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Discussion in 'Religion, Beliefs and Spirituality' started by esseff, Dec 20, 2012.

  1. Ok. I'll take your advice to do a little better.

    I have just described two groups of people. Those who desire increased harmony, and those who, without realizing it, create division.

    I have also said that the type of person you are becomes evident because you will either manefest "harmony" or "division" in your life.

    Your response helps me illustrate an example of how "division" can manifest in reality.
     
  2. lol id like to hear how you believe my response is an example of how "division" can manifest in reality... you responded to what i said defensively and i called you out
     
  3. We left off with a couple questions:

    Why would prisoners DESIRE their prison - over freedom?
    How could increasing suffering be SO alluring - locks aren't even needed?

    Let's see if we can move toward some answers in this post.

    I think the best place to start is to take a closer look at the prison itself. What is it exactly? How does it work?

    If go back to an earlier post, I alluded to the fact that the King of Mercy had to understand how to protect itself from a lie. So if we consider that the wisdom of this King of Mercy represents Perfect Consciousness - we see that the King had to CREATE a lie in the first place. He did this through the creation of the Prince/Adam and the Princess/Eve. This is a way of saying he split his PC into PC-Adam/Truth Establisher and PC-Eve/Truth Creator. Yet, he was still a single PC above them. Can you see three entities?

    Now, creating a lie is no small thing - because it's quite impossible for a lie to even exist in Perfect Consciousness (PC). Yet, this is exactly what PC did. We saw in another post that PC-Eve created the lie when she replaced one truth with another (her own, separate from PC, something that doesn't exist) - transforming the original truth she replaced into "death". So you see PC had to create death in order to defeat it. Now remember, we have learned that death results from a dead truth, which is a LIE.

    So, we are now under the rule of a consciousness that has access to "lies". We will see that a lie is the most powerful prison ever created. For when a lie is believed to be truth - the lie always prevails. But under the rule of WHAT consciousness?

    I previously wrote about the "mass consciousness of mankind". This is the "warden" and we need to understand it a bit more. The conciousness of any individual person is always a subset of the "mass consciousness". This may appear obvious - but what may be more obscure is the fact that "consciousness" is exactly that, "conscious". So the mass consciousness created by the individual consciousness of man - is greater than individual man, and therefore controlling all of us. Well, trying to control us anyway.

    This mass consciousness - which is the sum total of all of man's wisdom - has no truth. This is because it continually creates lies. Everything it tries fails. The "mass consciousness" grows more and more corrupt and divided as it processess more and more "mass experience" incorrectly. Think of it this way, the wisdom by which a man lives becomes increasingly incorrect.

    Yet, mankind doesn't understand any of this. Man believes his mind is his own - and that his consciousness is not connected to others. Can you see the corruption this kind of blindness causes? Every man, who is a part of the "mass consciousness" assembles wisdom about what is right and wrong based on how he uses his senses to fulfill his desires. Everyone is adding their OWN version of light/dark, right/wrong, good/evil to the "mass consciousness". Now, imagine "mass consciousness", which is a greater consciousness than our own, trying to decide what is good? Or what is light? Or what is right?

    This is another way of saying that man does not understand the consequences of his actions and words on the lives of others. He is a continual destroyer of harmony - without every recognizing it. This is the life of every man living under the rule of "the mass consciousness of mankind". Everyone seeks to destroy - thus all is continually destroyed. Mass consciousness is created through division - so separation and hate increase.

    Because there is no truth in man's wisdom - then man can never understand his connection to PC (which is truth). So, this is the "eternal divide" that PC had to remove - in order to save creation. This is the GREAT UNDERSTANDING. It's a simple solution with a very complicated construction process.

    Much more later. Growing peace as you make peace.
     
  4. #104 Standish, Jan 14, 2013
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    It's hard to manifest harmony.


    Well, let me put it this way: it's hard to lessen the conditional nature of its manifestation freely.
     
  5. #105 thoughtware, Jan 14, 2013
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    Ok, let me see if I can address the questions I asked at the beginning of my last post; namely, why does man not seek for something better than a progressively divided reality?

