Outdoor pest (pics)

Discussion in 'Sick Plants and Problems' started by Marie-jane, Jun 10, 2006.

  1. Hello everyone

    Im currently in my 2nd outdoor grow but this time im not having as much luck as last time at a week a half old there already getting eaten by something. I know its outdoor and there are lots of bugs do you think at this stage, it would be safe enouf to put pesticide just at this point in veg. I have in total 23 plants and this is only happening to 3 of my plants.

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    Other than that things are going good this ealry in the grow

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    M-J
     
  2. looksl ike you have 2 pests there eating at your plants

    its safe to use pesticides but have you chosen to use organic or chemical?
     
  3. looks to me like caterpillars/snail/slug and something else.

    Try crushing up lots of garlic in water and spraying that all over your plants, if the bugs return then you might want to go onto a stronger chemical pesticide.
     
  4. Would one of those be leaf miners Stitch?
     
  5. Went to the patch today and I found 1 snail and 2 caterpillars, so I killed them before they ''run away'':D Plant are looking better but still a bit eaten anything else you guys consider using other than garlic or will it do the job?

    M-J
     
  6. Check this out Marie-jane. It is from Stitch's guide. You probably have all three and I would treat for all of them.

    Caterpillars (cutworms, cabbageworms, ect.)
    chewed leaves. Damage: Most caterpillars feed on plants of some kind, they can feed on wool and hair (the clothes moth) Some are pests in gardens and yards. The leaf roller caterpillars can cause some severe damage of trees and shrubs, while others, such as cabbage loopers, and cutworms can cause severe damage to gardens.
    If you find caterpillars have been eating at your plants, garden and you need to get rid of them are several non-toxic and least toxic methods to choose from.

    Controls
    Hand picking: Easiest way to control them is to pick them up and knock them into a bucket of soapy. If you are scared about handling caterpillars, you can use some gloves or have someone else pick them up for you.

    Chemical:
    BTK in dust form can be used to kill caterpillars. BTK can also be used to foliar spray your plants. One tablespoon of neem oil added to your BT mix helps stick the mix to the plants better when you are foliar spraying.. BTK is available in liquid form. Apply BTK on all of the leaves both top and underside If you decided using the dust kind, spray your plants down with water before you apply the dust Apply every week to 2 weeks and or after it rains. The caterpillars must eat the BT as they are feeding on foliage in order for the caterpillars to be rid of.


    Organic ways:
    Insecticidal soaps, neem, oil, and spinosad are the safest insecticides that can be used to control.. Soaps and neem are non-toxic and are great to use when you have a lot of pets and want to be friendly to nature and its animals. Spinosad works very good in controlling the caterpillar population and is non toxic to wild-life, pets, and humans. It hardly has any impact at all on the plants.

    Slugs and snails (Outdoor Growers)
    Both slugs and snails travel by secreting a mucus or slime on which they glide. When you see the slime trail on your plants and have damage, then it was most likely caused by slugs or snails. When your garden is very moist slugs and snails can live for a long time as this is the key to them living a long time. If you keep your garden not as moist and dark slugs and snails cannot live as long. They stay away from the sunlight along with hiding around moist dark areas in the garden. They also hide in Mulches, short stubby plants, boards, and in the soil. They come out mostly at night and on cloudy days. They feed by chewing holes into your leaves and can clip the edges of leaves and flowers. Slugs and Snails are mostly pests of seedlings and herbaceous plants that are close to the ground. In order to confirm the damage was caused by slugs or snails, look for a silvery trail of mucous.


    Controls
    Snails can cause massive damage to gardens if given a chance. It is very unlikely you will be able to completely rid your garden of them, but try to keep the numbers down as much as possible to keep healthy and undamaged plants. Here are some ways to control slugs and snails.

    Reduce slug and snail damage dramatically by watering in the morning instead of the evening.

    If you do see any slugs or snails avoid putting mulches and dark hiding cover. Oak leaf mulch will deter slugs and snails.


    Handpick slugs and snails at night. Use a bucket to put them into soapy water.
    Lay boards down in the garden to trap slugs and snails.

    Diatomaceous earth sprinkled around you're your plants base of the stems will help keep out slugs and snails, but it can also stop other beneficial insects.


    Soak the soil with wormwood tea.


    Put copper wire around your garden or at the base of your. Slugs get a big shock when they touch copper Just make sure you don't trap them inside your garden when you put copper around your garden.

    Beer is good to use, because slugs love beer!. Take a container of beer and bury it in your garden with it just barley above the ground so they can drink it and drown.


    And one of our favorite additives.... SALT!

    Predators that like to eat snails include: snakes, toads, frogs, fireflies, predatory snails, birds, beetles. The large, black iridescent beetles you see in your yard are predators. Firefly larvae eat on slugs and snails and can literally wipe out the development of them by eating 40 to 60 snails from just 1 larva of a firefly!!

    Please be kind to nature and pets and stay away from poison slug bates. If you have seen what it can do to pets you wouldn't want to ever use it again!!!

    Poisonous baits are hazardous to all living beings and animals. Slugs and snails can become resistant to baits. So its better to use other methods and stay away from chemical baits, all the while protecting nature.


    Leaf miners
    These Little creatures are a pain to get rid of, the miners eat and dig squiggly lines into your leaves all the while planting there larvae in them making it hard to get rid of them. They plant there eggs in the leaves in mid When they hatch they feed off of your leaves until they get big enough to pupate. Pupation occurs within the leaf or in the soil beneath the plant. After they emerge the entire cycle will start over and you will have a bigger infestation.

    Controls
    Controls: Natural control for these insects is difficult. You can remove affected leaves and discard them. Chemical control is hard and is ment towards the emerging adults. Since the larvae is well protected within the leaf. Neem oil will work well.
     
  7. Are you sure??? my catapiliars always eat from the edge of the leaf inwards, same for grasshopper, but what do i know...

    I really cant tell if thats holes in the leaf or burn marks.
     
  8. HIGH All, ahhh sure glad it's Frieday...leaf minors no....catapillers no...as Dier said they eat from the outside in....this is why I tell people to identify what yor pest is before useing anything...but hey our Buddy say's "What do I Know"...*LOL* you soooooo funny. What I think you should be looking into are Flea Beetles...have them on tomatoes every year. I use my fingers to kill them.....watch them though they jump just like a Flea.

    Yellow sticky traps work....but they (Flea Beetle) don't do much damage other than cosmetic looks. Identification is the key. Your best bet is the Yellow sticky traps.
     
  9. Ok sorry.
    Unoit's vote out weighs mine. He knows better than me. Go with what he says, Dier too.
     

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