Opinion please

Discussion in 'First Time Marijuana Growers' started by BIG BLUE, Sep 23, 2018.

  1. I just did a little sample harvest. And man I'm waiting for the rest to turn a little more amber, but this was a bagseed, no idea what strain, but the whole process couldn't of gone better, today is the 14th day of my flush, growing in coco loco. (My question), I shouldnt have any problem just waiting for the amber/ cloudy trich ratio to get to my satisfaction, with just water, and is there anything tried and true tricks I can use at this point. I may have pulled the trigger a little early on the flush, and just overall hows the bud look guys?? First Grow. Right on, thanks for any feedback 20180922_202005.jpg 20180922_202939.jpg 20180922_220525.jpg 20180922_220533.jpg 20180922_220557.jpg

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  2. That’s pretty awesome for bag seed bud well done mate


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  3. Nice grow!
    Congrats my friend
     
  4. However, more Amber buds wont mean more potent buds, in spite, thc will only degrade. I suggest you look it up.
     
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  5. Kanari, you need to do a lot more research on this subject.!!

    the "high" you look for in cannabis is a direct effect from the cannabinoids in the trichomes on the buds,
    THC is one of many CBN's that give you the desired effects,
    very high THC with low levels of the other CBN's leads to undesirable side effects (nervousness, nausea, restless),
    on the other hand.... with low THC and high CBN the 'buzz' is mild,
    in general the most potent harvest is when there is a mix of cloudy and amber trichomes.!!
    the degradation of THC in the amber'ing stage is normal and makes way for the other cannabanoids to develop.!
     
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  6. You've defiantly pulled the trigger a little earley, even without looking at trichs you can see by the pistols on the bud. But you'll pick it up quick enough, especially if you grow the same way.

    I don't even start to flush Untill I see enough Amber and I'm In soil. The more Amber the more "couch lock" high. Im a heavy smoker so I like a strong as high as i can get.

    I only grow soil but I'm pretty sure coco don't need no where near that long of a flush. With a flushing agent too it can be done in a few days.

    You dont Want to stop feeding to earley, give em as much as they can take, get as much from your harvest as possible.

    Buds do look nice though, good job.
     
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  7. I am before harvest, so I did my research.
    Thc will degrade over time, thus the amber look. In those trichs amber trichs, no more CBN will be found, than in a cloudy one. Cbn levels depends on the strain not on the trich stage. Actually, amber trichs contain less thc than a couldy one. Furthermore thats why its more body high, as the thc ratio is lessen, as its starts do downgrade.

    Being more specific:

    CBD is what gives a true body stone, a true couch-lock stone. Since CBD has almost been totally bred out of modern strains smokers who like couch-lock have had to resort to giving up THC, throwing away THC, intentionally allowing the level of THC to drop as it oxidizes and become CBN so they can get a fake body stone from it, a false couch-lock stone from it. That is what amber trichomes actually mean. Amber is a sign of oxidized THC, THC that has been lost and transformed into a substance that is only mildly psychoactive.

    Most couch-lock lovers refuse to accept and believe that fact, but nonetheless, it is a fact.



    CANNABIDIOL (CBD)

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    Cannabidiol is nonpsychoactive and was initially thought to have no effect on the psycho activity of THC. Recent evidence however show that smokers of cannabis are less likely to experience schizophrenia-like symptoms if there is a higher CBD to THC ratio. Experiments show that participants experienced less intense psychotic effects when intravenous THC was co-administered with CBD. It has been hypothesized that CBD acts as an allosteric antagonist at the CB1 receptor and thus alters the psychoactive effects of THC, resulting in a more easily manageable high.

    CBD is generally considered to have more medicinal properties than THC. It appears to relieve convulsion, inflammation (and thereby also migraines), anxiety and nausea. That is why strains with a high concentration of CBD is suitable for medicinal use.

    Although CBD has its own particular medicinal value it is not more important than THC when it comes to treating various afflictions. It is the interaction between the two that gives rise to the effect that sometimes alleviates the symptoms of various medical conditions.

    CBD has a greater affinity for the CB2 receptor than for the CB1 receptor, meaning that its effect is mostly in the body and not so much in the head. CBD shares a precursor with THC and is the main cannabinoid in low-THC cannabis strains like hemp.