    To see the answer for yourself, step inside any casino. The same "lie" that keeps people joyously throwing money away at the blackjack table - holds people within the control of "mass consciousness". This lie is called "EXPECTATION or HOPE".

    Since mass consciousness (MC) has no truth in it, all it can use to allure are LIES. And remember, a lie does NOT actually exist. The most powerful lie is the creation of a beautiful expectation (hope) in the mind of a man. The MC never has to actually deliver this "hope" - it simply has to create the hope in man's mind. And, much to our surprise, this is all it takes to keep us "at the table".

    Casino's understand the power of creating "expectation" or "hope". All they need to do is take from the masses and give a portion of the "take" to a single person. This one person creates the "hope" of "gain" for everyone else. Even though the casino is constantly taking money in and everyone knows that it is IMPOSSIBLE to win - people continue to play based on the "expectation" of winning.

    Religion uses the same lie. It is the "expectation" of a better life that keeps people funneling their money into the pulpits. Even though the churches are clear that you don't actually realize this "expectation" until AFTER you die (?) - people continue to sit at the table every Sunday morning.

    We see that "expectation" (again, similar to "hope") is used by MC to drive mankind further and further into separation. If MC can present a few people as having seemingly "made it" - then we believe in the expectation that we can make it too if we simply do what THEY did. Do MORE of what they did and we can EXPECT more! When we fail, or suffer, we continue to persist in the expectation of a better result in the future.

    Children are taught to SACRIFICE in the present so they can be happy in the future. To more clearly see the lie in this statement, translate it like this: We teach our children that the only way to happiness is through misery. Yet this promise of expectation is so compelling and so ingrained in MC, no one considers the irony.

    Let's look at it another way. Imagine ten people out in the desert - all trying to decide the best way to go. One looks this way and that and determines heading toward the distant mountains is best, because he expects water and shelter there. Another suggests going the opposite way because he expects/believes a river is beyond the horizon. Still another is certain that a village is their best bet, and they should all head in a different direction entirely. The path taken is always based on an EXPECTATION of future events.

    When one depends on their their senses - they will always create an EXPECTATION. This expectation guides one's actions, words and thoughts. And since expectations are lies and do not actually exist - MC has authority to use "expectations" to control mankind. And it most certainly does exactly that.

    Expectation is a powerful lie that blinds people to the state of their current reality. If your present experience "sucks" - it's ok because "tomorrow will be a better day!". Expectation is bondage.

    Yet, MC also has a big stick at its disposal. To make expectation even more compelling -MC often combines it with another lie called "fear".

    By implanting "fearful expectations" in the mind - man will toil even harder to gather wisdom by his senses to ESCAPE that fear. Remember, fear is simply an expectation with harmful consequences. And like all expectations, it does NOT exist (a lie) - yet is a very powerful control.

    These two lies of EXPECTATION and FEAR keep people bound within MC. Since their senses continually reaffirm that both the expectation and the fear are quite POSSIBLE, the mind acts on them as if they were REAL. We seek to attain or move away from an UNREAL future by producing REAL words and actions in our present.

    Thus man is continually led by wisdom founded in something that does NOT even exist. And as we can see - this creates a progressively distructive reality as all men wander around in the desert.

    So, with this, let me begin to bridge the "infinite chasm" - that we might understand how we might be directed in wisdom founded in Truth. If we have learned that LIES do not exist, could it be possible to base your words and actions on something that actually DOES exist? Wouldn't this be wisdom founded on truth?

    Yet, how can man receive truth if Mass Consciousness has no truth - especially when you consider that man's consciousness is a sub-set of mass consciousness? How can the "part" ever contain something not found in the "whole"?

    And what would a life directed by Truth even look like?

    The answer can be hinted at by revisting our story of the men lost in the desert. If one of the men understood that a village was north of them, a single man with a compass could rescue the other ten. A compass does not direct based on the physical senses of the men. A compass directs by something OUTSIDE of all men - thus is accurate for ALL men at ALL times.

    Therefore, the right direction to take at any given time must not be decerned by evey man's physical senses. In order for TRUTH to be followed, man must possess a COMPASS within himself - that is common for all men.

