I've only read the first post and I am gonna go out on a limb here and just say that I'm pretty sure the thread starter is really pro-obama and demonstrating the impact his ideas might have. But I'm also pretty faded so,
Yes, but lets not talk about the fact you have to pay (large sums of money) for any kind of adequate schooling right after high school
srsly ffs. No one wants to hear you n00bs argue like this is the third fucking grade, and no one cares that your family has a edumacation and isnt making money. Get over yourselves. anyways, i live in canada, and i like my beer.
It would be nice if I could afford for my father to continue living... ...but no, you hold onto your precious pennies like a total douche bag. If you're in that tax bracket it's not like you can't afford it- $250,000/year. Yea, wouldn't want you to not be able to buy a second flat screen for yourself. The rest of us only need to survive- who are we to ask you to pay higher taxes (after a huge tax break on the upper class). It must be nice to be in that tax bracket- all I know is some of us literally have only condiments in our refrigerators right now. Trust me. Obama ain't a socialist- you're just brainwashed or selfish. Either way it's pretty retarded.
Third graders argue about politics? I wish our system was more like Canada's, Britain's, hell, even France's.
No, they argue like stupid third graders. i was just targeting the people who brought unwanted/unneeded hostility to this thread, not the people who legimatly discuss.
Hell i'll do the shit work if it means I can have a full fridge (munchies) a place to live and enough time to spend with my family and friends. Anything more is just plain greed. Although I do admit education and technological progression of humanity should be our main concern as it will lead to more contributions back to society than media, unnecessary products that end up as garbage, and institutionalized religion IMO. (Self Spiritualism)
there are tens of thousands of different scholarship programs in the us.(not to mention his parents already went to college so they clearly had money) anyone with a high school gpa of over 3.6 could get a full ride to a lot of descent colleges, not to mention student loans. no one said it was easy, but it's an option.
How is he to pull America out of economic collapse while continuing to use and build upon Bush's foundation? And before you start accusing me of being a racist and an Obama hater, I did not support George Bush, nor do I support Obama. I am not American Either, but it allows me to have a unique perspective; an objective one. You guys need to stop fighting with each other and realize that some very rich people and running off to the bank with your money. Obama isn't your friend. They are the ones screwing you viciously, not your neighbors and peers. Time to walk away from the 'Right-Left' Paradigm.
WOW. Got kinda crazy here, let me set a few things straight. 1) my not so rich dad died when i was 10 my mom supported me and my sis of his socil security 2) I stared in construction on the end of a shovel making $6.50 in 1990 now i createthree jobs. if you have a job and suport your fam you should be proud. but dont complain about the life you chose and dont expect people like me to get you out of your bad decisions. Iworked at the same place for 15 years before i started my own company, saved my money, i still dont own a big screan tv, i paid 85,000 for a old fixeruper house and didnt buy my first new vehicle till this year and I am hispanic. if your not happy with your life work harder make a plan follow it and you can be a maker instead of a taker. I do share what i work for i give quite alot to charity but when someone in washingtion says i make too much and i need to share the welth that is just wrong. the amount of taxes i pay is more than some of you make already. if i could get some tax relief i would likely hire another emploee. cant afford one now. i just sent a check to pres oblowme for 28,000 dollars. so why am i the bad guy here, when my taxes go up ill likely lay off one of my guys, gee thats good news its only one job but people like me account for the majority of jobs in this great country.
As nice as that would be, it won't happen. The culture wars will live on far passed Obama. It's because we have such a large and diverse country. Unless there is some huge event our country will not come together.
