OTC 'highs'

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  1. Getting High off of Cough Medicine:

    -------------------Fun with DXM---------------------


    DXM is a chemical found in many cough syrups, gel caps, cough drops and some tablets and capsules. It's effects will be much like Special K and PCP, you will feel sedation and euphoria. In other words, you can trip hard on it.

    ----------------Things to be remember---------------------

    DXM products containing acetaminophen or guaifenesin should not be used recreationally. High doses of guaifenesin can cause vomiting, and high doses of acetaminophen can be fatal.
    Drixoral Cough and Fever contains acetaminopen, so don't use this brand!
    Use brands with Dextromethorphan as it's only active ingredient.

    Some of the other ingredients you don't want:

    Guastefin - An expectorant. This will
    often lead to nausea, vomiting or diahrrhea. If
    you can find a brand without it, I highly
    recommend it.

    Acetemetophin - A pain reliever. Although
    it takes a dose closer to 50,000mg to be fatally
    toxic, this should also be avoided if possible.
    It will put a strain on your liver and prolonged
    use can permanently damage your liver.

    Psudeoephedrine - A decongestant.
    Ephedrine acts much like methamphetamines. In
    addition to clearing out bronchial passageways,
    it is a stimulant and it is possible to OD on
    higher doses. This must be avoided if you have
    any sort of heart conditions.

    Occasional gastrointestinal symptoms and skin reactions have been reported.

    The large amount of glucose, thickeners, etc., present in many cough syrups may be hard on your kidneys and pancreas.

    DXM is mildly addictive.

    -------------Cough Medicines that have DXM----------------

    When you buy any of the following products make sure it has Dextromethorphan in the ingredients.

    Cough Syrup DXM:
    Found in Robitussin Max. Strength Cough (tussin max. strength works, too) or Vick's Formula 44. Take on an empty stomach or maybe eat some crackers or other carbohydrates, but no greasy food.
    (The best way to take cough syrup is to mix one part cough syrup and one part ginger ale and drink).
    Watch how much you take! You can OD on this stuff!

    Gel Caps DXM:
    Found in Drixoral Cough Liquid Caps. You should crack open gel caps before swallowing. You need to take about 15 if they are 15mg. This way has less of an affect than cough syrup.

    Tablets and Capsules DXM:
    Found in Coricidin Cough and Cold. 7 or 8 tabs. does the job just fine if they are 30mg. Take more if you don't feel anything within a hour.

    Cough Drops DXM:
    Found in the brand Sucrets (the ones that come in a bag, not a tin). I would crush 14 to 15 cough drops and mix it with a glass of ginger ale. This way tastes the best but may case nausea!


    Positive effects:

    -mood lift
    -dissociation of mind from body
    -creative dreamlike experiences
    -visual and aural hallucinations

    Neutral effects:

    -pupil dilation

    Negative effects:

    -may cause upset stomach, vomiting
    -may cause tachycardia (racing, pounding heeart)


    Avoid using DXM in combination with alcohol. Read the labels, avoid using cold remedies which contain tylenol or other medications in combination with DXM. Make sure the product contains only DXM as the active ingredient.

    Effects at low dosage can be similar to alcohol producing carefree clumsiness with a touch of psychedelic and speedy effect. Intense and rhythmic music induces a state of euphoria and dancing becomes fun. On a higher dose imagination can become vividly experienced, feelings of dissociation from the body can occur and on very high doses profound alterations in consciousness.

    -----------------How much to take--------------------

    Normal Dose 150-350mg, you can take up to 1200mg without killing yourself.

    It really depends on how much you take. There are four different kinds of experiences, based on the dosage that are called plateaus. The first plateau is a mild stimulant effect with a little bit of a buzz, and has been compared to Ecstasy. The second plateau is more intoxicating and has been compared to being drunk and stoned at the same time. The third plateau is dissociative, like a lower dose of ketamine. The fourth plateau is fully dissociative like a higher dose of ketamine (Special K).

    You should not attempt higher plateau doses unless you have someone with you who can take care of you in case you get sick or freak out. Many things can happen unexpectedly on upper plateaus, such as spontaneous memory recall, complex delusions, hallucinations, out-of-body experiences, near-death experiences, and perceived contact with spirits or aliens. You need to be pretty stable and grounded before you can handle these things.

    ---------------Extracting DXM from Cough Syyrup--------------

    This is if you want to get almost pure DXM.

    The Agent Lemon process is a newer and in all honesty a much better method for extracting DXM. It takes less time, doesn't involve playing with flammable and toxic fumes, and doesn't require sodium hydroxide. Here is the Agent Lemon method:

    The Mission:
    Extract DXM from cough syrups with materials and equipment that one could buy without any trouble at your nearest K-Mart.