    Do we have such a compass?

    We do now. And it is hinted at in the following verse:

    Hebrews 11:1
    Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

    More later. Peace.
     
  6. Spot on man! I went to church yesterday and your Hebrews verse was the verse we focused on during our study of Faith.
     
  7. i would really love it if you read this thoughtware, these people feel as if they have been spoken to by God, i have found Gods message in here and im sure you will too

    Questions and Answers - near-death experience research conclusions

    on top of that im curious as to whether you have any pets. you have mentioned their pure nature with their unconditional love before.

    one thing i notice is when my dog chews on my shew i lift it up and sternly say no! after that i put the shoe away and show the dog some love. on the other hand my father will sit there scolding the dog pretty harshly, speaking so complicated it has no chance of understanding just confusing the dog more.

    the thing he doesnt understand (aside from the fact my dog doesnt speak english) is that the dog only had good intentions, in fact, if i liked chewing on shoes as much as my dog she would have delighted me to join her. she was only having fun and playing with no idea she was harming me. this is why i act in such a forgiving fashion (i think this you may recognize). while my father thinks the dog truly did something bad it is only the attachment to the shoe that is causing trouble not my dogs pent up teething energy.

    do you see what im getting at? if im getting anywhere that is?
     
  8. @Psilocybeen

    Regarding "near-death" experiences, I have never had a "desire" to look into these things. I always follow my desires. Over the years I have been increasingly drawn to things of "life" and away from all things covered in "death". This is why I gave up watching all news over a year ago - it was full of death. This is why I became a vegetarian - because I became unable to even consume death.

    Now, about pets.

    I agree with you 100%. Your dog will reflect back to you the love you give her - and if you tune in to her, you will understand that the love you have for her will be very close to the love the Father has for you. Pets, if you allow them, can be used mightily to teach you VERY deep things of the Spirit (PC).

    Always expect the best from your dog - and she will exceed your expectations in obedience, love and loyalty.
     
  9. #109 ytfghmjb, Jan 16, 2013
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    All praises to the most high
     
  10. #110 thoughtware, Jan 18, 2013
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    In the past several posts we've seen that the world is TRAPPED in the prison of "mass consciousness" because it seems like the "normal and right" way to go about life. If we want to be happy - "mass consciousness" reveals a variety of entirely contradicting ways to become happy. Instead of being concerned that truth has many answers, one happily selects any answer that seems most "normal and right" to him - and goes with it.

    In my last post I hinted that the only way to escape this prison was to discover a "compass" OUTSIDE of ourselves - that would ALWAYS direct us in the correct action, no matter which person needed the answer. This compass would direct every person accurately - creating a way for all people to make consistant decisions. A compass that would lead us ALL into harmony.

    But as is typically my style, we will come to this understanding slowly. Before we can talk about what sort of compass this might be - we must first understand a bit more about the power of our minds.

    My definition of "consciousness" is an ability to comprehend truth. The more "truth" an organism understands - the greater its consciousness.

    By this definition, if we are going to increase our consciousness, we would have to receive more truth. As we receive this truth, we come to understand it. This sounds obvious, but what I will say next may surprise you.

    We currently do not understand any truth. If we did, we wouldn't be in prison. We'd be free.

    We have seen that we are bound because man taps into "mass consciousness" to make its decisions. Yet, man himself supplies mass consciousness with it's understanding of right and wrong based on the individual ideas of man. Since each man forms his own understanding of what is right for him or wrong for him specifically - mass consciousness is continually fed conflicting information. Further, it's like the most deadly form of "inbreeding" in that man tries to increase its consciousness by continually downloading the "recycled" and "degraded" wisdom uploaded by others. Ugly, to say the least.

    The first step to breaking free of this cycle is to somehow TAP INTO Truth. To do this - you must first be able to SEE it. Always remember, you can NOT see a lie. Ever. Lies do not exist - therefore you can not see what does not exist. All you can see is Truth.