All I know is this place is going to hell in a hand basket right quick and I'm loading up on guns, ammo, food and water... I've already got a pretty good arsenal, just need more ammo, food and water... I'm proud to say a country boy can survive. Right now there's talk of a civil uprising and revolution on ar15.com but you know the shit's bad when there's the same talk on babycenter.com forums. Barack and the elitist left's main goal is to take your weapons so they can instill complete control with a huge federal government and the beginning of the new world order. Possibly axing how much we drive, taking over all the banks?? Are you F'ing kidding me, whatever happened to capitalism?? This is straight up Socialism disguised as change.. Change WE DON'T NEED. Not to mention a bill called HR 45 that will require you to buy a federal firearms license in order to buy guns, yes you will have to pay for your 2nd Amendment right. I've seen this before, the Marijuana tax stamp act, you have to have one, but the gov't won't issue any, it's a scam... Join the NRA, join the local militia, join the American Resistance Movement, don't let this corrupt smooth talking bastard instill "change" and take away our freedom and what America stands for!!!!! Any man who woulde give up an essential liberty for temporary safety deserves neither... Benjamin Franklin
Stupid third graders? Maybe just third graders, I don't know about stupid. A stupid third grader is pretty bad, well I guess it depends on how stupid but still.
Too bad you don't know dick about what you're talking about, it was the Clinton Administration that caused the housing crisis and credit crunch which has led our economy to where it is now. Time for your little history and economics lesson since I'm a financial advisor and you apparently are ignorant to the facts. During the Clinton Administration, Fannie Mae, a government controlled entity as well as Countrywide were pressured and forced into giving out NINJA Loans, I'm sure you don't know what that is so I'll break it down for you, No Income, No Job mortgage loan is where NINJA comes from, the Clinton Administration changed the law saying you didn't have to prove your income or prove employment or make a down payment to get a mortgage, so idiots go and get a mortgage for a $250,000 house when they only make $40,000. Well Countrywide and other mortgage companies go out and sell these things like crazy to people with bad credit and no money, then they turn around and sell them as "Mortgage backed securities" Basically I come to you and say hey I have $100 million in Mortgage backed securities to be payed over the next 30 years, I'll sell it to you for 75 million. Well Fannie Mae was directed by Clinton to buy up these high risk mortgage backed securities from which the money coming in from those people that pay their mortgage is then re-lended out and you get that money back plus more interest. Well Fannie Mae bought up all this high risk debt meaning it's unlikely to get repaid. At first, there's only some that don't pay their mortage and they're bringing in enough money for it to be worthwhile, but as time goes on, more and more people aren't able to pay their mortgage b/c they bought a house too expensive for their income. Well as more and more people weren't able to pay their mortgage, less and less of these mortgage backed securities are getting paid back, Fannie Mae and other big financial institutions aren't getting the money that's supposed to be paid to them so when money gets tight, interest rates go up, supply and demand. Well people don't pay their mortgages and so the banks and mortgage companies foreclose on them and take posession of the house but now interest rates are high b/c the mortgage companies and banks assets are tied up in houses, not cash, so they don't have the money to lend out to people to buy those houses they got from foreclosure, boom you got your credit crunch. Thanks to the Clinton's retarded ass liberal policies, we got where we are now... So shut your mouth b/c you're making yourself look ignorant spouting off on things you don't know dick about. It's just ironic that he wants to "spread the wealth" and raise taxes on the weatlhy but everyone he tries to appoint to his cabinet don't pay their taxes, then he preaches fiscal responsibility and transparency yet he won't release his grades from college, his thesis papers, his birth certificate and numerous other things he's hiding... http://www.youtube.com/v/DL08s5uH8as&hl=en&fs=1
It may be funny, but it's true, why do you think guns are flying off the shelves at gunshows, gunshops and online, you can't find any of the most popular ammo at Wal-Mart or Meijer anymore, ammo reloading presses and supplies can't be found and people are working towards the ability of self preservation. People are buying livestock, farm equipment, digging wells, buying water purifiers, generators and all kinds of survival/self preservation type supplies at much hgher trends. I'm not shitting you, it's going on in a lot of places b/c people are realizing the shit could hit the fan real soon and they're not banking on the government for anything. You may think I'm crazy, but I'd rather be crazy and prepared than complacement and fucked if it does happen... Guys I know from Texas said everyone's stockpiling firewood, food and water while liberals in Cali are more concerned about Rihanna and Chris Brown. Try to order a wood burning stove and see how long of a backorder it is?? Why are wood burning stoves on back order?? hmmmmm Maybe b/c millions no longer trust this government and are preparing for the worst, I hope it don't come but I'll be prepared if it does... http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=835750