None can own the mine

I put more value on the labor of the workers than I do the privilege of the owner.

 

 
During a recent tour of the hearst castle, the reverential guide kept saying how mr hearst built this, built that, etc.  I politely kept asking her about the workers who did the beautiful tile work, the gorgeous landscaping, the intricate mill work, etc.  He may have paid for the work and that's great, but he certainly did'nt do the work.  History and language often conflate the two.
 
This is not to take away from mr. hearst's actual talents.

 

Ownership of land for better or worse is up to the state generally. One of the foundations of the US is your right to own land. It can get pretty dumb though. There is a set of islands off the coast of North Carolina that a friend owns. I recall many years ago going down to the beach where he lived at. Today all of that beach front property is private all fenced in. They have some public beach areas but far and few areas left. The houses that are on it have fences that go about to the ocean and each property owner owns that sand all the way up to the ocean.
 
That same person was telling me when they went to build a porch had to get a "eco survey" because there was a chance the Venus Fly Trap on his property since its native to parts of North Carolina lol.
 
I own 10 acres out here in Texas and it most certainly is my land bought in accordance with the laws governing the sovereign state of Texas. It's not yours, his or hers. Someone's opinion on that does not matter. Got a issue consult the courts. That includes all of the Earth to X amount of feet to deal with mineral rights as well. Not that anyone would want to live where I bought it at. Its the sight of the future bunker to hold out when the masses who forever want more finally decide to stop being pansies and actually arm themselves to get what they want. I am thinking a flame thrower sprinkler system on the property will be a good deterrence or strapping propane tanks to various areas to shoot. Most of the militant left are pansies so once one propane tank ruptures since they can't even take harsh language I expect the sheep to flee like old women.

 

 
If that land falls into the framework of the laws created by that country, international treaties etc.
 
Interesting you talk about islands. China is busy building islands in the middle of the ocean...massive undertaking. All to extend there airspace and ownership of the oceans.
 
You basically own the ocean between say a island and your country should you have a island. The international zone starts outside of that island. China has been in dispute with everyone from the Philippines to Okinawa on what they view as theirs. There goal is to radically extend there territory to include most of the surrounding ocean to act as a buffer. To do this there building islands. We can sit here and debate it but it all falls under a framework of complex laws.
 
Here is  picture of just one there doing this all over. Funny we enlightened "Westerners" dither and blather while they do this. Wonder were the eco people are to stop this? Deaf as usual.
 

 

 

 
It actually does.
 
Capitalist property ends when the work is contracted out to others.

 

As long as you pay property taxes you are only renting the land from the government.

 

We already live in temporary houses that become someone else's when we leave.  Land isn't actually ours, we only buy the right to do with it as we please as long as we live, subject to laws and neighborhood covenants, conditions, and restrictions that are in place and we agree to when we buy it.  If the land was actually ours we could destroy it or take it to our grave when we die like we can do with our possessions but instead it's always passed on to someone else.  If oil is found under your property whoever owns the mineral rights gets the oil.
 

 
I don't understand your idea that in a communist society the gold belongs to the miners.  Who's going to buy the mining equipment?  The miners?  And after they buy it could another miner come and use it to mine gold for himself?  Wouldn't the persons buying the equipment become the de facto owners?

 

As much as he can afford to buy.  If he buys more than he can handle he'll lose it one way or another.

 

Hillary was talking about it 5 years ago. Since you asked...

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/09/world/asia/new-images-show-china-literally-gaining-ground-in-south-china-sea.html?_r=0&referrer=

 

 
It depends on what you mean by help.
 
We're also about to start conflating private and personal property, which is something communists, Marx etc, tried very hard to differentiate. I would say "your" yard is different from "a" mine.

 

 
I put numbers in front of your lines to try and make this easier:
 
1. How would I define "help" or the difference between personal and private property?
 
2. This seems like a matter of scope, i.e., a farm is obviously bigger than a garden, except they serve the same purpose, cultivation of food, agriculture. A mine is a larger hole, except they are both areas where you extract resources, i.e. gold.
 
3. This is interesting. I would rather private property be called "economic property", since the difference of opinion on what legitimate property boils down to (the capitalist vs. socialist opinions), is economical. Off the top of my head I would probably say yes, I think once you start having property as it pertains to a market (the difference between a garden and a farm, and market being in the economic sense), you start edging away from personal and more towards private (economic) property.
 
4. I would probably say no.

 

I like all the questions and what is implied to the next.

It's like asking why all the time and what for.

I think the less people own or claim to own and the more that is shared amongst others only enhances feelings toward each other.

I always wondered how many homeless would fit in all the churches and buildings known as private. Nahh, probably all of them.

 

Ideally the entire earth equally belongs to all life, we should learn to share.

 

Give the homeless homes and they'll need housekeepers.  Who's going to clean up the churches and buildings?  And do the upkeep?  The homeless won't do it because they have shopping carts to push.  I admit I'm ignorant about the homeless so I may be wrong here.