    You might argue that because you can presently SEE lots of things and we can only see Truth, I must have contradicted myself since I said we do not understand ANY truth. Not exactly. If you believe a lie is TRUTH - you can see it and experience a lie just like it was a truth. Although lies do not exist - they can "appear" to exist by deceiving you into thinking they are truth. But, its all fake. It is a "lie" after all! lol

    So to find REAL truth - you have to learn to see it. Without saying too much to fast, once you know how to see Truth - you will wonder how you ever missed it.

    To start you must focus on what is TRUE. This means you can NOT focus on something in the future. The future does not exist. Nor can you focus on something from the PAST, as this too does not exist. Therefore you KNOW that you will not ever understand Truth if you are not looking at your PRESENT. Only the PRESENT is true - thus Truth only exists in the present.

    This means that your PRESENT GROWS continually into something new. This is much different than thinking the Present moves toward a future and away from a past. There is ONLY the present. Only the present is true. If you understand your present - you will discover Truth there. When you act on the truth in your present - your present grows into something more and more beautiful. If you act on lies appearing as truth, your present grows more stressful.

    I've run out of time. More later. Growing peace to you.
     
  11. #111 thoughtware, Jan 20, 2013
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    We left off with the idea that our PRESENT is the only thing that truly exists. The rest is either a "memory" (an image of something that no longer exists) or an expectation (an image of something that has never existed). We see that mass consciousness (MC) teaches us that the "normal and right" way to think is to create unreal expectations of the future using our unreal memories/knowledge from the past.

    The only thought we give to our PRESENT is to RATIONALIZE it based on our memories of the past. For example we drink now because our dad was a drunk. Or, we don't drink now because our dad was a drunk. Either way, our present is always rationalized by our memories. Our present is also JUSTIFIED by our expectations. We suffer now so we won't have to in the future. We sacrifice now so we won't have to in the future.

    So our present is ignored as a reality - yet used to rationalize and justify things that do not exist.

    But here is a great mystery. Our reality is the only thing that is real - and where Truth can be found. Therefore, if you use a REAL present to justify/rationalize something UNREAL, the REALNESS of your present makes the unreal REAL to YOU. Thus you remain trapped in your past and slaves to your future. Both of which aren't even real. Lies create quite a prison.

    Maybe now you understand why I have always had the words "Our reality is unreal." above my Avatar. :cool:

    As I said earlier - a lie does not exist. It is unreal. You have now seen exactly how "mass conciousness" keeps everyone trapped - because it HIDES the real - and PRESENTS (makes visable in your "present") the UNREAL. Can you see that death occurs because man lives in a present that manefests the UNREAL? When people die they are removed from the PRESENT, thus they become UNREAL (a memory) because only the present is REAL. This is why death is a lie. (Read it like this: "death is unreal"). :smoking:

    So, now let's look more closely at our PRESENT. Since our PRESENT is the only thing that is REAL (what we experience in reality), what we DO in the present - changes the present. Either into something more real - or less real.

    A present becoming less real? How is that even possible? Think of things that are real as things that exist in HARMONY with each other - while things that are unreal as things that cause DIVISION with each other (kind of like a slow, steady explosion from the inside out). :eek:

    As you look at society over the years - notice how people have grown more divided and separated. Have you noticed kids don't play outside together anymore? (Parents are "fearful" of kidnappers, that they may be separated/divided from their child). Or that texting has replaced "talking" - while "phones" have replaced "visiting"? In fact, look at the growing division in all living things (destruction of animals, lands, recources, etc.). This is why cells in our own bodies even turn against each other. It is the same in all of nature. Division destroys eternally.

    Perfect Consciousness, (PC) is Truth. So it is that in our present we can begin seeking to tap into PC. Time spent doing this in the PRESENT, creates a "future present" built on TRUTH - which is real. And things that are real are LIVING. Remember, it is death that is the lie - and lies don't exist. This means instead of creating the "UNREAL" in your present - you create the REAL. And this is why your PRESENT becomes separated from DEATH. Instead, its only LIFE and HARMONY. This is the beginning of immortality - as our present EXPANDS. (which is to say, GROWS!)

