noob building a gaming pc. is this setup any good?

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  1. #1 Spyder, Sep 14, 2013
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    Alright, so I'm moving into my new place next week and I've decided to get a legit computer. Mine is garbage lol
     
    I'm looking to spend $600 or so, maybe up to $700 but it's stretching it. Been looking around online, trying to figure out to build one and where to get the goods, but I'm not sure what parts are better/newer than others..
     
    I'd like a laptop so I can chill on the couch with the roomies instead of at a desk, but I know they're more expensive and probably run hotter.
     
    Main goal is to have something that'll run games like bf3 and skyrim at good settings.
     
    So if you guys could lemme know what to be looking for when building a gaming pc, or where to find good deals on pre-build stuff (watched some youtube videos on it, but still looks like a pain to put it all together).
     
    Any help would be much appreciated. I won't be able to give you rep, but I'll give you respect.
     
     
     
    edit: Been looking around. Pretty sure Acer is a shitty brand, but how's this look?
     
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D3F9HT4/ref=as_li_ss_il?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00D3F9HT4&linkCode=as2&tag=cwsgaminglaptopsunder500-20
     
     
    After spending the last few hours looking into stuff, I think I may have to build one. Found parts on newegg and a monitor off of Amazon, lemme know what you think
     
    Build
     
    Listed on my next post below
     
    Keyboard/Mouse
     
    http://www.amazon.com/E-3LUE-Keyboard-Bundles-interface-Koolertron/dp/B0074GU8Q4/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=LV3KIEZOQREF&coliid=I2F31NJOWJJ666
     
    Monitor
     
    http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-Official-Monitor-RL2455HM-24-Inch/dp/B007HSKSMI/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=LV3KIEZOQREF&coliid=I365TQT6K1AAIO
     
    Think I may go with this setup if everything looks good to you guys. Anything else I'd need to put it all together?

     
  2. A $700 laptop won't be able to play any games on decent settings.... Maybe the lowest if you're lucky.

    A $700 pc will play new games on medium, maybe some on high if you overclock the piss out of it.

    Sent from my Samsung GS4 SCH-I545

     
  3. As for the build you posted, the links don't work for me so just post the parts.

    Sent from my Samsung GS4 SCH-I545

     
  4. #5 Spyder, Sep 15, 2013
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    That looks legit man. Gonna look into that one since it comes with everything I'd need minus a monitor. Only thing is it's a bit outta my price range.
     
     
    @BP to the DP
    Here's those parts
     
    Motherboard:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128564
     
    Processor:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286
     
    RAM:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226249
     
    Hard Drive:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840
     
    Video Card:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161426
     
    Power supply:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171082
     
    Case:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075
     
    Also would need Windows 7 or 8.
     
  5. "This wish list is empty." No idea what your build is. Laptops just can't handle today's games. I thought mine had rad specs, but I can only play skyrim on lowest settings. And Acer is pretty damn good imo, I have one. Just stay away from windows 8, it's a nightmare.
     
  6. #7 Spyder, Sep 15, 2013
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    Not really considering a laptop anymore. Today's research proved that a desktop is better in almost every way.
     
  7. For some reason those links aren't working on the app. Can you list the names of the parts?

    Sent from my Samsung GS4 SCH-I545

     
  8. #9 b0nne, Sep 15, 2013
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    I'm on my phone at the moment I'll come back when I get home, but fyi just coz it says 'ooo I7 so good', it's actually more to do with the graphics card for gaming performanceSent from my HTC_PN071 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
     
  9. Yes, for a $700 rig you'd be better off getting an i5 and spending the extra dough on a better graphics card.

    Make sure you get a decent power supply, also.

    Sent from my Samsung GS4 SCH-I545

     
  10. #11 Spyder, Sep 16, 2013
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    @BP to the DP
     
    That's good to know. Still have MUCH to learn.
     
     
    And here's a list of those parts:
     
    Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-S2 AM3+ AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
     
    Processor: AMD FX-6300 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core Desktop Processor FD6300WMHKBOX
     
    RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 996769
     
    Hard Drive Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
     
    Video Card HIS H785F1G2M Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
     
    Power supply COOLER MASTER i500 RS500-ACAAB1-US 500W lntel ATX 12V V2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC (>0.9 typical) PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready
     
    Case: NZXT Source 210 S210-001 Black “Aluminum Brush / Plastic” ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
     
    Adds up to be about $640.
     