    The Materials:
    DXM-containing cough syrup. This process will probably produce a dangerous product if you use a syrup that contains any active ingredients other than DXM. Just use Robo Max. Cough.
    Ordinary Household ammmonia (clear, not lemon or some other scent)
    Lighter Fluid (I use a "Zippo". Make sure it evaporates with no residue.)
    Citric Acid. Available as a canning supply at your neighborhood supermarket. You can use lemon juice, but it's not recomended.


    Some containers.
    Two large zipper-seal (Zip-Lock) plastic freezer bags.

    What to do:

    Prepare ahead of time a solution of the citric acid in water. For two bottles of syrup (8 oz each) use 3 tablespoons of citric acid in 8 fluid ounces of water.
    Add ammonia to syrup. DXM converts from hydrobromide salt to freebase and precipitates out of water. Since it is now nonpolar it wants to go into a nonpolar solvent. Now you add a nonpolar solvent (lighter fluid) and shake hard. Free base goes into solution in solvent. Let solvent float to the top. Physically separate the layers. Now the DXM is in the nonpolar layer, mix that with the acid and shake well. The DXM converts back into the acid salt (since lemon juice has citric acid in it, we make DXM hydrocitrate). This is so beautiful because the DXM is practically pulled across the oil-water interface by the hydrogen ion gradient.
    Now you throw out the oil layer, and the DXM is now acid salt in the lemon juice. Boil it for a few minutes in the microwave, stir it good, so any volatile solvent that remains will evaporate.
    You are left with "Agent Lemon" or "DXemon Aid", a highly concentrated product, which is superior to cough syrup -- if you really wanted to, you could probably boil away the water -- with no danger, since the amount of solvent is almost nothing, and get a crystalline product that might be cut with anhydrous citric acid. I wouldn't suggest it, since it might irritate the stomach.

    How to make:

    1. Put cough syrup in 2 liter bottle.

    2. Pour in a lot of ammonia. Excess is not a serious problem. The ammonia volume should be about equal to the syrup volume.
    3. Shake.
    4. Pour into a tightly sealable vessel. A funnel is good to have.
    5. Add about a 1/2 inch thick layer of lighter fluid.
    6. Shake the hell out of the vessel for about five minutes.
    7. Pour the liquid back into 2 liter.
    8. Let the organic solvent layer separate, it wil float on top of the water.
    The way to separate the layers is with a separatory funnel, or the approximate version (a plastic bag). Pour the entire contents of the bottle into the sealable plastic bag, seal it, let the layers separate, clip off the bottom corner, and let the watery layer (on the bottom) drain out into the drain. Then let the organic layer drain into a jar.
    9. If you want to minimize the amount of water-ammonia-cough syrup inactive
    ingredients, add more water, let separate and separate again. If you want
    you can do this as many times as it takes to get the ammonia taste out.
    10. Now mix the solvent layer with the citric acid solution.
    11. Transfer to a jar (like a Snapple or Nestea jar).
    12. Really shake the hell out of it for 5 minutes.
    13. It takes a few minutes to separate. Wait.
    14. Or use a new plastic storage bag, and this time keep the water layer and discard the organic layer.
    15. Boil the juice for a few minutes, the theory is that if a little bit of the organic solvent is there, it will boil away.
    16. Drink the DXemon Aid. I have not deterimined the best method, I think you could mix it with something, or maybe drink it straight. It tastes really bitter (that's the DXM).

    Getting High on motion sickness pills:

    Yes, you can get high on motion sickness pills. They have Dimenhydrinate. This is a psychoactive drug if taken in really high doses. If you do it correct you will get really messed up on this. Have fun!

    What to do:
    1. Buy some 'Equate' motion sickness pills (any brand will do)
    2. Take 12-17 pills, which should be 600-850mg. I have heard of people taking the whole bottle.
    3. Wait about 1-2 hours before feeling the effects.

    Getting High off of Pscyhoactive Toads (DMT):

    ---------------------Easy way to extract DMMT out of Toads------------------------

    Yes, DMT! Dimethyltryptamine, which is just like LSD and 2 C-B.
    The feeling of doing DMT is as though one had been struck by LSD lightning. The ordinary world is almost instantaneously replaced, not only with a hallucination, but a hallucination whose alien character is its utter alienness. Nothing in this world can prepare one for the impressions that fill your mind when you enter the DMT sensorium.

    -----------------How to extract the DMT-----------------------

    You can aquire 5-MeO-DMT from special types of animals and plants, the easiest to get in from is in a species of toad. I will also tell you how to get it from a plant as well.