    If you can understand any of this, you can see that PC is going to start changing this world through the PRESENT. Perfect Consciousness can't simply appear all at once - it would completely destroy all of creation. Imagine you were a corrupted operating system - and all of the sudden the PC rebooted you with a new operating system. You'd lose ALL your previous files (memories) and start again as entirely new creation in PC.

    You would still exist - and would now be perfect, but it would be as if the old you had never existed. Because you wouldn't even know there was an "old you". Without "truth" in this area - no answer exists, so neither does the "old you".

    So we see that if PC is going to replace MC - it can't happen all at once. Consciousness is who we are - and if our consciousness suddenly changes (even for the better!) - we become a different being altogether. Saying this another way, our old consciousness (sense of self) is destroyed - and replaced with something entirely different. A different consciousness is a different creation altogether.

    We see then a reality that is ascending. Why ascending? Because our reality is going to be based on a present that is more and more real. This is the result of our reality being founded on the greater Truths of PC. For some, as they tap into PC in their present, and focus more on the truths of PC in their present - their wisdom reflects more of PC. This changes the world around these people in amazing ways. This change will grow - until the entire world is covered - engulfed by Truth.

    People think there is going to be a great "fight" between the forces of "evil" and the forces of "good" - like some sort of galactic "Star Wars" movie. Evil is simply darkness. Evil is simply someone acting on a lie. Evil is nearly impossible to even see. This is why it is called DARKNESS. There is no battle - because the tiniest flicker of light DESTROYS darkness. Meaning, the very instant you understand the truth about something - the lie has absolutely NO power over you.

    If someone gave you a map of life and told you that all you had to do was follow it and you will live abundantly, you might follow it gladly. However, you may soon discover the map to be useless - because even though you follow it - it keeps leading you into poverty. However, if you learned the truth and discovered the map can only be followed when read in the reflection of a mirror - ALL THE MAP'S TRUTH would be unsealed for you. An abundant life is now yours. Why? Because you know the truth.

    The transition to PC is for those people who DESIRE to walk in PC in their present. Since Perfect Consciousness must be knit into a corrupt "individual consciousness", these people realize it is a very personal journey. They realize that only PC could perform the delicate surgery required to replace the lies in their consciousness with its TRUTHS. In fact, these people realize its not even possible for man to do this work on himself - or for another man to tell him what PC means to him.

    Only PC understands the specific lies that have infected your PRESENT - so that your PRESENT may be redeemed.

    EDIT: There are many people who do not understand the concept of ascension to something better, or misunderstand how it is happening. This will create "tribulation" as the lies they live in will manifest many pits. Some of them deadly.

    Much more later. Peace.
     
  12. Clearer and clearer. More and more real. The idea of interpreting, translating, even if it were still needed, would lesson the spirit in what was said. I am humbled by what I just read.
     
  13. I am terrified but my faith is strong. I oft may waver but I shall not fall.
     
  14. hey thoughtware.. good stuff

    a way i like to interpret it as is 'a thought cannot see beyond itself'
    the paradigm that we are living out can only host a set a number of experiences based on this past/future dilemma.. the possibilities are limited and restricted to the vibration of consciousness

    jump out of consensus reality or as you term it mass consciousness, and new possibilities are available.

    the individual makes it real
    his experiences and his creation
     
  15. #115 A AnoesisOrange, Jan 23, 2013
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    It's hard, having the desire but not the will. It is time I work on my faith. I've repressed it so long because I did not understand it. Thanks for posting this stuff.

    After revisiting some of the earlier posts in this thread, I had to revisit. This time, awareness of what I was doing there became more clear. It was obvious I wasn't ready because I couldn't get past trying to decide if I would get Taco Bell afterwards or not. It felt like I was living but lust must be accompanied by death, no?

    Well, here I am. That old familiar place, and yet it's no so familiar. Where it was once dark, it seems the porch light as been left on.
     
