, like california and new york (which were the only reason trump lost popular election, california. hence the electoral college, otherwise cali and new york would always elect the president) IMO the dems are being stupid, acting like petulent children, totally obstructing everything they possibly can. Instead they should be reloading and trying to figure out where to go. Its gonna be a land slide in 2018 unless they get their shit together. All their grandstanding makes for pretty headlines on the coasts, but I can assure the midwest is sick of it, hence why trump is our president, lol.
     
  6. and i'm heading to bed, but I believe you were the one disavowing the whole clinton/uranium thing?

    heres a cool little article I found for your reading pleasure, from the "failing" new york times
    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...ssed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0
     
  7. Trump hasn't paid taxes in 18 years.
    Hillary said so herself.
     
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  8. "About half of the people he wants to deport—they’ve paid more taxes than Donald Trump has paid.” - Hillary Clinton
     
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  9. that's an accurate statement.
     
  10. Combined, ya
     
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  11. you anti tax people are the biggest embarrassments to human existence yet. Do you realize how much turmoil we would be in if taxes were eliminated from economy? Gross hunger, poverty, less educated populous and a crumbling infrastructure. Think about it.
    Tax evaders should be deported.
     
  12. Sanders also isn't a fucking multi millionaire


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  13. Where to??
    Will it be big enough for them AND the societal leeches that drain funds?



     
  14. Bahahahaha!!! Not even worth a longer reply
     
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  15. yes he is, and he was saying that trump paid a higher tax rate than the guy who wants to tax the shit out of everyone. socialism sucks, and bernie is just another talking head, he's no different than the rest of the politicians, other than being openly socialist.
     
  16. considering it was proven that he paid almost $40 million in taxes in 2005, that is a 100% false statement, unless we are deporting millionare illegals, which I'm guessing we are not, since they aren't here illegally, they stay in the palaces in the desert while they encourage the lower class to go to america and drain our resources.
     
  17. i doubt that she meant each individual... there are very few people who pay millions in taxes as an individ
    Illegal immigrants pay billions in taxes.
    Did you think that was in reference to every single individual paying more than Trump?.... I hope you are not being serious, if that was your interpretation, because there's not that many native born citizen that pay millions as individuals.
     
  18. Illegal immigrants pay about $12 billion in taxes a year, so either way her statement was retarded.
     
  19. There's dumb, and then there's claiming that one tax return form from 2005 vindicates Trump. I don't even want to subject myself to the idiotic conversation that will ensue with you. Just take some time and think about how dense someone must be to truly believe that, out of maybe 45 to 50 years of paying taxes, our having seen one form from 12 years ago vindicates him. It's sad and hilarious all at once.

    And yet expected.

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  20. As of August 2015, Sanders had an estimated net worth of $110,014 to $550,999, according to 24/7 Wall St. Trump was estimated at $2.9 billion to $10 billion. He could POSSIBLY be a millionaire, but their incomes aren't even remotely comparable. This is the part where you call it fake news because you didn't bother to research your claims before someone else blew massive holes in them. Hahaha.

    Not to mention, the point has flown so far over your head that I doubt there's any point in me even telling you. Lol.

    But excellent job forming the weakest argument possible to support arguably the least intelligent, most greedy, and most all-around terrible person who has ever led our country.

    I see a lot of him in you. :)

    This is actually kind of fun. The diehard Trump supporters are so attached to him that they are almost universally ill-prepared for any form of intelligent conversation. It makes me feel both smarter, yet much less-confident in the future of our country. Kind of like any time I hear Trump speak.

    Note: I have tried over and over to reset my view of Trump and give him another chance. After all, I am not attached to either party. But every time I do, I see a press conference where he shows us all (well, those of us whose minds are open enough to see something negative in him) just how dumb he is and how unwilling he is to use factual evidence for anything he does. See wiretapping claim. Lol.

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