    Species of toad you need: Bufo alvarius (Sonoran Desert or Colorodo River Toad), and only this. Or if you can't find this toad you may use a gorgonian Paramuricea chamaeleon. You will have to figure out how to get it's venom yourself.
    Note: Also if you can't find any of these species, your best hope is to do this extraction from a tree toad. Most tree toads have a type of venom that is also pscyhoactive.
    Warning: I would not try the tree toad way, unless you are sure that it's venom is not a deadly poison!

    Where to get Bufo alvarrius toad (Sonoran Desert or Colorodo River Toad) vemon:

    Collect two to four Bufo alvarius toads, any other toad will not work. You can find these at a pet store, ask the clerk. If they don't have them ask if they can order you a couple.

    How to collect it's pscyhoactive (DMT) vemon:

    Fresh venom can easily be collected without harm to the toad. Use a flat glass plate or any other smooth, nonporous surface at least 12-inches square. Hold the toad in front of the plate, which is fixed in a vertical position. In this manner, the venom can be collected on the glass plate, free of dirt and liquid released when the toad is handled.
    When you are ready to begin, hold the toad firmly with one hand and, with the thumb and forefinger of your other hand, squeeze near the base of the gland until the venom squirts out of the pores and onto the glass plate. Use this method to systematically collect the venom from each of the toad's granular glands: those on the forearm, those on the tibia and femur of the hind leg, and, of course, the parotids on the neck. Each gland can be squeezed a second time for an additional yield of venom if you allow the toad a one-hour rest preiod. After this the glands are empty and require four to to six weeks for regeneration.
    The venom is viscous and milky-white in color when first squeezed from the glands. It begins to dry within minutes and acquires the color and texture of rubber cement. Scrape the venom from the glass plate, dry it thoroughly, and store it in an airtight container until you are ready to smoke it.

    Due to its bad taste you can mix it with a more fragrent smoking medium like tobacco, cloves, or marijuana.

    ----------------------Extracting DMT from MMantis Root Seeds----------------

    How to get DMT from the mantis root seeds:

    You go to a plant store and buy some Mantis Root seeds. When the plant is grown, you strip the roots of their bark and grind them up and make a tea. The chemical in it is DMT.

    ----------------------DMT Effects-----------------------

    -short duration
    -immersive experiences
    -intense open eye visuals and kaleidescopicc patterning
    -powerful "rushing" of sensation
    -radical perspective shifting
    -profound life-changing spiritual experiencces

    -change in perception of time
    -auditory hallucination (buzzing)
    -colorshifting (for example red green and ggold coloring to the whole world)

    -overly-intense experiences
    -hard on the lungs to smoke
    -slight stomach discomfort
    -difficulty integrating experiences
    -fast onset and intensity can lead to probllems if not prepared (dropped pipe, knocking things over, falling)

    When smoked, DMT effects are shortlived and intense and the smoke is harsh and plastic tasting. Because of the quick onset, it's important to try to breathe the smoke in deeply. If you wait too long for a second hit, the effects may have already begun...and once they have, it's unlikely you'll have the opportunity to take another hit.
    Many people find the most effective method for smoking DMT is to use a glass pipe and inhale deeply. Often, the DMT melts and some of it remains behind in the pipe. This can be a problem if you load a full dose at a later date and unknowingly have an additional 20 mg left in the pipe. It is recommended that you prewarm the pipe. In theory, this will prevent the vaporized DMT from depositing on the cold glass of the pipe. Another recommendation is to put a second screen on top of the DMT so the flame doesn't burn the DMT (resulting in loss of material).

    Making Hard Alcohol:

    Have you ever ran out of alcohol and needed more? Well, you can make your own alcohol at home! Just like in the 1920's....well, easier now! Just follow my very simple instructions and in no time you will be making your own ture to god hard alcohol. Have fun and get drunk off your ass!

    Note: The type of rubbing alcohol you need is getting harder to find. Though every supermarket should have it, they started to use isopropyl instead of ethanol which is a poison if you drink to much. Read the bottle before buying!


    -------Items needed to make grape wine (10%% alcohol content):

    1. Rubbing Alcohol that has ethanol or ether alcohol. It can't have isopropyl!
    2. Grape juice
    3. 5 tbs sugar
    4. Empty wine bottle

    How to make:
    1. Fill the empty wine bottle with 1/10 full of rubbing alcohol (ethanol).
    2. Fill the rest up (9/10) with sweet grape juice.
    3. Add the sugar (Add more to taste).
    3. Drink intil your drunk.