  11. That's actually not a bad build Spyder..but this is what i would get.
     
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
     
    CPU:  AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($118.99 @ Amazon) 
    Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
    Memory:  Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
    Storage:  Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($66.99 @ Amazon) 
    Video Card:  Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card  ($219.99 @ Newegg) 
    Case:  NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
    Power Supply:  Silverstone Strider Essential 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
    Total: $600.93
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-16 00:28 EDT-0400)
     
    Much better gaming performance from a 7950 over a 7850. If you want to overclock your cpu though consider getting a beefier power supply you can get the 600w version of that one for $10 more. That should leave you room to get windows if you don't want to go with other alternatives.
     
  12. I would do that build, maybe get the next step down cpu and get the next step up psu...

    I have that card in my eGPU setup, you're not taking advantage of it unless you overclock the hell out of it and you need more power for that. Currently running a 35% overclock, and that's not uncommon for these cards.

    Sent from my Samsung GS4 SCH-I545

     
  13. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd4300wmhkbox

    Take a look at this cpu, I don't know too much about AMD cpus but maybe somebody else can provide some input.

    For a budget gaming rig, a six core cpu is a waste of money. The bottleneck will be your graphics card, not your cpu.

    Sent from my Samsung GS4 SCH-I545

     
  14. ...I hate to triple post but I still can't edit posts on the app. Make sure you pick up 2 or 3 120mm fans, cheap $10 or less will do but airflow is definitely important.

    Sent from my Samsung GS4 SCH-I545

     
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    Actually nah the 4300 is a terrible deal it's worth spending the $10 more for the 6300 and it wouldn't bottleneck the 7950 that's a really powerful gpu. Technically it's not a real six core like intels hexacore cpus. He doesn't have to overclock his gpu but yeah i'd say it would be worth it to bite the bullet and just pay the $10 more to get the 600w and have more headroom for OCing if that's something he's interested in.
     
  16. #17 Spyder, Sep 17, 2013
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    You guys have helped so much; thanks!
     
    I'm probably gonna check out a local computer shop tomorrow to see if the prices are better, but regardless I'm that much closer to getting this thing going and I'm pumped! The next gen consoles aren't really grabbing my interest a lot so I may become a pc gamer sooner than later.
     
    edit: Just looked at my local pc store's website and their prices blow compared to newegg and amazon. Gonna try to learn a little more about computers first, then I'll probably order the parts that @[member="xSadrulesx"] listed.
     
  17. #18 xSadrulesx, Sep 17, 2013
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    Yeah generally it's more expensive to go buy it at the store than online. Newegg and amazon both qualify for free shipping too. Unless you live by a microcenter because you can get really good cpu/motherboard bundles with them. You can save around $40-$60. 
     
    If you want some build tutorials here are the two i watched
     
    This one the guys voice might be annoying to some but it's a really clear and simple tutorial and beginner friendly. It's a 3 part video series the links to the rest will be in info section.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPHCBWayEsY
     
    This one is a bit more advanced but still good as well. 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls
     
  18. That Acer that you linked in OP will play pretty much any game, although not on high. The i5 processer and GT 730m graphics card are good enough for any game that is out today.
     
  19. Ha I just spent the last couple hours watching those Newegg videos.
     
    Quick questions before I start ordering parts:
     
    Will this Coolermaster be alright? Comes in a 2-pack. I was reading the reviews on the Gigabyte motherboard and someone said it only supports 4 prong fans and 3 prong fans will run at full speed all the time..
     
     
    What are the chances it doesn't boot up after I get it put together? I plan on being really careful and discharging static frequently but idk what the success rate is like.
     
    How reliable will it be? Kinda worried it'll die early.
     
    Should I learn more about computers before trying to build it or just go with it? I don't feel like it's THAT complicated.. but still kinda complicated lol
     
    Oh and do I need any more parts like hardware and wires? Or do they all come with what I need?
     

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