  16. #116 A AnoesisOrange, Jan 23, 2013
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    A couple of years ago, I stumbled upon love. I understood what it was in a sort of essence but that's not to say I really understood it at all. A year later, I made contact with consciousness. It was transmitted to me that we are of his light (this consciousness took the form of a star so I could grasp it) and that our light is everybody else's. I heard what was said, but I understood it mostly through a mirror. I was concerned with truth but could only see it in the dark, which is certainly no truth at all.

    I think I understand why you like esseff so much. On a different but related note, I think he has been priming me for some time now (though probably unbeknownst to him, and myself for that matter) for the understanding I came to last night. So long, well not really long but it felt long, has my wisdom been stuck where I would come back to a kind of truth, the same truth. Each time would be a little bit different, a different lesson perhaps, but the wisdom was still the same. I am truly honored that such a thread has been able to come about.

    For the first time since I have started smoking, I feel ready to quit, even though I've tried countless times. I dunno, metaphors.
     
  17. #117 thoughtware, Jan 24, 2013
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    @esseff, thanks for your words.

    I ended the last post with something worth repeating: "Only Perfect Consciousness (PC) understands the specific lies that have infected your PRESENT - so that your PRESENT may be redeemed."

    Why does our present need to be redeemed? What is the "present", anyway?

    The present is almost impossible to even see because we are conditioned to IGNORE the present altogether. Instead we reflect on our PAST that we might create our FUTURE. Thus we end up living in both the past and future; we wind up living in areas of our lives that don't even exist. Ultimately, when you live in "non-existance", you BECOME non-existant. This is why everything in this reality dies.

    I have said that the Present is the only part of our existance that is real. Yet, the present appears so fleeting, how can we even NOTICE it, let alone live in it?

    Before we can answer these questions - we should probably talk a little about "time". What is time? There isn't even an answer to that question. To prove it - try to define it. Sounds easy, but it will drive you crazy. ;)

    No one can define time because it doesn't actually exist. Instead it only APPEARS to exist, because the Past can be remembered and the Future eventually enters our present. Yet the purpose of time is to HIDE the present. Time makes the present seem unreal - and makes the past and future seem real. It is because of TIME that we live in the UNREAL dimensions. If you want to think of this another way, try this: Time is "manifested" by the mass consciousness (MC) because of the belief that the PAST and FUTURE are real. Time supports the belief in the past/future - and the past/future supports the belief in time. The "LOCK" on the prison, so to speak.

    If time is a lie, not real - then what is real? What is the truth? The truth is that ETERNITY is real. Eternity is the opposite of time. Eternity is the truth, time is the lie.

    So, the best way to think of our reality is like this: Eternity is "paused" or frozen, and our entire reality is but one continual instant. Think of this "eternal instant" as the Present. This is why only the present is real.

    When we assemble the puzzle pieces, an interesting picture comes together. We see that if mankind can start living in the "real" present, it means they would stop living in the "unreal" past/future. If mankind stops living in these "unreal" dimensions, mankind would stop becoming unreal. Instead, mankind would become more and more real - forever. Ultimately, we see our ascension is the exact opposite of the "bottomless pit".

    In the King of Mercy story, I explained that PC entered the "bottomless pit" (prision of time/past/future) by inhabiting a body (Jesus). Jesus allowed himself to be murdered so that PC could be released from his body and poured out INTO THE PRESENT. Remember, PC is eternal and can not die (that's rediculous), so even though the FLESH died, PC continued to live in the present (albeit without a body!). :smoking:

    Sound odd? Well, consider that our PRESENT is eternal, just paused. Since PC only exists in eternity, it is perfectly reasonable that PC can exist in our PRESENT, because our PRESENT is eternity paused. The problem was, no one could even see the present, let alone a bodiless consciousness ABOVE the consciousness of every living organism in reality.

    Sounds like quite the problem. And we'll continue right here next time.

    Growing peace to you.
     
  18. #118 esseff, Jan 24, 2013
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    The time thing is interesting. The more present we are the less we notice it, but also, from a physical perspective, the slower we actually age.

    So, the feeling one gets of sitting still in the present for what turns out to be several hours, but doesn't seem as if anything like that amount of clock time has past, in reality, consciously, experientially, it hasn't, so the body ages a bit less. Time is relative. We've known this for quite some time.