    Landrace strains, usually of indica heritage, contain higher concentrations of CBD than recreational drug strains, which are usually bred towards a higher concentration of THC. This is the reason why strains containing high ratios of CBD can be difficult to find.



    TETRAHYDROCANNABINOL (THC)

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    Tetrahydrocannabinol, also known as delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ9-THC), is the primary psychoactive component found in the cannabis plant. It was first isolated by Raphael Mechoulam, Yechiel Gaoni, and Habib Edery from the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel, in 1964.

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    This is the main compound that gives rise to the high that is tightly linked with the cannabis plant. It affects several areas of the brain simultaneously and can therefore give rise to an assortment of experiences, ranging from altered perception of time and the self, to feelings of euphoria and relaxation all through the body.


    Medically, it appears to be analgetic, meaning that it is capable of alleviating even severe pain. It is also known to be neuroprotective, which rules out the possibility of brain damage, which was initially proposed to follow from heavy use of the plant. It has approximately equal affinity for the CB1 and CB2 receptors. By binding to CB1 receptors (the ones in brain) it produces the high that we are so familiar with. That is why the effects of THC is more cerebral, than the effect of CBD, which seems to have a greater affinity for the CB2 receptor.

    CANNABINOL (CBN)

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    Cannabinol is the primary degradation product of THC and increases in concentration with plant age. The concentration of this product in the bud is heavily dependent on the time of harvest. Harvesting the bud at a late stage also means that the concentration of CBN in relation to THC will be higher when compared to the peak of THC production.

    CBN content increases as THC degrades. It is only mildly psychoactive and can cause "fuzzy head", drowsiness, disorientation and sleepiness in the smoker, properties that can be considered unpleasant in nature compared to the clear high of the THC. Its affinity to the CB2 receptors is higher than for the CB1 receptor, meaning that it mostly affects the body.

    THC BIOSYNTHESIS

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    This is a post that I found.

    Touché
     
  8. I don't know why you've copied and pasted so much random info to try an prove your point.
    This site is for sharing knowledge, learning and becoming better in what we do. There's so many people here like you that have no idea what there talking about. But unlike you they don't try so hard to make dumb others down.

    I stopped reading your noncence when I got here "CBD is what gives a true body stone, a true couch-lock stone"

    LOL wtf are you talking about!!!! . You DONT get high from cbd!
     
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  9. As slowildguy says, you need to do a lot more research. What he says is correct without the need to fool by copying random links and charts.

    I wish mods would revoke posting rights for people like you!
     
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  10. Ok I read a little more.

    "CBD has almost been totally bred out of modern strains "

    You know the whole medical marijuana industry is cbd they extract from "modern strains"....
     
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  11. Damn dudes. No I know I'm looking at just about full cloudy with very few amber. Looking for about 20-30% amber trichs. The buds are still fattening up though daily. So shes not ready. Todays 69 days on 12-12. Probably go 8 weeks. Couldn't believe the quality and quantity of this. No more bag seeds for me though

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  12. apologies Blue,
    i tried to correct ole Kanari to keep others from following bad suggestions,
    did NOT realize it would be the start of the thread spam, very sorry Sir.!

    Sounds and looks like you have this going your way though.!!!!!
    keep up the good work Blue.!!
     
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  13. Tnx for you kindness, i hope you are having a great day
     
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  14. A couple big sticky nugs, I cut down yesterday, probably going to chop the rest of her tom. 20180926_205442.jpg 20180926_205439.jpg 20180926_202909.jpg 20180926_205435.jpg

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  15. I mean this girl is HUGE. This is what's left of her. I held the lighter behind so you can see just how big these are. theres about 15 more colas all the same size as the small one. Then the two main colas that are bigger than water bottles. ! 20180927_230219.jpg 20180927_230219.jpg 20180927_230247.jpg 20180927_230254.jpg 20180927_230232.jpg 20180927_230007.jpg

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  16. Nice looking buds. Glad I kept ready and found them

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  17. Oh yeah take it easy on my burnt leaves. I KNOW, got a little carried away at some point. FIRST GROW

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  18. Thanks bud, not entirely sure what you mean "glad you kept ready and found them", but I'm happy with them.

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