an idea crossed my mind, hopefully somebody can straighten me out. if a person has excessive fat deposits, would it be safe to not consume (theoretically, ideally) zero calories on a daily basis as long as they took in the proper essential nutrients otherwise? obviously in the real world some would be consumed to meet goal, but hypothetically. if there something unsafe about relying solely on stored fat for energy?
If your hearts set on starving yourself check out the 5:2 diet. You eat normally for 5 days, fast the other 2 (non consecutive) days. Works under the thinking you should consider calories as a weekly thing rather than daily.
no doubt, but my question is more "is it still starvation if you take essential nutrients and vitamin intake but rely solely on stored fat for energy?" i know, but im too high and lazy to go register on a bodybuilding forum or do more than a casual googling so i figured id give it a try here.
I lost my appetite for lil over a week once. Once it started, I was curious how long I'd go til my stomach wanted fed and lasted a bit. All I had was fluids, water and Mountain Dew. Surprisingly, I wasn't bogged down or tired like I normally am.. I exercised, worked, got high, just didn't feel the need to eat. While I wouldn't recommend it, I had no problems.. and I'd say I am average, below average in terms of body fat. There was minimal change in my weight though, and it's not like my body was telling me to eat. It'd probably be a different story otherwise.
Look up the kyat tree. People will fill their tummies with the kyat and go on spiritual journeys through long hot deserts with nothing but a few canteens. it would be enough to hold them over for about a week. Crazy stuff "Some of my finest hours have been spent on my back veranda, smoking hemp and observing as far as my eye can see." - Thomas Jefferson
your body will start breaking down fat cells (presuming you are not eating much of anything or not moving much) during ketosis. that's what most low-carb diets are based on. however, if you supply your body with required nutrients as you say, there's really no reason for your body to ever enter ketosis... it will use available nutrients and break them down to use as energy. you could try this too http://www.odditycentral.com/foods/man-replaces-solid-food-with-nutritious-drink-called-soylent.html
its just a step above water fasting which has been proven to be beneficial (assuming you dont go crazy and try to do it for like a month+) So in theory, I dont see why not.
cool. pretty awesome actually. i don't know about going through a hot desert, but you can definitely live without food for more than a week... there are records (lots of them) of 21+ day fasts.
My understanding is that this would not be safe. When calotie deprived your body doesn't just burn fat. It shuts off systems and eats its own muscles Don't eat less, eat right Sent from my LG-E739 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
thanks, i think the answer lays somewhere between these two responses. ill have to look more into it. i have no intentions of ever doing this myself btw. have no need or desire to go on a diet. just curious.
I would like to slap anyone who willingly deprives themselves of food. It's like "hahaha codswallop, i'm not going to eat. Watch me not eat, just because I don't want to." Nigga i'm starving.
No. Calories come from the macro nutrients like protein. Without protein your body will be starved for amino acids and break down muscle. Hormone production will go into the tank also. There have been great results from intermittent fasting, check it out. It's a much healthier way to implement the beneficial concepts you may be thinking of. Or as another poster suggested eat normal for a week then fast for a few days. IMO you can come up with the ideal diet by mixing concepts from the Paleo diet, intermittent fasting (eat during 8 hour window then fast until tomorrow), Mediterranean diet. The body does seem evolutionarily adapted to store food and then snack or fast until the next meal; thinking in terms of hunter gatherer. While we can only store about 650 grams of glycogen (from carbs) in the body, we can store around 100,000 grams of fat for about one million calories. Eat a bit of quality meat and healthy fats, lots of RAW fresh fruits and vegetables, nuts in moderation, lots of fresh water, Coldwater fish and if you mixed in some fasting you'd get most all minerals and nutrients needed, eat along your designs and probably see 100 years. But don't starve yourself. Even switching off between feast: fast days would be better.
Depending on how much you weigh and how bad you want to lose weight it's possible to eat enough to just barely stay out of starvation mode. BUT it's supposed to be for people who weigh like 600 pounds, also the "diet" is actually a medical diet not just for people who want to lose a few pounds, and it's supposed to be done as an inpatient (in the hospital). I would imagine it's not very safe, it's not really "healthy", but if you're obese and NEED to lose weight for your own well being then I can send a link. A friend did it and lost an average of 40 pounds a month. He's showed me the study, basically you consume a total of 500 calories a day, and drink something like 2 gallons of water a day. Nothing else to drink. The 500 calories are also very strict and can only consist of certain things so you will have only enough nutrients and stuff to survive. There are no "cheat days" like some diets. It's very strict, you're supposed to be monitored by a doctor. So to answer your question NO you can't just not eat, you can however eat the bare minimum if you are precise with the amount and type of nutrients,minerals, etc you're bringing in (which you probably won't be, thats why it could be dangerous, like I said a specialist is usually the one that makes your meal plan) and eating only enough to survive. Then I believe the water is to give the illusion that you're full, by keeping a stomach full of water at all times your stomach feels full, then the 500 calories is what actually prevents you from starving.
Theoretically.......you would starve and die. Your body runs like any machine, so having it properly serviced, and filled with the correct amounts of fluids is pretty important. That represents the intake of all your vitamins and nutrients. Now, that machine can't do dick without fuel though. It will sputter and die. That is calories. Your body requires a certain number of calories proportional to your size and metabolism. Cutting back on these isn't a good way to lose weight or stay in shape. Increasing your metabolism while consuming a normal amount of calories is the way to do that. They call it excersize. It isn't just a good suggestion, it's completely necessary for a healthy body. Humans, much like any form of machine, weren't meant to sit around and not do dick. Sent from my HTC One mini using Grasscity Forum mobile app
Starvation is exactly what you should NOT do. The first thing that your body does when you enter starvation is freak out and try to maintain blood sugar levels (glucose). Your brain relies entirely on glucose for energy. Fat CANNOT be converted into glucose. The place your body can get glucose precursors is amino acids (your proteins). With these two ideas in hand, your body will change it's normal routes of metabolism. Your muscles and other organs will stop using glucose to save the brain. These organs will only then begin to use fatty acids as an energy source as they simulteaneously sacrifice their proteins at greater rates. If this prolongs to long then your body will deplete your initial short term proteins and your brain begins to use its only other energy source, ketone bodies, which are a poor subsitute. This will preceed the final phase where your body will begin canabilizing proteins until your organs begin to fail due to lack of functional proteins. Citation: Biochemistry 6th edition, Berg, Tymoczko, and Stryer. Also with out fat in your diet, you will be unable to absorb many of those nutrients (the fat soluble (lipid soluble, like THC) vitamins and other essential fatty acids) so the idea of eating only nutrients is a moot point. And you could die, seriously. If you want to burn fat, my understanding is that going for a run first thing in the mornging is the way to go.
Purple in the morning, blue in the afternoon, orange in the evening, and green at night... Fucked up but real movie. But to answer your question, no. If ones goal is to lose weight its definitely all about diet and exercise. Dont starve yourself, but just cut out little things like fastfood and soda.