Newbie needs help planning 2 x 2 grow

Discussion in 'First Time Marijuana Growers' started by Pine_Noodle, Nov 16, 2020.

  1. Hello All!

    I am in amidst of planning my first 2x2 and have a few questions (major planning hurdles) I was hoping to get some experienced opinions on.

    First and biggest question is how to efficiently approach a 2x2 situation using regular (non-feminized) seeds?

    I am planning to use a 2x2x5 tent with a Mars Hydro TS1000 light (150w LED). Beyond that I am not yet settled on method (SOG, SCROG, etc.) or medium (soil, coco, etc.). Both of which I am willing to tailor to suit my seed situation.

    Seed situation is this; I have 10 indica leaning Hybrid OG seeds that are non-feminized. So while I would love to to SCROG with a single plant in the 2x2 I'm not sure how I should approach this given my seed situation?

    A few thoughts: with SCROG it seems necessary to start with female plants seeing as they will be trained/intertwined with the screen and will be a pain to weed out possible males. Plus there's no telling how many of my seeds will be male. So what I'm kind of thinking, I maybe should shoot for doing more plants than ideal, perhaps in soil pots, and doing some simply topping and minor low-stress training in each pot using thread to pull the branches down to the pot. So for example, I'll start with 5 seeds in my 2x2, growing them in 2-4 liter containers until they start to sex, at which point I'll pull the males and put the girls in 1-2 gallon pots and just roll with how ever many females I have, which could be 1-5. In the event I get I suppose I'd consider just keep 2, or 1 and put it in a 3-5 gallon pot. Given the large number of plants I would perhaps start going 12/12 after 4 weeks.

    My goal here is not necessarily top yield but am simply hoping to get 2 oz or quality smoke ( more than enough for my yearly personal use) with not too much fuss, and in as little time as possible (i.e I want to do this in one grow period, won't be dealing with mother plant and clones this time around.

    So anyhow, I welcome you comments, questions, advice.

    Cheers!
     
  2. A 2x2 in my opinion is way too small for sexing and growing as many as 3-5 plants. I have a 2.5x2.5x5 tent and find that 2 plants is really my max. Any more than 2 and humidity goes up and tent is crowded.
    As far as a light look at spider farmer or budget led grow lights both are great for a small space and use samsung leds.
    For soil I use fox farm ocean forest and gaia green 2-8-4 for nutes. Can add worm castings as well.
    For training I use low stress training, scrog and a little defoliation.

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  3. 2 in 3gal pots or one big plant in 5gal would suffice a 2x2, i dont know much about leds so cant speak on your light of choice, but there should be no problem pulling at least 2zips in a 2x2 my friend!

    As far as weeding out males, it takes 8 or more weeks for plants to show sex in veg strain dependent, will get pretty cramped just in veg
     
  4. One plant .... you really dont have the room to be screwing around with regular seeds .
    And if you did you should grow a mother plant and clone .
    2x2 foot tent equals 4 square foot of grow space
    I think you would yield more with one larger plants instead of several small ones ..
     
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  5. Thanks for the feedback!

    Starting to think that maybe I should be looking at a 3x3, if anything to give a noob like myself a bit more room to work, especially given the fact that I'm dealing with non-feminized seeds. Only issue with going 3x3 is that is I might not have enough money in the budget to stick with an LED if I go that route.

    I've actually been going back and forth between the spider farmersf1000 and the mars hydro ts1000, both look good and seem to get good reviews. So yeah your vote for the Spider Farmer will be considered for sure. Like I Said though, perhaps the SF-1000 would not be powerful enough for the 3x3.

    So if I do go 2x2, and only go with 1 female, how would you guys approach my seed situation? Would you dare start by planting 3-4, veg them 4 weeks in the 2x2, start 12/12 and hope to figure out sex before it gets too crowded?
     
  6. What is the deal with you not wanting to use feminized seeds ?
    I normally don't use them but i have a mother plant to clone off of .
    If i was in your situation i would consider feminizes seeds .
     
  7. Believe me, I would love to have feminized seeds. Problem is that I live in a country where it is not easy to get such things. So kind of have to deal with what I was able to get, which fortunately enough is atleast a good strain, Larry Walker OG. Because without this I'd be having to use bag seeds which is certainly not ideal.
     
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  8. I understand ,, Really you need a place/space to develop female plants .
    I put 2 to 3 sativa plants in a 4x8x7.5 grow tent .
    good luck
     

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  9. The light you have is a good one for the money for sure tho.


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  10. Question, what is your typical humidity outside of your tent?
     
  11. Outside for me is around 40’s. Inside drops to 30’s. [​IMG]


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  12. Right now 45ish. I keep the windows open in the fall and spring so it averages in the mid 60s then. That's my main reason for the humidity being so high. Either way when I put 4 full plants in my little tent it goes up higher than I like. And I do use a dehumidifier when I need to.

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  13. 2x2, 1 plant, veg for 6 weeks, top it after 6 nodes and it should fill up the tent all on its own with no other training.

    good luck!
     
  14. Here is 1 green crack fem in a 2.5x2.5x5 . 3gal pot. 130w led light. One plant can fill a small tent easily.

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  15. Here's a thought to bounce off you guys. Since I have not yet purchased my tent.

    What if I went with a 3x3 tent in order to give myself more room for sexing, but using my 150w light meant for 2x2, just cut it back to one plant after determining sex? In other words I'd start with say 5 seedlings in the 3x3, start 12/12 a bit early, perhaps 5 weeks, and then once I determine the sex, simply leave 1 plant in the 3x3 with the 150w LED?

    Just a reminder, I'm not going for max effort here. I simply want to grow 2oz to get me through the rest of the year since its been hard to find in these corona times. Later down the line, I could see myself wanting to get more efficient/maximize buds and all that, but for now, just want to keep it simple.
     
  16. You could flower 2 in that space with that light no problem. Sounds like a solid plan

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  17. beans cost money, get fem seeds, plant 1, and be done with it.

    you say you want to keep it simple but yet you want to grow reg seeds...
     
  18. Because some people like surprises.
     
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  19. in a 2x2 id veg 4 plants till sex, pull the males out. Clone em and grow the better cut the next time.
     

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