    Letting go of the egoic mind which holds onto the past, creates the future, isn't easy to do in every day life. But it is possible, and is helped or maybe only really can be, IDK, by combining the intention to do so with some kind of meditation practice. By consciously learning to experience presence, knowing it intimately, and then eventually experiencing it in the outer world more and more frequently, so that as one experiences life, the past not only doesn't impact the present as it once did, but it isn't being created in the same way anymore.

    Warning - controversial theory alert!

    As we change our frequency, we raise our consciousness and literally shift into a new version of ourselves. As we are no longer the same person we were, we are no longer part of the same timeline, which means we no longer have the same past as that belonged to our previous self.

    As far as the future is concerned, as the present becomes more and more real, the idea or need to project ourself into it becomes less and less necessary. This can only happen when the ego, which cannot remain as it is in true presence, no longer feels the need to control and create what will happen in the so-called future. The future will now take care of itself.

    Again, this is not easy to achieve while living normal working lives, and some/much of that 'normal' life would naturally change so much as a result, that those who feel able to do this often take themselves off, live by themselves, or join communities that are outside the world as it were. For those who remain in the same life, finding perfect presence may not be possible.
     
  19. #119 thoughtware, Jan 26, 2013
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    ^^

    Thank you!! Please PLEASE share more! Your concept about retaining a DIFFERENT past is fascinating - and actually confirms a few things for me. Also you are right on target about how "normal" life would have to change. YES. Remember - this is the PEACE I have been talking about in Other Stuff. In order for you to remain in the present - you can NOT be thinking (or WORRYING!) about the future. The ONLY way to do this - is when your present is full of PEACE and SECURITY. This is why the people of God, (read: The people connected to PC) have the WISDOM needed to CREATE PEACE. And why their realities begin to reflect peace outward. (Truth demands peace).

    Now, let us continue.

    When we left off we saw that Perfect Consciousness was "released" into complete and utter darkness (our mass consciousness, MC). Somehow a light was turned on so that PC could be perceived from within MC. But, before we can understand how "light" can be created from nothing ("complete and utter darkness") - let's look a bit more closely at the "darkness of MC" itself. You will need to understand that darkness means "nothing" - and "nothing" means a lie MASQUERADING as a truth. This is exactly what I mean by "complete and utter darkness".

    The definition of "mass consciousness" or MC is the aggregated "consciousness/awarness/wisdom" gathered into it by the 5 senses of mankind. This means that all "wisdom" has a sensory IMAGE attached to it. Here is a glimpse at darkness: to control the wisdom of mankind, simply control the images. Thus, a wisdom that is "controled" - would NEVER know the truth outside the wisdom GIVEN it. This is eternal DARKNESS. This is "hell" and "death". This is what living INSIDE a lie-based realtiy means.

    Here's an interesting example. Let's say PC is the essence of PURE LOVE. ;) I'm sure any person, of any religious or non-religious persuasion would agree that pure love would be very desirable. If love is so desirable, how could mankind be blind to it? Because of images. Actually, because of one image in particular... an attractive female.

    If I were to show an attractive female to men - they would desire to be with her, this is why she is attractive to him. And, all woman would also desire to be like her - for they all desire to be attractive. It is a single image, that creates desire for both men and women. Thus we see and endless loop. Mankind desires an IMAGE - so mankind tries to BECOME an image. Mass consciousness creates a reality that is always making itself into more and more of a lifeless image. This is why mass consciousness is out of control - it is producing the OPPOSITE of growth. The REVERSE of LIFE.

    Thus, life for men becomes how do I become the kind of image that will get for me the most attractive women. Money, power and fame grow increasingly extreme as the attractive women always demand more. Woman become more and more extreme looking - because men always want the woman to be more attractive to them. I made up a word to describe the condition suffered by our reality: PLASTIMOSIS. You can probably infer what I mean. :cool:

    Because mankind believes FULFILLMENT comes by attaning an image - he can always justify his current state of "unfulfillment". He simply doesn't have the right images in his life. He may resign to live with out them - yet he will live in suffering of regret. Or, he may attempt to gain them - yet he will live in suffering of unsatisfaction. Either way, mankind suffers because it desires images - yet justifies it as "normal and right" according to the "mass consciousness". This means the people in prision never realize they are even in prison.