    This really makes wine. It may not be the fine wine you can buy for 300 dollars, but do you want to get drunk or what?

    Items needed to make hard alcohol (50% alcohol content):

    1. Rubbing Alcohol that has ethanol or ether alcohol. Now, go down to the local wal-mart or some place like that and ask where the rubbing alcohol is. When you get the the rubbing alcohol section look on the back of every bottle looking for one that has ethanol or ether alcohol.
    If the bottle has anything else besides ethanol don't buy it. Don't buy rubbing alcohol that has iso-propyl!!!
    You might already have the stuff at home look in the medicine cabinet.
    Remember.....ETHANOL OR ETHER ALCOHOL ONLY!!!!!!
    Note: Ethanol is not dangerous to use. In fact ethanol is what is used in beer and liquer.

    2. Distilled Water in a bottle (this is really cheap, but you can use tap water).

    3. Empty wine bottle (You can use a plastic kool-aid container it really does not matter as long as it can hold liquid)

    4. 1 tbs salt (This is for taste)

    5. 6 tbs honey (This is for taste and the sugar) (Sugar makes the alcohol faster acting!)

    6. You don't have to have step 4 or 5.

    How to make:

    1. Fill the wine bottle (or container) up 7/10th of the way with rubbing alcohol (ethanol).

    2. Fill the bottle with (2/10) water.

    3. Add salt and honey. (You don't have to have to add these...just makes the final product taste better)

    4. Mix and store

    5. You may now drink the liquid to get very Drunk!!!

    Due to it's bad taste...like every hard drink. Make cocktails with this stuff...pretend it's whiskey.

    Getting high on Poppie Seeds:

    Get about 300g of poppy seeds from your good old supermarket (really cheap) and crush them. Add the crushed seeds to the juice of about 3 lemons in a bowl and let them soak for about 10 mins. Then add some warm water so that they are covered by about a couple of cm and again leave them for about 10 mins. Next, boil the liquid for about half a hour untill it is pretty gooey. Down the hatch. After about an hour the 'trip' starts and goes on for about 3-4 hours. The high comes in waves. It isn't like an acid trip, more euphoric. Have Fun.

    Getting High off of Nutmeg:

    All you do is look in your pantry and look for a bottle of whole or ground nutmeg.
    Then take a couple whole nutmegs or a couple teaspoons of ground nutmeg orally.
    If you don't feel anything in an hour or so double what you took. You know it's working when you feel drunk and high.

    I didn't write this so I can't answer questions just figured it'd be worth archiving off neojoint
  2. Be careful with that shit. It's definitely one of the most powerful drugs. I've had DXM trips that were 10x as intense as any acid or mushroom trip.
  3. DXM ain't got shit on dramamine and to a lesser extent nugmeg
  4. i like dxm more than acid however for several reasons have discontinued my use...also od limit 2500 mg and beyond:)

    personally i use this dose....
    700mg to get supa trippy the first time
    1000mg after you develope a tolerance

    if you are home alone and would rather party with friends
    (my ma keeps my leesh short)
    then use this method (imagine mixing acid and ectacy together with dmt)

    1) get 2 2-liters of spite...
    2) 3 bottles of VICKS 44 DRY COUGH very important to get that brand...
    3) a copy of fear and loathing in los vegas....
    4) a funnel....

    unnecessary but weed never hurts

    its best in an empty house

    1. fill each bottle of sprite with one vicks, now each has 700mg of dxm

    2. save the 3rd bottle for later (dxm has 5 plateaus and to attain that level you need to nurse some more vicks later on)Note that you may not need this..

    3. put down blankets, pillows, cigarettes and ashtray , headphones, any thing that makes the world more comfortable. Lay this stuff out in front of the tv

    4. now fast a while then start drinking no need to rush

    5. drink until both sprite/vicks cocktails (which is called OC DRANK)are gone

    6. kill some time it dont matter what it is, maybe smoke some grass ...:smoking: wait until you feel somethin

    7. pop in fear and loathing and press play...:hello:

    Now this is party time let the vibrations take you away. Youll notice when your trippin full force that it feels like your doing what evers in the tv you feel as if the people are actually their its crazy wierd, i found this out 4 months ago on a bed with a tv.

    ps smoke cigs with it... The dopafine levels are already spiked so you feel great high from the nicotine.:D
  5. #6 MorbidAngel, Jun 29, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Jun 29, 2009
    Awomse guide thankx for posting, has alot alot of useful stuff on here.

    Im seriuosly considering getting a toad just for DMT extraxtion...and of course becuase having a toad would be awsome :D

    EDIT: oh wow above poster kinda necroed this thread haha, still though its pretty cool.

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