    This is the FIRST veil of blindness. There is also a second.

    Since MC is the AGGREGATE of mankind's individual consciousness, it is always an "infinitely" greater consciousness than mankinds. But it is NOT infinite because it has no Truth in it. Here you can see that "infinity" is HIDDEN within the finite as eternity is HIDDEN within the present. More on this later - but for now we see that if mankind's wisdom could grow for eternity - the power of the consciousness that governs him would also grow and remain greater for infinity. We know that mankind is not infinite - thus, the consciousness that covers mankind is not infinite. While it has potential to GROW infinitely - it can not LIVE infinitely, (eternity needs growth AND life.)

    But what of the second veil? How does it arise?

    It is created by the MANNER in which "wisdom" is fed into the mass consciousness. It arises because man demands "free will" - thus continually feeds its conflicting "truths" into mass consciousness - creating a lie. A lie presenting itself as REAL to the individual is the second veil. Believing in lies is the "tomb" of your spirit. Now maybe you can understand how much the truth actually DOES set you free! ;)

    Each man's wisdom is gathered through his five senses - and then fed into MC of all mankind. Wisdom gathered this way is not wisdom at all, but rather confusion of the highest order. Oppression comes as the "mass conciousness" tries to MINIMIZE this confusion so that is can operate consistantly. But, since man will NOT let go of its free will, he REFUSES to even consider living consistantly (or harmoniously) with others. MC has no other option - It can only minimize conflict by destroying those who feed it conflict. If you heard a multitude of conflicting things in your mind all the time it would be the height of craziness. Mass consciousness always desires to quiet the voices in its head. This is why mass consciousness will become more and more oppressive - forever.

    Understand since mankind's wisdom is based on its senses - it continuess to define its desires by creating IMAGES that fulfill the SENSES. To do this, it uses the images it SEES to create the images it WANTS. Reality is continually degrading as the present is always creating new images to desire based on those already "created" in the present - like an endless loop. It is a reality that is falling downward into a bottomless pit of lifelessness.

    The second veil blinds us to the fact that we corrupt our reality because we desire images.

    We will soon see how some of us will be able to break through this second veil - and change our realities. This is our awakening - and our power. We will do this by seeing Truth - and DESIRING to walking in it. We will live by a desire for Truth, rather than a desire for images. We will live by FAITH and not by sight. As we do, we will infect mass consciousness with the truths that bring harmony. These truths will be sufficent to destroy the first veil - and restore truth to the mass consciousness.

    More later. Also, any of you that already feel a connection to PC/Truth/God, please share what you are learning. If you have NOT learned it from a book, a religion or a man - we would be very interested in hearing it. :)

    Start threads and discuss what you are learning with others. This is how the power in us will grow.
     

  20. As we move through our lives we alter our state of conciousness so as to experience things differently. we already exist in all possibilities, as all possibilities, and instead of changing ourselves from this to that, we simply change our freuquency into what best reflects who we are or wish to be. This is effectively moving us into the version of us that already exists in this version of reality. multi-dimensional and present within the same space.

    who we feel we are not only changes how we experience, but changes the world in exactly the same way. so as we alter frequency, we encounter all other versions of everyone else at that frequenc=y there. it is not the same world as the one when we did that thing back then. The one who did that thing back then does not resonate at the frequency of the one who experiences this reality now, so that frequency you's past no longer connects to who you are.

    You may think you have a memory of that past event still with you, but it is being generated in the present to conform to what you think you remember about what happened. The facts, the events, are easier to recal, but the feelings that were being generated are not so.

    Doesn't matter, what matters is that they are of a different time, and while it will have been necessary to review many of them before real change was posiible, they always have another purpose than the one you saw them as having.

    There is always more going on in reality, and we can only ever be aware of one timeline at a time usually. Transition points are always interesting, and when they get conscious, OK.

    Anyway, i hope that explains some things.
     

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